Posted November 15, 2017 i have a couple gpus on hand now, which should i choose ASUS RX 580 4GB Dual OC GTX 1060 6GB (MSI/Galax/Palit) or ASUS and Powercolor R9 280X crossfire? mobo is gigabyte z77 (3 pcie x 16 physical) cpu is i5 2400 12gb ram psu is cm silent pro gold 1200w resolution is 1080p although i may bump up to 1440p downscale if cpu is bottlenecking the gpu games played is gta v (redux mod)(super taxing), f1 2017, project cars 2, forza 6 apex and xplane 10 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 Don't go crossfire. 1060 6GB and RX 580 4GB, depends on the price. I would actually aim for the RX 580 8GB but again, price... If prices are the same for the RX 580 4GB and the 1060 6GB and the 1060 6GB has a decent cooler, get the 1060 6GB. If there's an RX 580 8GB available for the same price as a 1060 6GB, get that. If you aren't sure, post prices and what card it exactly is. If you want my attention, quote meh! D: or just stick an @samcool55 in your post :3 Spying on everyone to fight against terrorism is like shooting a mosquito with a cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 Get the GTX 1060, the performance matches the RX 580 but with a lower CPU overhead (you'll experience less bottlenecking). Do not consider Crossfire, that has issues. Go with the RX 580 if you plan to upgrade the CPU (which would be a great idea, something like i7 2600K). M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700 - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 Author 2 minutes ago, 191x7 said: Get the GTX 1060, the performance matches the RX 580 but with a lower CPU overhead (you'll experience less bottlenecking). Do not consider Crossfire, that has issues. Go with the RX 580 if you plan to upgrade the CPU (which would be a great idea, something like i7 2600K). 3 minutes ago, samcool55 said: Don't go crossfire. 1060 6GB and RX 580 4GB, depends on the price. I would actually aim for the RX 580 8GB but again, price... If prices are the same for the RX 580 4GB and the 1060 6GB and the 1060 6GB has a decent cooler, get the 1060 6GB. If there's an RX 580 8GB available for the same price as a 1060 6GB, get that. If you aren't sure, post prices and what card it exactly is. guys i have all the graphic cards on hand now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, Javier Ewe said: guys i have all the parts on hand now Oh, test all 1060 6GB's and see which one boosts the most and get that one If you want my attention, quote meh! D: or just stick an @samcool55 in your post :3 Spying on everyone to fight against terrorism is like shooting a mosquito with a cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 Author Just now, samcool55 said: Oh, test all 1060 6GB's and see which one boosts the most and get that one ok so it will perform better than the r9 280x in crossfire? i have all the cards just lying around in my house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 Run some benchmarks, play some games and see which one performs best. I think its the the best way to determine which one should you use. Main Rig - AMD Ryzen 1800X @ 3.9 - NZXT Kraken X62 - MSI X370 SLI PLUS - G.Skill TRIDENT Z RGB 16GB 2667MHz - 2 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX1080 WindForce OC - NZXT S340 (Purple-White) - OCZ 120GB, Seagate 1TB - Corsair RM750i 80+ Gold - SAMSUNG S24D590 24", HP L1950g - Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum - Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum - Creative Cambridge Sound Works + two random Philips speakers, Logitech G430 headset - Win 10 Pro x64 Retro Gaming PC - ASUS T3 Server - HP ProLiant DL380 G6(Currently assembling it) - 2 x Intel Xeon E5520 2.26GHz 8MB Quad Core Processor NAS - Zyxel NSA320S 2 x Seagate Constellation ES 2TB(RAID1) - QNAP TS-212 1 x 500GB -=Logitech FanBoiiiiiiii=- I love NZXT as well <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Javier Ewe said: ok so it will perform better than the r9 280x in crossfire? i have all the cards just lying around in my house If you have them laying around why do you ask all those silly questions instead of using this time to make the necessary tests? (no hate) Main Rig - AMD Ryzen 1800X @ 3.9 - NZXT Kraken X62 - MSI X370 SLI PLUS - G.Skill TRIDENT Z RGB 16GB 2667MHz - 2 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX1080 WindForce OC - NZXT S340 (Purple-White) - OCZ 120GB, Seagate 1TB - Corsair RM750i 80+ Gold - SAMSUNG S24D590 24", HP L1950g - Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum - Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum - Creative Cambridge Sound Works + two random Philips speakers, Logitech G430 headset - Win 10 Pro x64 Retro Gaming PC - ASUS T3 Server - HP ProLiant DL380 G6(Currently assembling it) - 2 x Intel Xeon E5520 2.26GHz 8MB Quad Core Processor NAS - Zyxel NSA320S 2 x Seagate Constellation ES 2TB(RAID1) - QNAP TS-212 1 x 500GB -=Logitech FanBoiiiiiiii=- I love NZXT as well <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 my expirience: Crossfire is shit, great in games that support, but utterly useless imho so that leaves 280x off the table. Rx580 > performs close with the 1060, 4gb version slightly less than a 1060-6gb, the 8gb version slightly better 1060 > 6gb version, overclocks nice, stable never had a stability/driver issue like with the amd stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 Author 1 minute ago, Marine_Boy said: If you have them laying around why do you ask all those silly questions instead of using this time to make the necessary tests? (no hate) hahha because i have an exam tmr so i dont want to mess about installing and reinstalling drivers and such so i just thought someone on the forum would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, Javier Ewe said: hahha because i have an exam tmr so i dont want to mess about installing and reinstalling drivers and such so i just thought someone on the forum would know. Umm, if you have all those cards just "hanging around" what about selling them and getting something like a 1080? Or even a 1080Ti. 1060's should sell for at LEAST 200 bucks, same for that rx 580, gives you at least 800 bucks which should be enough for a 1080ti. edit: and sell that CPU, mobo and ram as well and get something like an r5 1600 with a 1080 or whatever. That would be a damn good gaming system If you want my attention, quote meh! D: or just stick an @samcool55 in your post :3 Spying on everyone to fight against terrorism is like shooting a mosquito with a cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, Javier Ewe said: hahha because i have an exam tmr so i dont want to mess about installing and reinstalling drivers and such so i just thought someone on the forum would know. Maybe yes, maybe no There's nothing better that the real life performance test and that I would encourage you to do If not today/tomorrow then during the weekend maybe Main Rig - AMD Ryzen 1800X @ 3.9 - NZXT Kraken X62 - MSI X370 SLI PLUS - G.Skill TRIDENT Z RGB 16GB 2667MHz - 2 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX1080 WindForce OC - NZXT S340 (Purple-White) - OCZ 120GB, Seagate 1TB - Corsair RM750i 80+ Gold - SAMSUNG S24D590 24", HP L1950g - Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum - Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum - Creative Cambridge Sound Works + two random Philips speakers, Logitech G430 headset - Win 10 Pro x64 Retro Gaming PC - ASUS T3 Server - HP ProLiant DL380 G6(Currently assembling it) - 2 x Intel Xeon E5520 2.26GHz 8MB Quad Core Processor NAS - Zyxel NSA320S 2 x Seagate Constellation ES 2TB(RAID1) - QNAP TS-212 1 x 500GB -=Logitech FanBoiiiiiiii=- I love NZXT as well <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, samcool55 said: Umm, if you have all those cards just "hanging around" what about selling them and getting something like a 1080? Or even a 1080Ti. 1060's should sell for at LEAST 200 bucks, same for that rx 580, gives you at least 800 bucks which should be enough for a 1080ti. THAT! Main Rig - AMD Ryzen 1800X @ 3.9 - NZXT Kraken X62 - MSI X370 SLI PLUS - G.Skill TRIDENT Z RGB 16GB 2667MHz - 2 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX1080 WindForce OC - NZXT S340 (Purple-White) - OCZ 120GB, Seagate 1TB - Corsair RM750i 80+ Gold - SAMSUNG S24D590 24", HP L1950g - Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum - Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum - Creative Cambridge Sound Works + two random Philips speakers, Logitech G430 headset - Win 10 Pro x64 Retro Gaming PC - ASUS T3 Server - HP ProLiant DL380 G6(Currently assembling it) - 2 x Intel Xeon E5520 2.26GHz 8MB Quad Core Processor NAS - Zyxel NSA320S 2 x Seagate Constellation ES 2TB(RAID1) - QNAP TS-212 1 x 500GB -=Logitech FanBoiiiiiiii=- I love NZXT as well <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 id say first off forget low-end crossfire. its not worth it and has way to many issues with dirvers and crap. then since your other options are pretty close id say what monitor you have could decide. if you got freesync then get the 580. if not get the 1060. but me personally id go and grab a used 980/980 TI or RX 480 8GB "You know it'll clock down as soon as it hits 40°C, right?" - "Yeah ... but it doesnt hit 40°C ... ever " GPU: MSI GTX1080 Ti Aero @ 2 GHz (watercooled) CPU: Ryzen 5600X (watercooled) RAM: 32GB 3600Mhz Corsair LPX MB: Gigabyte B550i PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Hyte Revolt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, samcool55 said: Umm, if you have all those cards just "hanging around" what about selling them and getting something like a 1080? Or even a 1080Ti. 1060's should sell for at LEAST 200 bucks, same for that rx 580, gives you at least 800 bucks which should be enough for a 1080ti. edit: and sell that CPU, mobo and ram as well and get something like an r5 1600 with a 1080 or whatever. That would be a damn good gaming system every time. every god damn time. i dont know why im surprised anymore. sont get me wrong its a valid point. its just that every time its just a matter of time until someone doesnt suggest the offered options but suggests rather to sell everything and get something completly different. e.g. "should i go amd for freesync or get nvidia and have more fps?" - "sell the freesync monitor and get a g-sync plus 1080" thats just funny to me. again not tying to offend you or mock your point its valid but... "You know it'll clock down as soon as it hits 40°C, right?" - "Yeah ... but it doesnt hit 40°C ... ever " GPU: MSI GTX1080 Ti Aero @ 2 GHz (watercooled) CPU: Ryzen 5600X (watercooled) RAM: 32GB 3600Mhz Corsair LPX MB: Gigabyte B550i PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Hyte Revolt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, Javier Ewe said: ok so it will perform better than the r9 280x in crossfire? i have all the cards just lying around in my house In my experience, some games will have improvements because they are well optimized, while others will have no difference, and some will perform worse. More games perform worse than not because they weren't designed for it, and you end up getting really bad flashing from lighting effects as well as other graphics anomalies. I've finally got Ghost Recon working fine, but too me a while to get there. It was pretty gnarly. Set up crossfire and see for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, cluelessgenius said: every time. every god damn time. i dont know why im surprised anymore. sont get me wrong its a valid point. its just that every time its just a matter of time until someone doesnt suggest the offered options but suggests rather to sell everything and get something completly different. e.g. "should i go amd for freesync or get nvidia and have more fps?" - "sell the freesync monitor and get a g-sync plus 1080" thats just funny to me. again not tying to offend you or mock your point its valid but... I suggested it because OP told us he has the cards laying around. Sounds to me they are on a shelf eating dust doing nothing. It makes more sense to me then to sell them and just get something better than OP has currently available. Sometimes not bothering with what you have but selling it and getting something else is a better solution for the problem. To me a 1060 6GB rig with 2 similar cards on a shelve eating dust sounds like a worse idea than selling all 3 and getting a 1080 for example. If you want my attention, quote meh! D: or just stick an @samcool55 in your post :3 Spying on everyone to fight against terrorism is like shooting a mosquito with a cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 16 minutes ago, Javier Ewe said: hahha because i have an exam tmr so i dont want to mess about installing and reinstalling drivers and such so i just thought someone on the forum would know. SA2, or the big 'O's? anyways, get the exam done first, then muck around with the hardware. use the 1060 6gb for now, once the exams are done you can try crossfire and see how it performs. CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 With that much cards, I would honestly sell all of them and buy a 1070/1080 since you want to go hard on mods on QHD. I'd sell your PC and get a new rig, you'd have quite a bit of left over money from selling cards. The ability to google properly is a skill of its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 The 580 is probably faster irl than a 1060 but I would not buy any 4 or 3 GB card anymore so if you can find a 580 8G geit it. Otherwise get the 1060 6G. Also don't get a crappy cooler for the 580. For the 1060 it won't matter as much as it draws way less power. http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/334934-unofficial-ltt-beginners-guide/ (by Minibois) and a few things that will make our community interaction more pleasent:1. FOLLOW your own topics 2.Try to QUOTE people so we can read through things easier 3.Use PCPARTPICKER.COM - easy and most importantly approved here 4.Mark your topics SOLVED if they are Don't change a running system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, Bouzoo said: With that much cards, I would honestly sell all of them and buy a 1070/1080 since you want to go hard on mods on QHD. I'd sell your PC and get a new rig, you'd have quite a bit of left over money from selling cards. 1070 is a pretty bad buy right now. New, most cards will run $450-500. That's 1070Ti territory, which can perform better than a 1080 reference when overclocked. PC Specs - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - MSI B550M Mortar - 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR4-3600 @ CL16 - ASRock RX7800XT - 660p 1TBGB & Crucial P5 1TB - Fractal Define Mini C - CM V750v2 - Windows 11 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, NelizMastr said: 1070 is a pretty bad buy right now. New, most cards will run $450-500. That's 1070Ti territory, which can perform better than a 1080 reference when overclocked. Currently 1070Ti in some places is in 1080 territory pricing so it's even less worth it than a 1070, which is still a lot cheaper (in some places) than a 1070Ti. The ability to google properly is a skill of its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, Bouzoo said: Currently 1070Ti in some places is in 1080 territory pricing so it's even less worth it than a 1070, which is still a lot cheaper (in some places) than a 1070Ti. I guess it depends on location. Here in the Netherlands, most 1070s are €470-500 now, where a 1070Ti from EVGA can be had for €489. 1080s start around €530-ish up to 600+ PC Specs - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - MSI B550M Mortar - 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR4-3600 @ CL16 - ASRock RX7800XT - 660p 1TBGB & Crucial P5 1TB - Fractal Define Mini C - CM V750v2 - Windows 11 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 Author haha such an overwhelming number of responses, i should/hope to get a r7 1700 1080 ti/vega 64 build soon anyway. thanks for all the replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2017 For those games, I'd use the 1060. But you should try them all out and see how it goes. Otherwise, you could sell them all as well as your CPU and get better ones if you can lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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