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Multiple display smartphone from ZTE

I could not see it posted anywhere on the forum so i think i'll write thing or two about that.
Yesterday (17.10.17r.) ZTE announced their new smartphone - Axon M which might just be one of the most interesting relase this year. ZTE completly changed their approach to designing smartphones and made an unusual Axon M which is a foldable phone with two 5.2-inch 1080p displays. It can be used in 4 diferent modes: Dual mode, Extended mode, Mirror mode, Traditional mode.

In Dual mode each screen can be used idependetlly:

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In Extended mode they are used as one big 2160p display:
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In Mirror mode both screens are displaing the same content: 

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And ofcourse Traditional mode name speaks for it self.

Axon M features: Quad-core Qualcom Snapdragon 821 runing at 2.15 Ghz, 4 GB of Ram, 64 GB of storage expandable via Micro SD card up to 256 GB, 3180 mAh battery, 20  MP camera capeable of 4k 30 hz.
Phone is running on Adroid 7.1.2 (Nugat)
In the matter of conectivity : USB type C, Bluetooth 4.2, 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2.4 GHz/ 5 GHz
And it has 3,5 mm audio jack which is in fact also unusual feature these days... 
 

Most common concern which i noticed pretty much across all articles is about its limited battery size.


Acording to ZTE the phone will be released in the next mounth in USA and it will be AT&T exclusive at launch. It will launch in Japan, China and Europe latter on.


Sources: 
http://www.ztedevice.com/press-center/news/201710/20171017
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/2017s-most-innovative-smartphone-ztes-dual-screen-axon-m/

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What is the market for this? I don't honestly know how or what you would use this for? Not to mention that powering 2 screens with a 3180 mAh battery is going to be a pain.

Good to see that they are trying to innovate but I don't think this is the right direction, especially when you see things like the Xioami Mi Mix which did the whole bezless thing before Samsung and Apple. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

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Looks like the second screen goes behind the first. How does it not get scratched when you put the thing down?

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3 minutes ago, JaegerB said:

Looks like the second screen goes behind the first. How does it not get scratched when you put the thing down?

We've had scratch resistant screens for more than half a decade... how does your phone not get scratched when you lay it face down? How do glass back phones not get scratched for that matter?

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Would be interesting on how you would make a robust Phone case for it though, 

Good enough to withstand drops but still be malleable to allow the folding of screens.

 

I assume the Secondary screen has a lip around the screen so it is slightly raised when used in traditional mode. I Assume you can change between functions using the pull down menu.

 

Mirror mode would be ideal for showing someone what you want them to see while using it, or a show your watching.

Extended Mode seems ideal for artistic people wanting a larger drawing area but the dead zone in-between the two screens would cause an issue.

Dual mode umm a Multitasker maybe having two things open in my experience I would most likely use it for Browsing and taking notes on what I find.

 

I personally would bit the bullet for this android depending on the price. which I assume wouldn't be cheap. 

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We've had scratch resistant screens for more than half a decade... how does your phone not get scratched when you lay it face down? How do glass back phones not get scratched for that matter?

Phone cases and screen protectors.

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2 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

Phone cases and screen protectors.

^^^ Well that phone will have a very oddly designed phone case :/ 

 

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3 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

Phone cases and screen protectors.

Can't you use a screen protector on this?

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-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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1 minute ago, Sauron said:

Can't you use a screen protector on this?

Surely you can use a screen protector on it. It is just another generic phone just with an extra screen slapped onto it 

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Someone needs to bring the flip phone back... but this phone looks interesting I definitely would use the independent screen mode more than the others. Depends on pricing now to get me to buy one

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Just now, Alex Colson said:

Surely you can use a screen protector on it. It is just another generic phone just with an extra screen slapped onto it 

Exactly, sooo... what's the problem? Making a border only case shouldn't be that hard either.

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-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Exactly, sooo... what's the problem? Making a border only case shouldn't be that hard either.

Two separate cases would kind be required by the looks of it. But then a case wouldn't be able to protect the pivot point of the two screens if dropped. So via an accident you may end up making the phone traditional permanently if it still works after the screen being broke off that is.

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3 minutes ago, Alex Colson said:

Two separate cases would kind be required by the looks of it. But then a case wouldn't be able to protect the pivot point of the two screens if dropped. So via an accident you may end up making the phone traditional permanently if it still works after the screen being broke off that is.

If they put any thought into it at all that shouldn't be a problem. Of course abusing your phone will break it... as long as you don't give it to a child it should be fine. It's definitely not at risk of scratching the moment you put it down, that's for sure.

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Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

Spoiler

A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

Spoiler

A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

Spoiler

Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Sauron said:

If they put any thought into it at all that shouldn't be a problem. Of course abusing your phone will break it... as long as you don't give it to a child it should be fine. It's definitely not at risk of scratching the moment you put it down, that's for sure.

Scratching shouldn't be any problem even if the screen is flush with the case as you stated scratch proof screens. Tbf the pivot point does look sturdy enough and not some type of flimsy plastic. 

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I don't think they understood the concept of foldable phone.

Looking at this video of the phone in action, you can see that it doesn't work properly. Apps are stretched, unless made for it (or hacked up by ZTE to make it work), or have apps side by side. The point of a foldable phone is that it isn't a brick for nothing, and actually have the OS itself adapt into a tablet mode, not 2 screen hacked up job. Ie: the phone turns into a tablet. This, in this case, is just a phone dual screen.

 

 

Idea is good, but I think only Samsung could pull it off right, as they have the resources and know how on how to make a custom Android version that can fully take advantage of this, and the hardware know how to not make it a brick.

 

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I really thought ZTE made flip phones great again 

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14 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

but I think only Samsung could pull it off right,

I’d rather see flexible phones again using P-OLED like the LG G Flex 

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@GoodBytes tbf for apps to work on it. Part of it is having the OS adapt to the app but also the app to adapt to the Screen resolution. the OS is working properly, its the fact the OS can either Stretch the app screen causing it to well look stretched or black box the app meaning your left with a boarder.

 

Yes any other Well named brand could pull it off but you have to give them credit for trying to lead this front/ bring it back

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46 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Can't you use a screen protector on this?

Sure but the response I was looking for was something along the lines of "Smartass".

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56 minutes ago, Sauron said:

We've had scratch resistant screens for more than half a decade... how does your phone not get scratched when you lay it face down? How do glass back phones not get scratched for that matter?

they're in a case? :P

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14 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

I don't think they understood the concept of foldable phone.

Looking at this video of the phone in action, you can see that it doesn't work properly. Apps are stretched, unless made for it (or hacked up by ZTE to make it work), or have apps side by side. The point of a foldable phone is that it isn't a brick for nothing, and actually have the OS itself adapt into a tablet mode, not 2 screen hacked up job. Ie: the phone turns into a tablet. This, in this case, is just a phone dual screen.

Idea is good, but I think only Samsung could pull it off right, as they have the resources and know how on how to make a custom Android version that can fully take advantage of this, and the hardware know how to not make it a brick.

 

Well, in term of software it's not that easy. You cannot expect software to be developed entirely by smartphone producer. Even Microsoft couldn't make it. Moreover it must take some time for apps developers to implement mechanics allowing to use full potential of such devices. I think it will get better over time and it's extrapolated from a simple fact that ZTE reached out to google to help them with software adjustment. It's worth a notice.

 

51 minutes ago, Alex Colson said:

^^^ Well that phone will have a very oddly designed phone case :/ 

 

I can see it with case like Dbrand Grip but with some easy possibility to take it off or  with hinge side free of it so it wouldn't block the second screen. It's not only possible to design such a case but it would be easier than you may think i can see three possible designs right away.

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2 minutes ago, AccordingOne said:

I can see it with case like Dbrand Grip but with some easy possibility to take it off or  with hinge side free of it so it wouldn't block the second screen. It's not only possible to design such a case but it would be easier than you may think i can see three possible designs right away.

Oh I can see simple case designs already as you stated with leaving the Hinge side free. but it would be more or less Dual casing. one for each screen and further more the secondary screen is going to have a case back modelled for it as it has a snap in function as seen in the video posted further up the thread.

 

Never said it wouldn't be possible just it would be odd to get an ideal case design that is both protective to the phone while not making it more clunky.

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2 hours ago, Cheesus182 said:

What is the market for this? I don't honestly know how or what you would use this for? Not to mention that powering 2 screens with a 3180 mAh battery is going to be a pain.

Good to see that they are trying to innovate but I don't think this is the right direction, especially when you see things like the Xioami Mi Mix which did the whole bezless thing before Samsung and Apple. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

To be fair i don't think it's a great idea either, never the less it's something new. But i don't think bezelless design is important either. (Actually AXON M would be much more effective, if there was no bezel between two screens. )
Much more sensible move for ZTE is further development axon 7-like smartphones on of which is probably coming in 2017 anyway i hope so:

 

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2 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

I don't think they understood the concept of foldable phone.

Looking at this video of the phone in action, you can see that it doesn't work properly. Apps are stretched, unless made for it (or hacked up by ZTE to make it work), or have apps side by side. The point of a foldable phone is that it isn't a brick for nothing, and actually have the OS itself adapt into a tablet mode, not 2 screen hacked up job. Ie: the phone turns into a tablet. This, in this case, is just a phone dual screen.

 

 

Idea is good, but I think only Samsung could pull it off right, as they have the resources and know how on how to make a custom Android version that can fully take advantage of this, and the hardware know how to not make it a brick.

 

I was semi-interested until i found out it doesnt go into a tablet mode. What nonsense is that?

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