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My old R9 280x used to overheat when I put a fan in the back of the case as exhaust. Have you tried removing your rear exhaust fan?

This is most likely not the problem, but it's worth trying.

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15 hours ago, III-Argon-III said:

My old R9 280x used to overheat when I put a fan in the back of the case as exhaust. Have you tried removing your rear exhaust fan?

This is most likely not the problem, but it's worth trying.

It's been there since but what effect does it have actually? There's not good explanation why it would make a difference. it just removes hot air from the case.

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  • 3 weeks later...

So after changing the thermal paste, cleaned up the heatskin, and the whole gpu, my msi r9 390 still heats up to 94 under full load over 15 minutes.

 

It's most likely a case problem then, what should I do? I have 140mm and a 120mm intake fans in the front and 1 120mm exhaust in the back.

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Welcome to R9 290/390 series :(

 

I had the same, Gigabyte Windforce x3 cooling, 92*c

ADDING Fans will only reduce it by 2-4*c.... When THIS hot.

Hardly what YOU want, right... You want sub 80-85*c not almost 90*c.

 

Bought a kraken G10 and used that to reduce core temps to mid 60's and the included fan kept my vrms under 100*c but getting close (rated for 125*c) so I bought the Gelid VRM kit and it reduced VRM to the 80-85*c mark.

 

If you have one of "THOSE" cards that naturally gets hotter than others of the same model, then Watercool it or Sell/Replace it if you don't want to spend money.

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17 hours ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Welcome to R9 290/390 series :(

 

I had the same, Gigabyte Windforce x3 cooling, 92*c

ADDING Fans will only reduce it by 2-4*c.... When THIS hot.

Hardly what YOU want, right... You want sub 80-85*c not almost 90*c.

 

Bought a kraken G10 and used that to reduce core temps to mid 60's and the included fan kept my vrms under 100*c but getting close (rated for 125*c) so I bought the Gelid VRM kit and it reduced VRM to the 80-85*c mark.

 

If you have one of "THOSE" cards that naturally gets hotter than others of the same model, then Watercool it or Sell/Replace it if you don't want to spend money.

Aight, thanks for the reply. 

I'll start saving money for a new gpu.

 

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Does it get so hot when you first got it? R9 390Xs has always been a hot card. You might want to replace the cooler with one of these https://www.arctic.ac/worldwide_en/products/cooling/vga.html (3 fan ones seems better for such a hot card) if you couldnt fix it.

 

Does it use a open cooler? I have seen some coolers do badly because their heat pipes cracked and leaked whatever's liquid's inside out.

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Does it get so hot when you first got it? R9 390Xs has always been a hot card. You might want to replace the cooler with one of these https://www.arctic.ac/worldwide_en/products/cooling/vga.html (3 fan ones seems better for such a hot card) if you couldnt fix it.

 

Does it use a open cooler? I have seen some coolers do badly because their heat pipes cracked and leaked whatever's liquid's inside out.

Yes, it's always been hawt.

Not sure what you mean by an open cooler, I have no specific cooler for the card. Just case fans + gpu fans.

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1 minute ago, supRac said:

Yes, it's always been hawt.

Not sure what you mean by an open cooler, I have no specific cooler for the card. Just case fans + gpu fans.

heard of blower cooler? That's what most reference cards use. Open air coolers are the typical two fan, 3 fan ones (though there are single fan open air coolers as well)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

heard of blower cooler? That's what most reference cards use. Open air coolers are the typical two fan, 3 fan ones (though there are single fan open air coolers as well)

It has 2 fans.

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/R9-390-GAMING-8G.html

It blows hot air out from the heatsink. Case fans turn on at 65*c

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Just now, supRac said:

It has 2 fans.

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/R9-390-GAMING-8G.html

It blows hot air out from the heatsink. Case fans turn on at 65*c

Set a custom fan curve, like mine

oMCBS8z.png

 

If that's not good enough you can push everything to the left so the card spin the fans even faster

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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29 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Set a custom fan curve, like mine

oMCBS8z.png

 

If that's not good enough you can push everything to the left so the card spin the fans even faster

I have a custom fan curve, I'll try yours. You can check previous answers and posts for more information about mine.

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1 minute ago, supRac said:

I have a custom fan curve, I'll try yours. You can check previous answers and posts for more information about mine.

Wow yours are even more aggressive than mine. So the card still gets so hot when the fans are 100% and sound like jet engines?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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As SkilledRebuilds said, the G10 is a really good way of forcing down the temperatures of your GPU. I got myself an MSI GTX 1070 Aero (with a blower style fan). But after using it for about a month and having high temperatures of 87c (which is normal), i decided to go get myself a NZXT Kraken G10 bracket. With this bracket, you can simply buy an AIO (all in one liquid cooler). I can proudly say, that my GPU wont reach higher temps than 50 degrees celsius (with modest overclocking). 

IMG_20171220_000234.jpg

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On 18.12.2017 at 10:55 AM, Jurrunio said:

Wow yours are even more aggressive than mine. So the card still gets so hot when the fans are 100% and sound like jet engines?

I'll test it now, and I barely used 100% fans speed as I've heard they damage your fans.

 

14 hours ago, Adrosil said:

As SkilledRebuilds said, the G10 is a really good way of forcing down the temperatures of your GPU. I got myself an MSI GTX 1070 Aero (with a blower style fan). But after using it for about a month and having high temperatures of 87c (which is normal), i decided to go get myself a NZXT Kraken G10 bracket. With this bracket, you can simply buy an AIO (all in one liquid cooler). I can proudly say, that my GPU wont reach higher temps than 50 degrees celsius (with modest overclocking). 

IMG_20171220_000234.jpg

That's impressive! What's the cost on that?

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26 minutes ago, supRac said:

I'll test it now, and I barely used 100% fans speed as I've heard they damage your fans.

Damaging the fans are better than having an overheating core. In extreme cases you can use some 120mm case fans to replace the cooler fan by attaching them to the heatsink with the shroud removed

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 hours ago, supRac said:

I'll test it now, and I barely used 100% fans speed as I've heard they damage your fans.

 

That's impressive! What's the cost on that?

Some quick googles:

The Kraken G10 Bracket is about 40 Euros

The Nzxt Kraken x41 AIO is about 120 Euros (most likely succeeded by the Kraken x42 - the one on my CPU, which looks a lot cooler if you ask me)

 

So all in all, about 160€ total. 

 

Keep in mind that half of the fun is having an awsome build which you can say you built yourself, and by that i mean customizing. However, maybe it would be a better decision (in your case) to buy another GPU - as far as i can see, the R9 390 performs only about 50% compared to a GTX 1070 (which is what i put my G10 bracket on). 

 

If you decide to get another GPU, i'd recommend buying an open fan version (like the one you are using now). The blower style GPU's (where the GPU throws the hot air out the back of the case) tend to get a lot hotter, and since you are complaining about temperatures, i would buy a open air version if i could. 

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They get hot, it's fine. They're designed to be able to handle the heat. Only if it's 'overheating' and shutting down/artifacting should you worry.

 

I think you should be able to move the temp limit down though. By your last screenshot it looks like you've got the power limit and temp limit linked together. Try clicking the little 'link' icon to the left (it's red in your screenshot and looks like a diagonal '8'), and I think you'll be able to move them independently? 

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