I was told that 1080p is "unusable" and that anyone who thought it was "has never used a computer for anything but gaming"

[ElZamo92]

4 minutes ago, lilbman said:

Idk man, once you go AMOLED 1440p, there is no going back.  iPhone screens in comparison look kind of bland when put side by side w/ my Note 4.

I can’t tell the difference unless I stick both phones 5 cm from my face. On the other hand, when looking at VR content with something like google cardboard the difference is like night and day. 

[Arika]

Who ever told you 1080p is unusable is an idiot and you should never listen to their advice again

[vanished]

2 hours ago, Captain Chaos said:

I can verify that Win7 and Win8.1 indeed have menus and pop-up windows that don't fit on a 1024x600 screen.  You can't even see the content of the "next", "ok" and "cancel" buttons at the bottom.

 

Then again it's pretty much the same story on Linux Mint.  You really need at least 1024x768 nowadays. 

yeah, that's what I thought.  Thanks for checking

So really, @TurbulentWinds that is the minimum that is usable, and anything less would be objectively unusable

 

That said I personally prefer to not go under 1080p, but that's just personal opinion.  This ^ is not

[Eaglerino]

1080p's fine, 2K is even better, I can only imagine what 4K is like. Only problem with going past 1080p is some older software scales horrendously

[TurbulentWinds]

18 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

yeah, that's what I thought.  Thanks for checking

So really, @TurbulentWinds that is the minimum that is usable, and anything less would be objectively unusable

 

That said I personally prefer to not go under 1080p, but that's just personal opinion.  This ^ is not

Well, y'all just won me an argument so thanks guys!

[PETRGangKing]

3 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

I said Mainstream GPU hardware isn't there yet.

 

When a x60 Nvidia GPU or x80 AMD GPU runs 4K 60 fps on almost all titles at max settings then it'll be mainstream.

I get 60fps in almost all games, unless I turn up scaling . I'm running a 1080 ti on water.

[PETRGangKing]

3 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

4K would be ideal but mainstream GPU hardware isn't there yet. And also 4K monitors are too expensive.

Honestly, I think monitor tech is holding us back more than GPU tech. In almost all my games, I am held back by the refresh rate of my monitor. 

[ProjectBox153]

3 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Have you tried using 640 x 480 recently?

Yes I have. 

[Masada02]

1080p 240hz here after coming from 1440p ultrawide. For me, a much better experience for everything other than movies. It's also super nice being able drive games at max settings and very high fps with older hardware. 

[Tech22]

After going 1440p, 1080p looks like garbage. No 1440p option?

[PETRGangKing]

4 hours ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Yah but I'd consider it to be there already. As long as its able to run at 45fps+ at whatever settings then I'd consider it playable thus its good enough. 

A 980 ti doesn't quite get you there. I ran two of them for a little over a year and there was still some games it would struggle to hit 40fps on. My 1080 ti tho, hits 60 fps on almost everything, so I do agree with your main point.

[Ninja_Commander]

On my pc I have a 27" 1440p 144hz ips for my main for my gaming rig, plus I have a 24" 1080p 144hz tn thats on top of the 27".  Its in a vertical stand, more space for me in my L Desk.  Anyways, I can tell the difference between them, however, I can say I can go back to either one and I'm fine with it.  And I'm running a 980 Ti, so I have no real problems.  I will say this, Once you see what each has on a daily basis, it becomes natural to have both 1080 and 1440 at the same time.  Good things they are both 144hz.

[Tcrumpen]

It depends on your use case but 1080p is so ubiquitous now that i's hard to NOT find a 1080p screen on laptops these days (ok really cheap ones might still use 1366 x 768) whoever told you is isn't usable is talking out of their arse. Also find out from him/her why they believe it to be unusable

[Mr.Meerkat]

12 hours ago, PETRGangKing said:

A 980 ti doesn't quite get you there. I ran two of them for a little over a year and there was still some games it would struggle to hit 40fps on. My 1080 ti tho, hits 60 fps on almost everything, so I do agree with your main point.

What settings tho?

[AlTech]

13 hours ago, PETRGangKing said:

I get 60fps in almost all games, unless I turn up scaling . I'm running a 1080 ti on water.

Again, I said x60 Nvidia GPU. When a $200 GPU can play 4K60 then it'll be mainstream.

[AlTech]

14 hours ago, ElZamo92 said:

4K is not that expensive if you buy something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-CB281HK-LED-LCD-Monitor/dp/B01LHU9ANO

An appropriate GPU is still far too expensive.

[PETRGangKing]

4 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Again, I said x60 Nvidia GPU. When a $200 GPU can play 4K60 then it'll be mainstream.

That is a pretty askew definition of mainstream. While I get the point you are trying to get, most people would consider a 1080 ti to be mainstream.

[PETRGangKing]

4 hours ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

What settings tho?

I run everything at Ultra settings. I usually end up turning the scaling up to get as much out of it as possible because I get capped out at 60fps on my monitor.

[AlTech]

6 minutes ago, PETRGangKing said:

While I get the point you are trying to get, most people would consider a 1080 ti to be mainstream.

Mainstream as in mass market, cheaper, affordable product.

 

the 1080Ti is definitely not mainstream in the GPU market.

 

Even Nvidia knows that.

 

A GTX 1060 is mainstream. A 1080Ti is extremely high end.

[minervx]

1080p is fine.  To say its unusable is complete snobbery.  

 

However, the dropoff from 1080p to below 1080p is very noticeable

[PETRGangKing]

15 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Mainstream as in mass market, cheaper, affordable product.

 

the 1080Ti is definitely not mainstream in the GPU market.

 

Even Nvidia knows that.

 

A GTX 1060 is mainstream. A 1080Ti is extremely high end.

Mainstream ≠ Affordable. I agree with the gist of your argument, there are no affordable graphics solutions that allow for gaming at 4k at a decent framerate, but that is not to say it isnt mainstream.

 

The GTX 1080 is the one of the best selling graphics cards of all time in only a year and a half, and the 1080 ti isnt far behind it. To say those aren't mainstream, would be an inaccurate representation.

[TurbulentWinds]

17 hours ago, Tech22 said:

After going 1440p, 1080p looks like garbage. No 1440p option?

Sorry, I forgot to add it

[TurbulentWinds]

23 minutes ago, PETRGangKing said:

Mainstream ≠ Affordable. I agree with the gist of your argument, there are no affordable graphics solutions that allow for gaming at 4k at a decent framerate, but that is not to say it isnt mainstream.

 

The GTX 1080 is the one of the best selling graphics cards of all time in only a year and a half, and the 1080 ti isnt far behind it. To say those aren't mainstream, would be an inaccurate representation.

I would call mainstream 4K for baseline office PCs.

[TurbulentWinds]

11 hours ago, L.Lawliet said:

Who the f*ck said that?

It depends on how u define usable.

I'd say for movies,gaming,browsing,LTT machine its enough.

So why its unusable? 

1080p give us a good looking image that everyone can afford which is a good thing.

2k is becoming ubiquitos <not sure if i type it correctly and its indeed more superior than 1080p.

4k however..ehh not many people can afford 4k monitor or Tv and if they can they'll require something powerful to fully utilize it especially PC.

This is what they said:

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1080 is a totally unusable and idiotic resolution because you have a width you can´t really use because it´s not wide enough, and you lack a great deal of height.  You also can´t reasonably turn the display 90 degrees to have a useful height because when you do that, it´s not wide enough and more like the 1024x768 that wasn´t enough even 25 years ago.  If you can not understand that, you probably have never used a computer for anything but playing games or watching videos/movies.

 

[PETRGangKing]

3 minutes ago, TurbulentWinds said:

This is what they said:

 

Whoever said that is ignorant. The vast majority of gamers out there game on 1080p, especially when you factor in consoles. In fact, many console gamers game at a lower resolution than 1080p.