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Your system needs single core for AE and RAM. For Cinema 4D and blender you need Threads so you will need to make a trade off of what you really need and choose a processor that is middle of the road for both. 

Read both of these

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-After-Effects-144/Hardware-Recommendations

and 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Cinema-4D-166/Hardware-Recommendations

 

 

So I am kind of new to building systems, NEVER built one before but I want to build one for myself.

Main purposes are media creation like After Effects, Cinema 4D and Blender. 

Budget (must include windows and exclude mouse, keyboard and monitor) - $1000 CAD

Prefrences - no used parts, intel processor with base clock of 4Ghz and overclockable, a water cooler if possible.

Must have at least 16GB of RAM and 10 threads in cpu, fast wifi card.

NOT going to be gaming most of the time.

No cares about rgb or looks, just need performance.

 

Any help will be appreciated.

 

(I personally think coffee lake cpu will be good, would like but not necessary to have a decent gpu.)

 

 

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($369.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($164.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Black PCIe 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($136.25 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GT 1030 2GB Silent Low Profile Video Card  ($89.50 @ Vuugo) 
Case: DIYPC - MA01-R MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $999.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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4 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($369.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($164.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Black PCIe 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($136.25 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GT 1030 2GB Silent Low Profile Video Card  ($89.50 @ Vuugo) 
Case: DIYPC - MA01-R MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $999.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Prefer not to use ryzen because the scripts I use in after effects work better on a faster single core that slower multiple cores.

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12 minutes ago, jblflip5 said:

Prefer not to use ryzen because the scripts I use in after effects work better on a faster single core that slower multiple cores.

it'll perform much better than a coffee lake i5 for blender and cinema 4d, and an i7 8700 would be too expensive right now.

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3 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

it'll perform much better than a coffee lake i5 for blender and cinema 4d, and an i7 8700 would be too expensive right now.

And what about the wifi card??

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Idk what happened. I was typing on another thing and it just went over to this one. Even the quote.

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8 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

it'll perform much better than a coffee lake i5 for blender and cinema 4d, and an i7 8700 would be too expensive right now.

I can also live without a GPU

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5 minutes ago, jblflip5 said:

And what about the wifi card??

you didn't say anything about needing a wireless adaptor. you can get a cheaper b350 mobo or ssd to get money for windows.

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24 minutes ago, jblflip5 said:

Prefer not to use ryzen because the scripts I use in after effects work better on a faster single core that slower multiple cores.

If you really want some fast stuff get an FX series chip. The 9590 will hit a 5 Ghz overclock easy with good cooling.

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1 minute ago, jblflip5 said:

I can also live without a GPU

the 1700 doesn't have an iGPU and i added the 1030 for cuda acceleration

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1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

go troll somewhere else. 

I know it's shit but it has a very fast clock speed and that's what he said he wanted soooooooooo.

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8 minutes ago, №☢ said:

I know it's shit but it has a very fast clock speed and that's what he said he wanted soooooooooo.

I am not an AMD fanboy

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Just saying 80% of my work is actually after effects

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17 minutes ago, jblflip5 said:

Just saying 80% of my work is actually after effects

abit over but:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($405.50 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($139.00 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($164.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - BX300 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($107.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GT 710 1GB Video Card  ($42.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: DIYPC - Solo-T1-BK ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1009.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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you can run windows deactivated for the time being and activate it later.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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8 hours ago, №☢ said:

If you really want some fast stuff get an FX series chip. The 9590 will hit a 5 Ghz overclock easy with good cooling.

The ipc is literal garbage. They said they wanted single threaded performance, not clock speed.

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55 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

The ipc is literal garbage. They said they wanted single threaded performance, not clock speed.

No he never said that. He said faster single core. He never even said performance.

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10 hours ago, jblflip5 said:

So I am kind of new to building systems, NEVER built one before but I want to build one for myself.

Main purposes are media creation like After Effects, Cinema 4D and Blender. 

Budget (must include windows and exclude mouse, keyboard and monitor) - $1000 CAD

Prefrences - no used parts, intel processor with base clock of 4Ghz and overclockable, a water cooler if possible.

Must have at least 16GB of RAM and 10 threads in cpu, fast wifi card.

NOT going to be gaming most of the time.

No cares about rgb or looks, just need performance.

 

Any help will be appreciated.

 

(I personally think coffee lake cpu will be good, would like but not necessary to have a decent gpu.)

 

 

 

Not going to happen. 

 

This is as close as I could get. And, it really needs an ssd and gpu. The gpu because AfterEffects and other Adobe creative products can make use of the gpu to accelerate various functions. CPU turbos to 4.6GHz.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($405.50 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($165.99 @ PC Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($184.99 @ Memory Express) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.95 @ Vuugo) 
Case: Corsair - 270R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Memory Express) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ Memory Express) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($144.75 @ Vuugo) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC55BT B1 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($45.99 @ PC Canada) 
Total: $1137.15
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On ‎10‎/‎18‎/‎2017 at 9:09 AM, №☢ said:

No he never said that. He said faster single core. He never even said performance.

NO he wanted faster single threaded performance.

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50 minutes ago, №☢ said:

No he never said that. He said faster single core. He never even said performance.

Yes he did. Faster single core doesn't mean clock speed, it means performance. 

 

No one in their right mind would call a 4 ghz FX CPU faster than a 3.5 ghz Coffee Lake cpu, would they?

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Your system needs single core for AE and RAM. For Cinema 4D and blender you need Threads so you will need to make a trade off of what you really need and choose a processor that is middle of the road for both. 

Read both of these

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-After-Effects-144/Hardware-Recommendations

and 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Cinema-4D-166/Hardware-Recommendations

 

 

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11 hours ago, №☢ said:

If you really want some fast stuff get an FX series chip. The 9590 will hit a 5 Ghz overclock easy with good cooling.

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