X5650 bottlenecking?

[god_bmxes]

Hey guys,

 

I recently decided to upgrade to an x5650 from an outside 860. I bottlebeck my 1070 a good bit right now but am wondering how bad it will bottle neck with the x5650? My 860 is OCed to 4.0 using a Hyper 212 Evo, I plan to OC they x5650 aswell.

[NumLock21]

It's going to bottleneck to infinity and beyond!

[Swealteek]

1 minute ago, god_bmxes said:

Hey guys,

 

I recently decided to upgrade to an x5650 from an outside 860. I bottlebeck my 1070 a good bit right now but am wondering how bad it will bottle neck with the x5650? My 860 is OCed to 4.0 using a Hyper 212 Evo, I plan to OC they x5650 aswell.

No NO NO STOP IT. Thats a lovely cpu wil not bottlnex the gpu.I think its PCI2.0 so may thats the bottleneck bit still its not noticeable. OC it i mean 4.0GHz on a six core... sounds cool to my . Yes for gaming a I5 6600K or Ather K whit high singel core perf is better but stil if you have a X58 motherbord GO FOR IT !

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, Swealteek said:

No NO NO STOP IT. Thats a lovely cpu wil not bottlnex the gpu.I think its PCI2.0 so may thats the bottleneck bit still its not noticeable. OC it i mean 4.0GHz on a six core... sounds cool to my . Yes for gaming a I5 6600K or Ather K whit high singel core perf is better but stil if you have a X58 motherbord GO FOR IT !

Both will bottleneck though

 

that's some low IPC

[Swealteek]

Just now, JDE said:

Both will bottleneck though

 

that's some low IPC

Again, For gaming yes get samting els but if he can get the X58 motherbord on the cheap and is not gone play games all day go for it. Also if he is gone play at anting high than 1080P that removes some of the bottleneck

[Intelfreak]

X5650 oc to 4 GHz+ and a GTX 1070 = you will be just fine.

 

belieave it or not but i am running a I7 980X with a GTX 1080 Ti (nope its no joke) and that runt far better than i exspected

 

Well at 1080P yes there is a bit of bottleneck but go op to 2560 x 1600 or 4K and there is 99 % GPU load the hole time and FPS got better over my old GTX 970 SLI setup and who the hell bay a GTX 1080 TI to play 1080P any way

 

 

[IKnight]

Don't worry about the bottleneck. These CPUs are pretty good. 

And if depends what Res you are going to be running at. If it's 1080p, get a GTX 1060 and call it a day. 

[god_bmxes]

I do.play at 1080 atm, but I will be upgrading to 1440 in the bearish future. Also want to go to Ryzen in the winter, was mainly just wanting to have fun with a Xeon. However though, it should do alot better than my current 860, that thing is rough

[Ashiella]

On 9/1/2017 at 2:42 PM, JDE said:

Both will bottleneck though

 

that's some low IPC

4.33ghz x5650 = stock 5820k

[LienusLateTips]

2 hours ago, Ashiella said:

4.33ghz x5650 = stock 5820k

Low IPC

[chexor]

I dont think x5650 will bottleneck 1070 at all (if you get decent OC) x5650 is on pair with i7 6700 stock, so you will be fine..

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, chexor said:

I dont think x5650 will bottleneck 1070 at all (if you get decent OC) x5650 is on pair with i7 6700 stock, so you will be fine..

IPC and clock is less

[Ashiella]

17 hours ago, JDE said:

Low IPC

fx9590

[DrQuin04]

On 9/1/2017 at 5:19 PM, Intelfreak said:

X5650 oc to 4 GHz+ and a GTX 1070 = you will be just fine.

 

belieave it or not but i am running a I7 980X with a GTX 1080 Ti (nope its no joke) and that runt far better than i exspected

 

Well at 1080P yes there is a bit of bottleneck but go op to 2560 x 1600 or 4K and there is 99 % GPU load the hole time and FPS got better over my old GTX 970 SLI setup and who the hell bay a GTX 1080 TI to play 1080P any way

 

 

Man, I gotta chime in with my I7-920 and a gtx 1070 gaming at 4k ultra on PUBG w/ reshade. I might not get 60 fps consistantly but my eyes cant tell the difference between 40-60 fps anyways which is what I avg. If I go to 2k I'll avg. 70 fps and 1080 is 115+. X58's is my favorite generation so far over the decades.

[Intelfreak]

5 hours ago, DrQuin04 said:

Man, I gotta chime in with my I7-920 and a gtx 1070 gaming at 4k ultra on PUBG w/ reshade. I might not get 60 fps consistantly but my eyes cant tell the difference between 40-60 fps anyways which is what I avg. If I go to 2k I'll avg. 70 fps and 1080 is 115+. X58's is my favorite generation so far over the decades.

I dont play PUBG, but exsample BF1 64 player online that is very CPU intense i stay between 65 and 90 FPS every thing maxed out at 1080P. Still need to test 4K. Else in most games i stay well above 100 FPS at 1080P and 2560x1600 while 4K strangles FPS more. But yeah agreed X58 has been great all the years so far and still going strong.

 

I upgradet from a I7 920 to that I7 980X i have now about 9 months a go and from GTX 970 SLI to that GTX 1080 TI i have now 2 months a go.

 

Have you overclock that that I7 920. If its a DO revision it shut be good for 4 GHz+ if cooled properly (an air cooler is sufficient, but needs to be of one of the good one´s and not a cheap cooler like the else påpular Cooler master Evo 212).

 

This i how my old DO I7 920 would clock for bench (for daily use clokked back to 4.1 GHz on air cooling to keep temp in check).

 

I7 920 + single GTX 970

 

I7 920 + GTX 970 SLI

 

[DrQuin04]

2 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

I dont play PUBG, but exsample BF1 64 player online that is very CPU intense i stay between 65 and 90 FPS every thing maxed out at 1080P. Still need to test 4K. Else in most games i stay well above 100 FPS at 1080P and 2560x1600 while 4K strangles FPS more. But yeah agreed X58 has been great all the years so far and still going strong.

 

I upgradet from a I7 920 to that I7 980X i have now about 9 months a go and from GTX 970 SLI to that GTX 1080 TI i have now 2 months a go.

 

Have you overclock that that I7 920. If its a DO revision it shut be good for 4 GHz+ if cooled properly (an air cooler is sufficient, but needs to be of one of the good one´s and not a cheap cooler like the else påpular Cooler master Evo 212).

 

This i how my old DO I7 920 would clock for bench (for daily use clokked back to 4.1 GHz on air cooling to keep temp in check).

 

I7 920 + single GTX 970

 

I7 920 + GTX 970 SLI

 

It is a D0. Its water cooled.  PUBG is a mess for optimization currently so I'm sure its not the greatest example. For Elite Dangerous I do get a steady 60 at 4k with reshade enabled. I've been fooling around with the HDR module in reshade on all my games. My TV does not support HDR but the module does simulate it. Kinda like DSR for rendering 4k quality in a 1080 display. If I do not use the HDR module (THE COLORS!!!) I'll get closer to 80 with lows dipping into the mid 50's. And in City Skylines I"m able to stay about 60 FPS in 4K all the way up till I hit 35k population, then it starts dropping every few thousand. Lowest I got to was 18 FPS at 4K with a pop of 70k. This was at ultra settings.

 

I've been trying to get my 920 to 4.0 but I've only been able to stay stable at 3.6. I've left it like this for over a year now but been debating jumping back into trying to get a stable 4.0 build. My RAM is 1866 DDR3 but the CPU OC makes it run at around 1600. I don't think that's the stability issue though. Any recommendations on achieving this would be awesome. I'm at 180x20 for bclk. I've tried with a x21 multiplier as a lot of people suggested and even a x19 but anytime I run a stress test, I blue screen. 

 

I just recently looked into getting a 990x. Some people still want over $1,000 USD for one while others seem to be letting it go for as low as $50.

 

The video shows xEVGAx as my GPU software OC. There was a bug that sprung up a while back that would cause the PC to crash upon waking up from standby mode. I have since switched to Afterburner with a lower bclk and memory. Instead of 200/255 I"m dropped it down to 100/155.

 

 

[Intelfreak]

I as well would sujest multiplier 21 and that where also the one i oc with.

 

Unless you can get a I7 980X/990X for very cheap, get a xeon. The only reason i have a I7 980X in sted of a xeon, is because i got it in a complete bundle to a price i cut not say no to. But before you swap your I7 920 out with a 6 core ditto, make sure you have the latest bios for your motherboard.

 

Since you dont say anything about voltage and what motherboard you have its difficult to help

 

But this below here where the settings i used for 4 GHz for some before i moved up to 4.1 GHz. Bios and settings is on a Asus motherboard. But remember you cant just set same voltage cause every cpu clocks diffently and need more or less voltage. So voltage you must find on your own.

 

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

8 years old CPU...modern high-end graphics cards...hell nahh.

[DrQuin04]

16 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

I as well would sujest multiplier 21 and that where also the one i oc with.

 

Unless you can get a I7 980X/990X for very cheap, get a xeon. The only reason i have a I7 980X in sted of a xeon, is because i got it in a complete bundle to a price i cut not say no to. But before you swap your I7 920 out with a 6 core ditto, make sure you have the latest bios for your motherboard.

 

Since you dont say anything about voltage and what motherboard you have its difficult to help

 

But this below here where the settings i used for 4 GHz for some before i moved up to 4.1 GHz. Bios and settings is on a Asus motherboard. But remember you cant just set same voltage cause every cpu clocks diffently and need more or less voltage. So voltage you must find on your own.

 

 

Ah yes, my bad. I tend to over simplify.

Gigabyte x58 UD4P rev 1 with F14p bios

Bclk - 180x20

vcore - 1.275

IOH/ICH - 1.2

cpu pll - 1.88

vdimm - 1.66

uncore - 1.35

[Intelfreak]

9 minutes ago, DrQuin04 said:

Ah yes, my bad. I tend to over simplify.

Gigabyte x58 UD4P rev 1 with F14p bios

Bclk - 180x20

vcore - 1.275

IOH/ICH - 1.2

cpu pll - 1.88

vdimm - 1.66

uncore - 1.35

Vcore is safe to raise up to 1.35 volt.

Multiplier shut be 21

Dont exceed 1.65 volt on memory else you risk of frying cpu memory controller.

Also note UCLK must me at least twice as much as the memory runs. So if memory modules runs 1500 MHz then UCLK must be 3000 MHz or more.

 

But so far try higher vcore and change multiplier to 21. Keep an eye on temp cause rasing voltage also raise temp on CPU cores.

 

This guide maybe also be a good read before going for 4 Ghz or more og and max core temp shut never exceed 80 C. I keep my CPU´s at max 75 C on cores.

 

http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/rmp_i7_920_overclocking

[i_build_nanosuits]

it's funny how people think because it's intel it's automatically good...these CPU's are about on par with AMD FX in terms of IPC and per core performance...if you say FX-8350 with GTX 1070 they scream BOTTLENECK...but then those old ass nehalem cpu's or whatever ''those are sweet CPU's'' no they are not they are old, outdated and slow...sure it's not bad in MULTI_THREAD performance because they have 6c/12t but they have the IPC of an 8 years old CPU...and for gaming they sucks.

 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Xeon-X5650-vs-AMD-FX-8370/m355vs2983

[DrQuin04]

8 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

Vcore is safe to raise up to 1.35 volt.

Multiplier shut be 21

Dont exceed 1.65 volt on memory else you risk of frying cpu memory controller.

Also note UCLK must me at least twice as much as the memory runs. So if memory modules runs 1500 MHz then UCLK must be 3000 MHz or more.

 

But so far try higher vcore and change multiplier to 21. Keep an eye on temp cause rasing voltage also raise temp on CPU cores.

 

This guide maybe also be a good read before going for 4 Ghz or more og and max core temp shut never exceed 80 C. I keep my CPU´s at max 75 C on cores.

 

http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/rmp_i7_920_overclocking

I just tried. My mobo lets me put my multiplier in at 21 but when I save and quit, it boots up into 191x20. Everytime. I looked over your setup and made a couple adjustments. I'm now holding steady at 3.8 and at 45C. 10m stress test held well. Going to conduct a hour long one.

Edited September 6, 2017 by DrQuin04
Finished my thought

[Intelfreak]

25 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

it's funny how people think because it's intel it's automatically good...these CPU's are about on par with AMD FX in terms of IPC and per core performance...if you say FX-8350 with GTX 1070 they scream BOTTLENECK...but then those old ass nehalem cpu's or whatever ''those are sweet CPU's'' no they are not they are old, outdated and slow...sure it's not bad in MULTI_THREAD performance because they have 6c/12t but they have the IPC of an 8 years old CPU...and for gaming they sucks.

 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Xeon-X5650-vs-AMD-FX-8370/m355vs2983

 

Jesus boy. You are comparing a low clock Xeon at only 2.66 GHz vs. 4 GHz AMD cpu. Over clock that Xeon to 4 GHz and it is another story entirely. And there are properly not many running X58 with stock CPU today either.

 

Besides take a look at the scores for my pc then and then tell me again X58 sucks for gaming . In the test CPU is clock in at 4.25 GHz in this test.

 

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/4919204

 

 

[Intelfreak]

25 minutes ago, DrQuin04 said:

I just tried. My mobo lets me put my multiplier in at 21 but when I save and quit, it boots up into 191x20. Everytime. I looked over your setup and made a couple adjustments. I'm now holding steady at 3.8 and at 45C. 10m stress test held well. Going to conduct a hour long one.

So al ready a better result. That´s a good start. If you cant force bios to run multiplier 21, i would try a complete bios reset by pushing clearcmos buttom if your motherboard have one. Else its the hard way by pulling out bios battery for a few minutes.

 

If you cant remember settings, then take a picture of bios settings before reseting bios and 45 C is great. No worry there then yet.

[i_build_nanosuits]

10 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

 

Jesus boy. You are comparing a low clock Xeon at only 2.66 GHz vs. 4 GHz AMD cpu. Over clock that Xeon to 4 GHz and it is another story entirely. And there are properly not many running X58 with stock CPU today either.

 

Besides take a look at the scores for my pc then and then tell me again X58 sucks for gaming . In the test CPU is clock in at 4.25 GHz in this test.

 

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/4919204

 

 

THERE IS overclocked result section on the page as well son.