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What to replace my X58/I7 980X setup?

I have right now a X58 system with a I7 980X and a GTX 1080 TI that runs pretty great. But i want a second GTX 1080 TI for sli now cause its one heck of a nice card and after tasting light 4K gaming i am really hooked for it now. But I think to handle 2 GTX 1080 TI in sli is to much to ask my current X58 system for. AMD is no go, i am no fan of AMD and Intels chips looks to still have better IPC over ryzen or threadripper and i want more than 6 cores so up comming Coffee lake is no go either.

 

So i am thinking used X99 or a new X299/Skylake X setup. If skylake X i have really looked at that soon comming 14 core I9-7940X. I know its overkill for me right now cause i mostly game but i di video convert at times and i tend to keep my CPU for years before replacing, So it has to be a CPU with some grunt to it so it can hold up as years pass by or cut i run two GTX 1080 TI on my X58 just fine.

 

What would you guys do in my place?

 

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used x99. @CUDA_Cores will tell you all about how great it is, and used xeons down the road, and then x99 becomes x79 with expensive motherboards.

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138 is a good number.

 

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4 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

What would you guys do in my place?

Wait for Coffeelake and get an 8700K, it should be a pretty big upgrade from your X58 i7 ;) 

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3 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

I know its overkill for me right now cause i mostly game but i di video convert at times and i tend to keep my CPU for years before replacing,

You probably should just go i7 8700k on a nice sli-ready z370

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5 minutes ago, themctipers said:

used x99. @CUDA_Cores will tell you all about how great it is, and used xeons down the road, and then x99 becomes x79 with expensive motherboards.

Yeah that looks to be a good upgrade and i can get up to 10 cores. That is deffently on my list for possible way to go.

 

6 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Wait for Coffeelake and get an 8700K, it should be a pretty big upgrade from your X58 i7 ;) 

 

6 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

You probably should just go i7 8700k on a nice sli-ready z370

I you guys would read what i just ride in the top: "i want more than 6 cores so up comming Coffee lake is no go either"

 

If i upgrade i want more than 6 cores at least. Upgrade from one 6 core to another is not my thing and coffee lake only offers up to 6 cores.

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If you're set on going with X299 I would be very wary of the cpu models that are above 10 core. The 7900x is already a lot for most X299 boards, often overwhelming their VRMs and power delivery, and all I can see fixing this with the 12+ core models is limiting their powerdraw and therefore maximum clocks

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/251882-overclocker-claims-x299-vrm-temperatures-disaster-limit-skylake-x-potential 

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1 minute ago, Moress said:

If you're set on going with X299 I would be very wary of the cpu models that are above 10 core. The 7900x is already a lot for most X299 boards, often overwhelming their VRMs and power delivery, and all I can see fixing this with the 12+ core models is limiting their powerdraw and therefore maximum clocks


https://www.extremetech.com/computing/251882-overclocker-claims-x299-vrm-temperatures-disaster-limit-skylake-x-potential 

Well yeah skylake X cpu seems to need alot of power then oc. So i am not planning on going for a cheap motherboard. If i go X299 i am planning on going for ASUS ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX or maybe EVGA X299 DARK cause these two has 2 x 8 pins for CPU, so that shut cut deliver some power for the CPU.

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Dont go X299.

I would get Ryzen, it nearly ties with X99 chips and has huge future potential

 

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4 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

Well yeah skylake X cpu seems to need alot of power then oc. So i am not planning on going for a cheap motherboard. If i go X299 i am planning on going for ASUS ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX or maybe EVGA X299 DARK cause these two has 2 x 8 pins for CPU, so that shut cut deliver some power for the CPU.

I would go for the Dark personally, that Apex board is ugly! Either way if you do want to get the high core models I would wait a week or two to make sure they don't burn up boards faster than a FX9590

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1 minute ago, dave_k said:

Dont go X299.

I would get Ryzen, it nearly ties with X99 chips and has huge future potential

or threadripper 

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1 minute ago, dave_k said:

Dont go X299.

I would get Ryzen, it nearly ties with X99 chips and has huge future potential

"AMD is no go, i am no fan of AMD and Intels chips looks to still have better IPC"

 

Again if you guys would just read what i ride properly :/

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Just now, Intelfreak said:

"AMD is no go, i am no fan of AMD and Intels chips looks to still have better IPC"

 

Again if you guys would just read what i ride properly :/

I have problems with reading i know.

Your problem, youre loosing the performance.

 

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2 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

still have better IPC"

If youre so worried about IPC you'd be waiting on CannonLake as it should have a better IPC than Skylake-X

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1 minute ago, Moress said:

I would go for the Dark personally, that Apex board is ugly! Either way if you do want to get the high core models I would wait a week or two to make sure they don't burn up boards faster than a FX9590

Well we all have different taste about motherboard desing, but the advise about wait and se if motherboard can handle those 10 core+ CPU's is not a bad idea. I think i will do that if X299.

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6 minutes ago, Moress said:

If youre so worried about IPC you'd be waiting on CannonLake as it should have a better IPC than Skylake-X

Then i can wait forever for better IPC. No i just want bedst IPC possible while cores is also up to what i want now. And AMD ryzen/threadripper does not have so good IPC as skylake X and good IPC is better for gaming also since games still dosent take advantage above 6 cores so much yet at least. But in the future that hopefully change and overclock is also importen to me and as far i can se ryzen/threadripper has a hard time going above 4 GHz so not much fun in that.

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5 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

Then i can wait forever for better IPC. No i just want bedst IPC possible while cores is also up to what i want now. And AMD ryzen/threadripper does not have so good IPC as skylake X and good IPC is better for gaming also since games still dosent take advantage above 6 cores so much yet at least. But in the future that hopefully change and overclock is also importen to me and as far i can se ryzen/threadripper has a hard time going above 4 GHz so not much fun in that.

Good luck getting your 12 core skylake-x chip above 4ghz... Looking into a dual 360mil custom loop...

 

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31 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

Then i can wait forever for better IPC. No i just want bedst IPC possible while cores is also up to what i want now. And AMD ryzen/threadripper does not have so good IPC as skylake X and good IPC is better for gaming also since games still dosent take advantage above 6 cores so much yet at least. But in the future that hopefully change and overclock is also importen to me and as far i can se ryzen/threadripper has a hard time going above 4 GHz so not much fun in that.

Skylake-X performs in most games like Ryzen because of its retarded Mesh system.

It has high latency.

7800X performs same as R5 1600 that costs half the price of 7800X

 

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17 minutes ago, dave_k said:

7800X performs same as R5 1600 for twice the price

ftfy

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4 minutes ago, Moress said:

ftfy

R5 1600 costs half the price of 7800X

 

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1 minute ago, dave_k said:

R5 1600 costs half the price of 7800X

yeah but the way you phrased it would imply that the 7800x costs half as much of the 1600.

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I have read all comments, looked at skylake X prices and heat develoment and the fact that intel has not soldered even the 12 core skylake X cpu and AMD is not my thing.

 

I think i will try and find a used X99 mobo and a I7 6950X to start with. That shut still be a good upgrade from X58.

 

Thanks every ones respond.

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1 hour ago, Intelfreak said:

I you guys would read what i just ride in the top: "i want more than 6 cores so up comming Coffee lake is no go either"

Why?the i7 8700k is the best cost to performance for every single thing you noted while it'll be relevant for the next 5 years easy, it will also provide superior gaming performance than the i7 6950x.

 

If you want to simply waste money then well no point in asking suggestions just get a an i9 7900x which is very well priced in fact a much better purchase a brand new one than an used i7 6950x

 

Get Asus for motherboard and don't cheap on cooling and you'll get it to 4.8ghz just fine.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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