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I have two builds that are basically the same, except one is Intel and one is AMD. Is there any major performance loss in either of these builds, or do they mostly operate the same? (and yes, to shut up all the "go for Ryzen" nuts, if there is no major performance difference i WILL be going Ryzen)

 

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/NovaMan/saved/nyjTWZ

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/NovaMan/saved/xt86hM

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They're probably going to do similar, for now the 7500 might be a tad better for gaming, but that might change. 

 

Personally I'd get the Ryzen setup because it has an upgrade path for the next few years, the 7500 doesn't really unless you go 7700/6700k.

 

I'm not Ryzen biased, I own a 7500.

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The 1500x is definitely better than the 7500. And I agree with the others, graphics cards are pretty pricey right now. Also, do you have more storage? 120GB is not much, especially if you're planning on gaming. You could add a 2TB HDD and still be under $1,000.

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I doubt with the PSU choice. Any upgrades in the future will require a new psu.

 

I pick Ryzen build out of the two.

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Just now, Kobathor said:

The 1500x is definitely better than the 7500. And I agree with the others, graphics cards are pretty pricey right now. Also, do you have more storage? 120GB is not much, especially if you're planning on gaming. You could add a 2TB HDD and still be under $1,000.

I have storage already

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Just now, NovaMan01 said:

I have storage already

Alright, then you're fine. :)

I would recommend changing the PSU if you already have storage. Pretty much any upgrade will call for an 8-pin PCI-E power connector, so I would at least get a 450w. CXM550w is around $50.

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Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Radeon RX 9070 XT | Gigabyte B650M AORUS Elite AX | G.Skill Flare X5 6000MT/s CL36 16GBx2 | 5TB of SSD POWER | EVGA SuperNOVA 850W GT | Noctua NH-U14S | Fractal Design Pop! Mini AirCachyOS

 

Kind Of A Home Lab "Bay":

Ryzen 9 5900XT | Intel ARC A310 | ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS | T-FORCE 3200MT/s 16GBx2 + Corsair 3200MT/s 32GBx2 = 96GB!!! WOW!! | 2TB boot SSD + 8TBx6 HDD RaidZ2 | EVGA SuperNOVA 650W G2 | Phanteks Enthoo Pro M | Ubuntu 24.04 LTS

 

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Just now, NovaMan01 said:

Ill take that into consideration

Yeah, the Ryzen 1600 at stock beats Intel's i7-7700k OC in multi-threaded work loads if I remember correctly... It just better for future proofing your system, plus, the platform of AM4 will last much longer then the 7700k's platform.

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Amd, but don't get that 1060 as its way overpriced.

 

Also get a pny cs1311 instead for the ssd, it's only $1 more and much better.

 

Also you may want to get a bigger psu as 350w doesn't leave much room in the future.

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15 minutes ago, Kobathor said:

Alright, then you're fine. :)

I would recommend changing the PSU if you already have storage. Pretty much any upgrade will call for an 8-pin PCI-E power connector, so I would at least get a 450w. CXM550w is around $50.

My friend already has this PSU so thats why its in my build. Im buying it off him

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11 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Amd, but don't get that 1060 as its way overpriced.

 

Also get a pny cs1311 instead for the ssd, it's only $1 more and much better.

 

Also you may want to get a bigger psu as 350w doesn't leave much room in the future.

A. PNY card is out of stock

B. Read one post up

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2 minutes ago, NovaMan01 said:

A. PNY card is out of stock

B. Read one post up

1. But it's not?... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-cs1311-120gb-internal-sata-solid-state-drive/4825603.p?skuId=4825603&ref=199&loc=8BacdVP0GFs&acampID=1&siteID=8BacdVP0GFs-Zet4mzDMxFhRiJCol4grHA

2. Still doesn't change wattage is kinda low :/ 

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7 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

1. ooooooooooooooooooh i thought you meant PNY 1060 sorry

2. Im more willing to kind of cut a major upgrade path for a lower power PSU because it is readily avaiable. This will most likely be the only components to be in this computer.

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44 minutes ago, NovaMan01 said:

I have two builds that are basically the same, except one is Intel and one is AMD. Is there any major performance loss in either of these builds, or do they mostly operate the same? (and yes, to shut up all the "go for Ryzen" nuts, if there is no major performance difference i WILL be going Ryzen)

 

AMD:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/NovaMan/saved/nyjTWZ

Intel:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/NovaMan/saved/xt86hM

ALRIGHT HERE IS THE SECOND RUN WHAT DO YALL THINK:

AMD:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/NovaMan/saved/3CFQ7P

Intel:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/NovaMan/saved/xt86hM

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9 minutes ago, NovaMan01 said:

Still choose amd :P. I still have some changes though.

 

Get a different mobo like this one. The other one doesn't have vrm heatsinks which isn't the best if you oc.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sfcMnQ/asrock-ab350m-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350m

 

Again my main criticism is on the gpu :P. For that price you could get a used 980 ti which would be muuuccccchhhhh faster (granted you'd need a new psu but still, you could probably get one for $300 or so which would free up money for a better psu). Either that or get a 1060 3gb, this guy is actually in stock.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7bL7YJ/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-windforce-oc-video-card-gv-n1060wf2oc-3gd

 

EDIT: wait you removed the hdd, why?...

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I choose the Ryzen, looking good so far...

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Why do you remove the HDD at the second run?

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8 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Still choose amd :P. I still have some changes though.

 

Get a different mobo like this one. The other one doesn't have vrm heatsinks which isn't the best if you oc.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sfcMnQ/asrock-ab350m-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350m

 

Again my main criticism is on the gpu :P. For that price you could get a used 980 ti which would be muuuccccchhhhh faster (granted you'd need a new psu but still, you could probably get one for $300 or so which would free up money for a better psu). Either that or get a 1060 3gb, this guy is actually in stock.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7bL7YJ/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-windforce-oc-video-card-gv-n1060wf2oc-3gd

 

EDIT: wait you removed the hdd, why?...

There was never one to begin with. I have HDDs already planned outside of the build. 3GB variant wont work for my use case. Is there some other card that might work that doesnt eat power so much?

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2 minutes ago, NovaMan01 said:

There was never one to begin with. I have HDDs already planned outside of the build. 3GB variant wont work for my use case. Is there some other card that might work that doesnt eat power so much?

GTX 980 perhaps? Only 4gb vram but it's more than 3gb.

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CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter?

Laptop (I use it for school):

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