AMD CPUs

[BDev]

Hey guys! I am sorry for this dumb question, but i really need help about AMD's CPUs. I do know Intel CPUs very well, but from what i've seen, everything AMD has is basically: Athlon, A-Series, Fx and Ryzen.

 

So from what i know, Athlon is old, A-Series is a "decent", Fx isn't recommended (Ppl often say it's worthless) so my only option would be Ryzen. I have to be missing something... There must be something good for gaming these days that ain't Ryzen...

[MetallicArcherfish]

its not thats its bad for gaming, its just that their are better options from intel usally 

wording matters.

[Aellis707]

1 minute ago, BDev said:

Hey guys! I am sorry for this dumb question, but i really need help about AMD's CPUs. I do know Intel CPUs very well, but from what i've seen, everything AMD has is basically: Athlon, A-Series, Fx and Ryzen.

 

So from what i know, Athlon is old, A-Series is a "decent", Fx isn't recommended (Ppl often say it's worthless) so my only option would be Ryzen. I have to be missing something... There must be something good for gaming these days that ain't Ryzen...

In all honesty i have a AMD fx 6300 series and have her overclocked at 4.3 GHz it honestly budget and knowing the limits of what your CPU can do. In my opinion anything more than 4 cores is decent.

[aisle9]

14 minutes ago, BDev said:

Hey guys! I am sorry for this dumb question, but i really need help about AMD's CPUs. I do know Intel CPUs very well, but from what i've seen, everything AMD has is basically: Athlon, A-Series, Fx and Ryzen.

 

So from what i know, Athlon is old, A-Series is a "decent", Fx isn't recommended (Ppl often say it's worthless) so my only option would be Ryzen. I have to be missing something... There must be something good for gaming these days that ain't Ryzen...

These days, the Athlons tend to be A-series processors with the iGPU stripped out. The 860K in particular used to be an outstanding value CPU, but its time has passed. The current Athlon, the 950, is pretty poor value compared to the Ryzen 3 or Pentium G4560.

 

A-series APUs are solid HTPC or basic general use processors. The integrated graphics are better than Intel's equivalent, but still not all that useful for gaming outside of very basic games, usually at 720p.

 

FX CPUs are actually ok for the price now that their price has tanked. The thought of paying $900 for an FX 9590 is hilarious, and it was even back when it was released, but with AM3+ motherboards all over the place and CPUs like the FX 8320 and FX 8350 routinely falling below the triple-digit threshold at Newegg, MC and Fry's, they're actually not a terrible choice for a budget gaming build these days. Also worth noting: the FX 8350 comes with a Wraith cooler, which can be resold for $30-40 after the fact. I'm to the point of actually liking the FX 8000 series as sweet spot chips for a little bit of lightweight everything. The four and six-core FX chips are too weak to be useful given their TDP, and the FX 9590 is only useful as a novelty item.

 

Ryzen is AMD's newest CPU family, and from a pure value point of view, it's hard to beat. Every CPU is overclockable, whether it's got an X in the SKU or not, motherboards are affordable, and Ryzen chips are in stock everywhere. The downside to Ryzen is that you won't get the same pure gaming power that you would with an 8700K and RAM is still a touchy subject, but considering that you can get a brand new R5 1600 with an overclockable stock cooler and a B350 board together for under $300, the value prop is definitely there.

[GitGud]

FX series arent so bad, just use them for budget builds, not with systems that have high end GPU's

[Tom Cat]

1 hour ago, GitGud said:

FX series arent so bad, just use them for budget builds, not with systems that have high end GPU's

The fx series was trash compared to Ryzen 

[Phentos]

For 60hz gaming in 2017 and on, Ryzen CPUs are honestly the best value. Any other AMD CPU that isn't a Ryzen is not recommended except for extreme low budget systems (and Pentiums are still better for this).

 

For 120hz+ gaming an overclocked Ryzen CPU can get the job done, but any Intel 8th gen CPU will outperform them at sub-4K resolutions.  

[GitGud]

55 minutes ago, Douglas The Duck said:

The fx series was trash compared to Ryzen 

So is Sandy Bridge compared to Coffee Lake...

 

aka dont be stupid and dont compare half a decade old architecture to modern one.

[Tom Cat]

8 minutes ago, GitGud said:

So is Sandy Bridge compared to Coffee Lake...

 

aka dont be stupid and dont compare half a decade old architecture to modern one.

I'm not being stupid, technically it's a fact.

[Princess Luna]

6 minutes ago, GitGud said:

So is Sandy Bridge compared to Coffee Lake...

 

aka dont be stupid and dont compare half a decade old architecture to modern one.

Actually no, sandy bridge still is relevant unlike FX, the i7 2600k can be paired with a 1080 any day specially for 1440p and 4k gaming.

 

OP What is the point to want an AMD processor and complain about ryzen? If you think Ryzen is not up to the task there's always Intel Coffee Lake waiting on the next corner, it just costs more.

[GitGud]

Just now, Douglas The Duck said:

I'm not being stupid, technically it's a fact.

And FX series still is solid budget option which also is a fact and blow Pentium, i3's away in work flow evironments outside gaming.

[GitGud]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Actually no, sandy bridge still is relevant unlike FX, the i7 2600k can be paired with a 1080 any day specially for 1440p and 4k gaming.

 

OP What is the point to want an AMD processor and complain about ryzen? If you think Ryzen is not up to the task there's always Intel Coffee Lake waiting on the next corner, it just costs more.

You can pair anything with 1080 Ti for 4K gaming, even G4560 is neck in neck with i7 in majority of games in 4K...

[Tom Cat]

1 minute ago, GitGud said:

And FX series still is solid budget option which also is a fact and blow Pentium, i3's away in work flow evironments outside gaming.

Are you kidding me? A 7th gen Pentium would kill the lower end FX chips.

[GitGud]

2 minutes ago, Douglas The Duck said:

Are you kidding me? A 7th gen Pentium would kill the lower end FX chips.

It doesnt kill FX 6300 tho, beats it by couple of fps in single core bias games yes, but doesnt kill it. In Witcher 3 FX 6300 for example rules it.

[Tom Cat]

1 minute ago, GitGud said:

It doesnt kill FX 6300 tho, beats it by couple of fps in single core bias games yes, but doesnt kill it. In Witcher 3 FX 6300 for example rules it.

Wow ok, one game big deal. What about the other thousands of games. Stop being a fanboy. A Pentium or Ryzen 3 is a much better option. 

[NelizMastr]

11 hours ago, Aellis707 said:

In all honesty i have a AMD fx 6300 series and have her overclocked at 4.3 GHz it honestly budget and knowing the limits of what your CPU can do. In my opinion anything more than 4 cores is decent.

A FX6300 is not really a 6-core though. It's more like a triple core in practice.

 

4 minutes ago, GitGud said:

It doesnt kill FX 6300 tho, beats it by couple of fps in single core bias games yes, but doesnt kill it. In Witcher 3 FX 6300 for example rules it.

While costing more than a pentium and requiring a lot more cooling and power draw. Yeah, it rules.

[aisle9]

Well this thread was predictable. 

 

Look, guys, once you get below a certain price point, an 8-core CPU is an 8-core CPU. FX-8350 chips in particular are really solid values of you get a cheap motherboard with them and take the lower cost of DDR3 into account. As long as you're aware of the performance limitations and realistic about what you can do with one, a higher end FX SKU is a solid budget option if you find an 8350 and a board for around $100.

[BDev]

On 17/11/2017 at 1:13 PM, Princess Cadence said:

OP What is the point to want an AMD processor and complain about ryzen? If you think Ryzen is not up to the task there's always Intel Coffee Lake waiting on the next corner, it just costs more.

I never said i wanted an AMD CPU. I just said i wanted to know the difference between those 3 CPUs, and i never said Ryzen is bad or anything (At least i didn't want to), i wanted to know if i was missing another series of CPUs made by AMD that was suitable for gaming these days that wasn't a Ryzen.