I want your opinions

[xXBlackIceXx]

Insight on what you guys would do in my situation. (15 y/o, all the cool new tech coming out soon. I want to get out of console gaming. Because my newest system is the 360 should i wait till next year to get a pc? And get an xbox one s/x or get one now.

[sazrocks]

What budget would you have for a pc?

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If you want to get out of console gaming, the last thing I would do is buy another console.

 

That said, I wouldn't get a PC right now either.  SSDs, RAM, and GPUs are all overpriced and might not return to normal for at least another year or more.

[xXBlackIceXx]

3 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

What budget would you have for a pc?j

I already have a plan but 2250$ CAD must include  monitor mouse keyboard and habe a nice color scheme

[xXBlackIceXx]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

If you want to get out of console gaming, the last thing I would do is buy another console.

 

That said, I wouldn't get a PC right now either.  SSDs, RAM, and GPUs are all overpriced and might not return to normal for at least another year or more.

Yea but if im not going super into pc gaming and how could i not game for a year. Im basicly asking should i try to persuade my parents to let me spend the 2 grand for a computer or settle with their 400$ comprromise

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Just now, xXBlackIceXx said:

Yea but if im not going super into pc gaming and how could i not game for a year. Im basicly asking should i try to persuade my parents to let me spend the 2 grand for a computer or settle with their 400$ comprromise

oh, Canada eh?  rip, then throw a 25 - 30% "tax" on top of the problems I already mentioned because of the currency.  I would avoid making large purchases if possible, or you're basically just flushing that difference down the toilet.  It should return to parity or close enough eventually...

[dizmo]

Have you tried listing the other advantages, or lowering the price of your computer? $2.5k is pretty top tier you can easily get a capable gaming PC for half that.

• A PC can be used for school work; writing and researching papers, etc
• A PC is upgradable, and will last longer in the long run.
• Games are cheaper (if you wait a bit, eh, it's a stretch but you never know) on a PC.
• It's a hobby. Hobbies are good.

2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

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  It should return to parity or close enough eventually...

The dollar? Really?

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Just now, dizmo said:

The dollar? Really?

yes

[H0R53]

7 minutes ago, xXBlackIceXx said:

I already have a plan but 2250$ CAD must include  monitor mouse keyboard and habe a nice color scheme

Buy stuff from America, send it to an address in America, then take a drive across the border. It'll be cheaper.

 

You could buy my entire PC probably twice with 2250CAD ($1700USD). I can play Fallout 4 on Ultra.

 

As for color schemes, what are your two favorite colors? Mine are red and blue, so that's what I made my PC.

[dizmo]

Here, this build would be a fair bit cheaper than the one you have in mind. Maybe it'll swing their decision.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($264.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ PC Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($358.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($93.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Monitor: BenQ - XL2411 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($299.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1551.89

 

8 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

yes

You think so? I don't think so. I think that brief glimpse at what parity was like was just that. Brief glimpse.

A strong dollar isn't too wonderful for most of the provinces.

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4 minutes ago, H0R53 said:

Buy stuff from America, send it to an address in America, then take a drive across the border. It'll be cheaper.

I'm not so sure it would be.  Despite how much I complain about the prices here, one thing we don't generally have to deal with is bullshit import fees - if you compare the price there to the price here, it's usually the "same", just accounting for currency conversion.  Places like the UK aren't so lucky...

And that's not even counting the fact you'd have to drive all that way, etc.  Not worth it imo.

[xXBlackIceXx]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I'm not so sure it would be.  Despite how much I complain about the prices here, one thing we don't generally have to deal with is bullshit import fees - if you compare the price there to the price here, it's usually the "same", just accounting for currency conversion.  Places like the UK aren't so lucky...

And that's not even counting the fact you'd have to drive all that way, etc.  Not worth it imo.

Well i live 10 mins from the border. Sooooo 

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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

You think so? I don't think so. I think that brief glimpse at what parity was like was just that. Brief glimpse.

A strong dollar isn't too wonderful for most of the provinces.

"brief glimpse"?  Save for a minor deviation in 2008 it's bee roughly at parity or better since* 2007

(*until the start of the big drop end of 2013)

[xXBlackIceXx]

3 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Here, this build would be a fair bit cheaper than the one you have in mind. Maybe it'll swing their decision.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($264.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ PC Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($358.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($93.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Monitor: BenQ - XL2411 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($299.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1551.89

 

You think so? I don't think so. I think that brief glimpse at what parity was like was just that. Brief glimpse.

A strong dollar isn't too wonderful for most of the provinces.

How long do you think that pc would last? Playing games at medium high settings?

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1 minute ago, xXBlackIceXx said:

How long do you think that pc would last? Playing games at medium high settings?

The 1060 would probably be good for 2, maybe 3 years, at which time you could upgrade it for another $200 - $300, and get probably another 3 years out of the PC for sure.

[xXBlackIceXx]

2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

The 1060 would probably be good for 2, maybe 3 years, at which time you could upgrade it for another $200 - $300, and get probably another 3 years out of the PC for sure.

Well if i could id like to get my dad a workstation rig/family gaming. In 2-3 years so maybe get a 1060. Then in 2 years get a new build? If i could find a damn 1440p monitor with atleast 100hz with gsync for less than 580$ that would be a gamechanger

[H0R53]

8 minutes ago, xXBlackIceXx said:

Well i live 10 mins from the border. Sooooo 

Well, you can save a bunch of money then!

 

Honestly you don't need anything like the 7700K, those are stupidly enthusiast-grade parts.

 

An i5 6600 and a 1060 6G with 12GB RAM would work just fine.

[dizmo]

7 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

"brief glimpse"?  Save for a minor deviation in 2008 it's bee roughly at parity or better since* 2007

(*until the start of the big drop end of 2013)

Aye, but over the last 27 years it's been low more often than high...it's basically returned to "normal".

I made a fair bit of money when it was at parity, but damn I wish I'd invested in USD.

7 minutes ago, xXBlackIceXx said:

How long do you think that pc would last? Playing games at medium high settings?

Years, especially if you're fine with medium.

3 minutes ago, xXBlackIceXx said:

Well if i could id like to get my dad a workstation rig/family gaming. In 2-3 years so maybe get a 1060. Then in 2 years get a new build? If i could find a damn 1440p monitor with atleast 100hz with gsync for less than 580$ that would be a gamechanger

Haha, it's your first PC. Don't try and go all out, especially right now when prices are high.

Do you live close to the border?

[Mooshi]

Haaaaaa~ When I was 15, I had the PS2, Nintendo Gamecube and PC was some crappy HP OEM machine.

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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Aye, but over the last 27 years it's been low more often than high...it's basically returned to "normal".

I made a fair bit of money when it was at parity, but damn I wish I'd invested in USD.

c'mon, we all know "normal" is parity, where it should be  

1 minute ago, Mooshi said:

Haaaaaa~ When I was 15, I had the PS2, Nintendo Gamecube and PC was some crappy HP OEM machine.

Hey, gamecube was actually cool  

[xXBlackIceXx]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Aye, but over the last 27 years it's been low more often than high...it's basically returned to "normal".

I made a fair bit of money when it was at parity, but damn I wish I'd invested in USD.

Years, especially if you're fine with medium.

Haha, it's your first PC. Don't try and go all out, especially right now when prices are high.

Do you live close to the border?

10 mins from the border can you make me a really good looking build then? For pretty cheap? Im trying to get 3 samples to choose from. Anything that will run medium on new games in 2 years. Has to include monitor keyboard and mouse

[H0R53]

12 minutes ago, Mooshi said:

Haaaaaa~ When I was 15, I had the PS2, Nintendo Gamecube and PC was some crappy HP OEM machine.

I grew up with the N64, PS2, and a crap Gateway PC that lasted for ever.

9 minutes ago, xXBlackIceXx said:

10 mins from the border can you make me a really good looking build then? For pretty cheap? Im trying to get 3 samples to choose from. Anything that will run medium on new games in 2 years. Has to include monitor keyboard and mouse

i5 6600, 12GB RAM, and a GTX 1060 6GB.

[TheKDub]

42 minutes ago, xXBlackIceXx said:

Insight on what you guys would do in my situation. (15 y/o, all the cool new tech coming out soon. I want to get out of console gaming. Because my newest system is the 360 should i wait till next year to get a pc? And get an xbox one s/x or get one now.

 

Don't bother with the consoles, get a PC instead. (And by get, I mean build.)

[Mooshi]

7 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Hey, gamecube was actually cool  

Heck yes it was

 

[JakeNTech]

17 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I'm not so sure it would be.  Despite how much I complain about the prices here, one thing we don't generally have to deal with is bullshit import fees - if you compare the price there to the price here, it's usually the "same", just accounting for currency conversion.  Places like the UK aren't so lucky...

And that's not even counting the fact you'd have to drive all that way, etc.  Not worth it imo.

Import tax on everything; I once had to pay the tax on a cable.....apparently that counts as an electronic device.....annoying when the seller told me it was coming from inside the UK.....

44 minutes ago, xXBlackIceXx said:

Insight on what you guys would do in my situation. (15 y/o, all the cool new tech coming out soon. I want to get out of console gaming. Because my newest system is the 360 should i wait till next year to get a pc? And get an xbox one s/x or get one now.

I have a mate in the same boat right now, and to be honest its really not a good time to be buying any computers, second hand its not too bad but still not great, I would hold out as long as possible, but I can't fine the PC part picker list now lol, Ryzen will probably be your best bet.