Posted August 8, 2017 Sup Internet, So I recently upgraded my 6600k to a 6700k because I was able to find one for a pretty decent price on ebay. The chip works fine, no ccomplaints there, but when I started trying to overclock it I noticed that I seemed to need unusually high votages to get even as high as 4.5 of 4.6Ghz. Specifically, I had it dialed up to 1.4v and one of my workers in P95 would still crash when running at 4.6GHz. I've dialed it back to 4.5GHz at around 1.375, but that still seems really high to me. Lower than that though, I get the same problem where one of my cores craps out after just a few seconds of running. The system is stable otherwise as far as I can tell, but obviously I don't want one of my cores failing in the middle of a project. I'm running a Gigabyte G1 Gaming 3 mobo so there I haven't been able to find any option in the bios to run at a constant voltage, a la Linus' skylake OC guide, so I'm not sure if it defaults to running in adaptive mode or whatnot... Oddly enough, when I tried to OC my 6600k I had the same issue as well, one core would just seemingly crap out and the p95 would kill the associated worker. With that in mind, I'm wondering if I'm just doing something wrong when I tweak the voltage in the BIOS...Any thoughts? I7-7700k ASRock Z270 Taichi MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Thermaltake Core P3 Swiftech H320 x2 Long time gamer, first time builder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 First of all... play with LLC (load line calibration) to get better stability on lower voltages. Higher value = less voltage droop (which is what you want). Don't worry to set LLC to is highest value right away. You can then try lower values to try what keeps you stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 What are your temps like? I find stability to degrade beyond about 80C or so. I had systems that were 24/7 Prime95 stable over winter, and they started generating errors when it warmed up. For that reason when running these types of loads I back off the clock and voltage to moderate power thus temperature. Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, RTX 4070, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, random 1080p + 720p displays. Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 Author Ok, I haven't messed with LLC before, what's a safe range I should start out with? I7-7700k ASRock Z270 Taichi MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Thermaltake Core P3 Swiftech H320 x2 Long time gamer, first time builder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 Author 1 minute ago, porina said: What are your temps like? I find stability to degrade beyond about 80C or so. I had systems that were 24/7 Prime95 stable over winter, and they started generating errors when it warmed up. For that reason when running these types of loads I back off the clock and voltage to moderate power thus temperature. My temps are fine. Even when I run short ftt, or whatever the super high temp one is in p95, I only ever hit around 70-75. The "Blend" preset usually gets around mid to high 60s, usual load temps average about 5-10 degrees below that. 360 rad hype. I7-7700k ASRock Z270 Taichi MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Thermaltake Core P3 Swiftech H320 x2 Long time gamer, first time builder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 Prime95 is a bit overkill imo, try something like Asus realbench instead. On topic, it seems like you lost the lottery as badly as me . I need around 1.4v to get 4.6 ghz though 4.5 is doable with 1.3 Make sure to quote me or tag me when responding to me, or I might not know you replied! Examples: Do this: Quote And make sure you do it by hitting the quote button at the bottom left of my post, and not the one inside the editor! Or this: @DocSwag Buy whatever product is best for you, not what product is "best" for the market. Interested in computer architecture? Still in middle or high school? P.M. me! I love computer hardware and feel free to ask me anything about that (or phones). I especially like SSDs. But please do not ask me anything about Networking, programming, command line stuff, or any relatively hard software stuff. I know next to nothing about that. Compooters: Spoiler Desktop: Spoiler CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync) Home Server: Spoiler CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter? Laptop (I use it for school): Spoiler Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050 And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 23 minutes ago, PhysicalVocalist said: Ok, I haven't messed with LLC before, what's a safe range I should start out with? Anything is safe really. Try the max first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 Author 59 minutes ago, DocSwag said: Prime95 is a bit overkill imo, try something like Asus realbench instead. On topic, it seems like you lost the lottery as badly as me . I need around 1.4v to get 4.6 ghz though 4.5 is doable with 1.3 I was hoping that wasn't the answer, but I had definitely seen people talking about getting 4.6 or even 4.7 with only like 1.325 and I was jealous. I have one other chip I can test, but I honestly think that one might be a 7700k...The text on the IHS is super faded and there's a couple surface scratches so it's hard to make out, but I can clearly see "Core i7" and what appears to be 4.2GHz on it. So maybe I lost the silicon lottery, but won the "messed up ebay item" lottery? lol I7-7700k ASRock Z270 Taichi MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Thermaltake Core P3 Swiftech H320 x2 Long time gamer, first time builder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 3 hours ago, PhysicalVocalist said: I was hoping that wasn't the answer, but I had definitely seen people talking about getting 4.6 or even 4.7 with only like 1.325 and I was jealous. I have one other chip I can test, but I honestly think that one might be a 7700k...The text on the IHS is super faded and there's a couple surface scratches so it's hard to make out, but I can clearly see "Core i7" and what appears to be 4.2GHz on it. So maybe I lost the silicon lottery, but won the "messed up ebay item" lottery? lol Yeah you probably just lost it like me. Perhaps the 6700k you got was one of the earlier ones. I've heard the ones from early on during the 6700k's release don't oc as well as later ones (I got mine around a month after release). I guess you probably have a 7700k then Make sure to quote me or tag me when responding to me, or I might not know you replied! Examples: Do this: Quote And make sure you do it by hitting the quote button at the bottom left of my post, and not the one inside the editor! Or this: @DocSwag Buy whatever product is best for you, not what product is "best" for the market. Interested in computer architecture? Still in middle or high school? P.M. me! I love computer hardware and feel free to ask me anything about that (or phones). I especially like SSDs. But please do not ask me anything about Networking, programming, command line stuff, or any relatively hard software stuff. I know next to nothing about that. Compooters: Spoiler Desktop: Spoiler CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync) Home Server: Spoiler CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter? Laptop (I use it for school): Spoiler Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050 And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 Author 38 minutes ago, DocSwag said: I guess you probably have a 7700k then I'll post a photo when I get off work, it's really illegible and the only way I'll know for certain is to slap it into my motherboard and see if it posts since I'm still using a Z170 board. I7-7700k ASRock Z270 Taichi MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Thermaltake Core P3 Swiftech H320 x2 Long time gamer, first time builder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 28 minutes ago, PhysicalVocalist said: I'll post a photo when I get off work, it's really illegible and the only way I'll know for certain is to slap it into my motherboard and see if it posts since I'm still using a Z170 board. Just update bios on your board Make sure to quote me or tag me when responding to me, or I might not know you replied! Examples: Do this: Quote And make sure you do it by hitting the quote button at the bottom left of my post, and not the one inside the editor! Or this: @DocSwag Buy whatever product is best for you, not what product is "best" for the market. Interested in computer architecture? Still in middle or high school? P.M. me! I love computer hardware and feel free to ask me anything about that (or phones). I especially like SSDs. But please do not ask me anything about Networking, programming, command line stuff, or any relatively hard software stuff. I know next to nothing about that. Compooters: Spoiler Desktop: Spoiler CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync) Home Server: Spoiler CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter? Laptop (I use it for school): Spoiler Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050 And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 Author Just now, DocSwag said: Just update bios on your board NGL...I've always been nervous about updating my bios. No reason, never bricked a system, it just worries me a little that I'm gonna screw something up. I really should though, that way I can find out for sure what kind of chip the other one is. Maybe that'll be a weekend project for me. I7-7700k ASRock Z270 Taichi MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Thermaltake Core P3 Swiftech H320 x2 Long time gamer, first time builder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 15 minutes ago, PhysicalVocalist said: NGL...I've always been nervous about updating my bios. No reason, never bricked a system, it just worries me a little that I'm gonna screw something up. I really should though, that way I can find out for sure what kind of chip the other one is. Maybe that'll be a weekend project for me. You honestly shouldn't care. Why? Because your mobo has dual bios. So basically if, on the off chance you manage to screw up your bios update you still have a bios chip on the mobo with a not screwed up bios. I believe that if you try to boot up your pc and you have a screwed up bios the board will automatically replace the screwed up bios with the original correct one. So basically it's pretty hard to brick your board. Make sure to quote me or tag me when responding to me, or I might not know you replied! Examples: Do this: Quote And make sure you do it by hitting the quote button at the bottom left of my post, and not the one inside the editor! Or this: @DocSwag Buy whatever product is best for you, not what product is "best" for the market. Interested in computer architecture? Still in middle or high school? P.M. me! I love computer hardware and feel free to ask me anything about that (or phones). I especially like SSDs. But please do not ask me anything about Networking, programming, command line stuff, or any relatively hard software stuff. I know next to nothing about that. Compooters: Spoiler Desktop: Spoiler CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync) Home Server: Spoiler CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter? Laptop (I use it for school): Spoiler Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050 And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 Author I...did not know that. Sweet! Thanks for the tip my dude, might have to try that tonight then. Just now, DocSwag said: You honestly shouldn't care. Why? Because your mobo has dual bios. So basically if, on the off chance you manage to screw up your bios update you still have a bios chip on the mobo with a not screwed up bios. I believe that if you try to boot up your pc and you have a screwed up bios the board will automatically replace the screwed up bios with the original correct one. So basically it's pretty hard to brick your board. I7-7700k ASRock Z270 Taichi MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Thermaltake Core P3 Swiftech H320 x2 Long time gamer, first time builder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 15, 2017 Author IT WAS A 7700K nice I7-7700k ASRock Z270 Taichi MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Thermaltake Core P3 Swiftech H320 x2 Long time gamer, first time builder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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