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GTX 980 Low Frames

I recently got a second hand EVGA GTX 980 for the low. But I seem to get worse FPS. (Upgrade from a MSI R9 390 OC) So there are a two main games I play. CS GO and BF1. 

 

So a little inside about the monitor set-up I have a ASUS 1440p 144hz freesync monitor. Also I am rocking a i7 4790K 

Also the GTX 980 was overclocked to 1480 MHz core and  1762 MHz Memory 

 

                   BF1             CSGO             Firestrike 

R9 390      55 FPS      285-299 FPS        11,191(13,111 Graphics score) 

GTX 980    64 FPS     170-240 FPS        12,388(14,874 Graphics score) 

 

Sometimes the frame rate will drop to under 100 fps.

I have tried a full AMD driver nuke and reinstalled the Nvidia drivers. Does anyone know what might be going on? Or if any other Nvidia CS GO players want to chime in? 

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Can you use MSI Afterburner and monitor the temps, clock speed during games?

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

did you DDU? 

Yes that was the driver Nuke. 

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

Can you use MSI Afterburner and monitor the temps, clock speed during games?

I used the EVGA PrecisionX and the Temp was steady at 68c and clock speed was 1,480 MHz 

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

i was asking if OP used DDU instead of doing it manually. 

Yes I did DDU. The safe boot uninstall of the amd drivers and install of the Nvidia drivers. 

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9 minutes ago, jnmbhj said:

  170-240 FPS        12,388(14,874 Graphics score) 

 

 

seems about right, not sure what you were expecting. 

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3 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

seems about right, not sure what you were expecting. 

I am not sure why I am getting the lower fps. Something does not seem right. I never get the fps higher than 240 fps. 

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1 minute ago, jnmbhj said:

I am not sure why I am getting the lower fps. Something does not seem right. 

do you have anything running on the background? 

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

do you have anything running on the background? 

skype and chrome. But I tried with chrome off and same fps. The only other thing that is on is the EVGA precisionX software. 

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Just now, jnmbhj said:

skype and chrome. But I tried with chrome off and same fps. The only other thing that is on is the EVGA precisionX software. 

see all your startup apps, turn them all off 

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

see all your startup apps, turn them all off 

The only things I have on is Corsair Link, Razer Synapse, skype and the audio driver.

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OP - Monitor GPU USAGE (Precision/GPUZ)

When your 100fps situation happens, is your GPU outright dropping it's USAGE (should be 97-100%) most of the time unless crippled by software or other hardware.

 

It's USAGE that matters. GPU Clocked high or not,

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Bear in mind, depending on the game you're playing, this is more of a sidegrade than an upgrade. I'd kind of attribute this to CS:GO.

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1 minute ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

OP - Monitor GPU USAGE

When your 100fps situation happens, is your GPU outright dropping it's USAGE (should be 97-100%) most of the time unless crippled by software or other hardware.

nope, CSGO doesn't use 100% GPU all the time, there might be spikes 

 

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3 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

nope, CSGO doesn't use 100% GPU all the time, there might be spikes 

-snip-

 

Yeah, CS:GO will run on a gerbil wheel, but it's still not exactly the paragon of hardware utilization.

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9 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

OP - Monitor GPU USAGE (Precision/GPUZ)

When your 100fps situation happens, is your GPU outright dropping it's USAGE (should be 97-100%) most of the time unless crippled by software or other hardware.

 

It's USAGE that matters. GPU Clocked high or not,

@LooneyJuice @nerdslayer1

 

Checking GPU usage it is hovering around 28-36% CPU usage is around 40-50% 

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2 minutes ago, jnmbhj said:

@LooneyJuice @nerdslayer1

 

Checking GPU usage it is hovering around 28-36% CPU usage is around 40-50% 

 

As a suggestion, you may want to go to the NV Control Panel and make a profile for CS:GO and switch Power Management to "High Performance". It might not do anything, but you may be throttling for some reason as GPU boost can be a bit conservative.

 

I must emphasize that you should only really do this on a per game basis as otherwise you want the GPU to throttle when idling. Don't do it globally.

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

what settings are you using? 

Resolution 2560 x 1440

Display Mode: Fullscreen 

Shadow: High

Model/Texture: Low

Effects: Low

Shader: Low

Multi Core rendering: Enabled

MSAA: Disabled

Texture FIltering: Bilinear 

FXAA: Disabled

V Sync: Disabled

Motion Blur: Disabled 

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12 minutes ago, LooneyJuice said:

 

As a suggestion, you may want to go to the NV Control Panel and make a profile for CS:GO and switch Power Management to "High Performance". It might not do anything, but you may be throttling for some reason as GPU boost can be a bit conservative.

 

I must emphasize that you should only really do this on a per game basis as otherwise you want the GPU to throttle when idling. Don't do it globally.

I just tried this and it has the same result. 

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Just now, jnmbhj said:

I just tried this and it has the same result. 

Yeah figured, which is why I'm attributing this more to CS:GO. Can you confirm that the rest of your games and benches are in order? You should more or less expect a very slight bump in performance.

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Just now, LooneyJuice said:

Yeah figured, which is why I'm attributing this more to CS:GO. Can you confirm that the rest of your games and benches are in order? You should more or less expect a very slight bump in performance.

Yes I tested BF1, BF4 and Battlefront and they all had a FPS bump. 

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1 minute ago, jnmbhj said:

Yes I tested BF1, BF4 and Battlefront and they all had a FPS bump. 

In that case, I wouldn't really hold my breath for any improvements in CS:GO. For some reason or another, it's CS:GO related. 

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