AMD failed in GPUs ?

[Anas Dweik]

Hi people. 

before anything, I am AMD fan boy.

Amd failed in GPUs in my opinion .

for vega 64 vs Nivdia 1080 .

in most of the benchmarks i watched on youtube Nivdia 1080 is better then vega in Price & performance 

vega 64 600$

1080 500$ 

Vega 16 pin Power  ... 

1080 better in benchmarks and the price and power usage .

 

for vega 56 vs Nivida 1070

in banchmarks 1070 beat vega 56 performance but not the price .

vega 56 400$

Nivida 1070 460$

1070 Better in performance but not price. 60$ Matter for some people for sure . so AMD 56 wins in my opinion for 95% same performance and cheaper 

 

"Newegg prices"

for AMD Radeon pack i think they made it for people who are waiting for cheap Vega prices .

 

That's my opinion anyway. maybe right or wrong .

Is that a big fail for  AMD in GPUs  ? 

Are AMD going to add 100$ for GPUs prices ?? "that's what i heard in some of Youtube channels "

 

For CPUs  AMD: GG WP ez game 

That is my opinion 

"sorry for my bad English "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Orangeator]

Before the mining craze 1070's were going for $350 barely used and 980 TI's were going for $290'ish. Bought my Asus Strix 980 TI for $293.

[Damascus]

1 minute ago, Orangeator said:

Before the mining craze 1070's were going for $350 barely used and 980 TI's were going for $290'ish. Bought my Asus Strix 980 TI for $293.

I got a 1070 with a beastly PCB and  waterblock for 425 CAD mid mining crisis, about 330 USD

[WereCat]

They haven't failed but it definitely is far from a victory.

Vega can be still way more relevant outside of games but that needs further testing.

 

[The Sloth]

5 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Vega can be still way more relevant outside of games but that needs further testing.

 

not at all, if your electricity bill is low and vega 56 is cheaper than a gtx 1070 in your area, go for it, its better than a gtx 1070 in terms of raw performance and on games. 

remember it will be better after driver updates. 

[WereCat]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

not at all, if your electricity bill is low and vega 56 is cheaper than a gtx 1070 in your area, go for it, its better than a gtx 1070. 

 

Definitely. Especially after seeing the Gamers Nexus undervolting results on Vega 56.

My concern is that MSRP for Vega 64 was $500, yet it sells for €600 in my country. GTX 1080 non-reference with good coolers go for around €550.

 

No Vega 56 or prices are available yet but I fear it will be in the €500 range.

[xsimplyjosh]

AMD had faith in the cpu sector but definitely... cannot touch Nvidia in hte GPU sector.

I had my own sentiments, and plunged for a strix 1080ti anyway. Guess what? Maybe a little bit more than my budget but this card does 165hz at 1440p smoothly and that is the icing on the cake for me...

 

Normally ppl will say don't judge power consumption but it does matter for me. Why should I pay more expensive card, for more power usage for something that can't even top the 1080ti? Given they had all this time i was hoping they also best it somewhat but this is kinda mediocre to say the least... Let alone the ASKING PRICE is too damn high for Australians. and our electricity isnt cheap due to the budget bump up in price. so vega is a complete fail at leas tfor me. budget wise i think nvidia even tho slightly more expensive, have their optimization game on deck. and is the reason why i bought it, not because im a fanboy etc...

 

also in summer my room will get hot, so i am not banking in on that either. it wil ljust make the scenario worse

 

gsync monitor was i found relatively good price too at 900aud for pg279q [offer price] with IPS and high frame rate and 1440p normally it retails for 1100-1200aud. so i wasn't too fussed about it. sure some will argue freesync is cheaper but im not banking at the expense of their horrible graphics card efficiency.

 

why i didnt choose vega: playing catch up, higher power consumption, higher price, efficiency is overall at a lower scale... something thats cancerous. literally

 

it doesnt make sense for anyone to buy vega from a standalone perspective if it was me. especially rx 64 is near 1080ti pricing for their blower card, can't imagine premium AIB boards pricing which will elevate cost higher [to be expected]

[naaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

13 hours ago, nerdslayer1 said:

not at all, if your electricity bill is low and vega 56 is cheaper than a gtx 1070 in your area, go for it, its better than a gtx 1070 in terms of raw performance and on games. 

remember it will be better after driver updates. 

like here its $0,05 kw.   its nothing
we pay more for like this "renting power cables/use them" sort of thing.
this month i paid 32$ power and 53$ "rent"

would be more worried about heat output in hotter areas

[Biggerboot]

AMD is winning, but not the gamers.  They know demand is high because of mining, so they don't need to price that competitively.  Of course, that wont be the case forever.

[dfg666]

Seriously who spends $700 for a dead on arrival product?

 

 

 

[gbergeron]

1 hour ago, dfg666 said:

Seriously who spends $700 for a dead on arrival product?

 

 

 

 

I prefer Nvidia over AMD, im disappointed about AMD new vega cards, they are like... 2 years late...

[TheV_Machine]

For me Vega 64 was a deep Dive into the Toilet in a gaming Perspective. But Vega 56 isnt fully released yet and benchmarks between factory new Vega 56 cards and founders edition GTX 1070 Show a slight advantage for the vega. Also, it is, without the mining hypetrain the cheaper Card. Of course you cant compare the new vega 56 with third Party GTX 1070! Conclusion: Vega 64: come in for Mining, any other case you suck; Vega 56: interesting, good card which had the bad luck of entering into a dumb hypetrain. Another thing: of we want more competition on the gpu market and faster development and lower prices are directly Linked to competition, we need to Support AMD now. Yes, their gpus are about a year late, but they bring new technologies Like hbm2 to the market and they promise to be a suitable alternative to Nvidia. But you should Stick to the vega 56, the 64 is more or least wasted money