The CIA has been snooping around in your WiFi router

[Delicieuxz]

1 hour ago, Gravesnear said:

He didn't reveal anything we shouldn't have already known. Scientific American had published an article about a year or two before the Snowden release about the technology DARPA developed that the nsa eventually used. When the Snowden thing happened I was like "didn't we already know this?". Let's get this straight, instead of being a whistleblower and staying in the country to face the courts, he ran off to Russia. You think he stays there for free? He's been selling out Americans since he got there. Why do you think the Russians suddenly became so good at electronic infiltration? Why do you think after spending two decades on the DL Russia finally became emboldened in their foreign policy? Snowden sold us out. Zero doubt in my mind. Plenty of whistle blowers have released documents anonymously and safely. Snowden wanted to be famous.

Why do you think Russia "suddenly became so good at electronic infiltration"? To make an assessment of that, you'd have to be aware of previous and current hacking efforts, know that they were by Russia, and observe a notable improvement in methods. But we don't know of any hacking attacks that are proven or well-evidenced to have been by Russia.

 

The emails that the DNC have made a big fuss about weren't sourced by Russia, according to Craig Murray, the person who picked up the leaked emails from their source and delivered them to WikiLeaks (and also Ray McGovern, Julian Assange, and Kim Dotcom.. and also Bill Binney - the architect of the NSA's data-gathering systems). But if those DNC email servers were hacked, then it wouldn't have been a sophisticated hacking job if it appeared to have been done by Russia, since it is normal for professional hackers to leave traces to make their work appear as though it was done by other people, just as the CIA does - which Snowden would have informed Russia of if he told them anything (as if Russia would need to be told that). A hack job that appears to have been done by Russia was not done by Russia. And from what I've read, the DNC email server didn't require expertise to breach, as it was a vulnerable target.

[yathis]

Cut the cord!!!!!!!!!

[handymanshandle]

13 hours ago, Pachuca said:

I like that it's short. Sometimes it's annoying having to read long wordy articles. To each his own

Personally I like medium length articles. More information to be found but not as lengthy or wordy as longer articles. 

 

 

 

Off topic: 

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[Gravesnear]

18 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

Why do you think Russia "suddenly became so good at electronic infiltration"? To make an assessment of that, you'd have to be aware of previous and current hacking efforts, know that they were by Russia, and observe a notable improvement in methods. But we don't know of any hacking attacks that are proven or well-evidenced to have been by Russia.

 

The emails that the DNC have made a big fuss about weren't sourced by Russia, according to Craig Murray, the person who picked up the leaked emails from their source and delivered them to WikiLeaks (and also Ray McGovern, Julian Assange, and Kim Dotcom.. and also Bill Binney - the architect of the NSA's data-gathering systems). But if those DNC email servers were hacked, then it wouldn't have been a sophisticated hacking job if it appeared to have been done by Russia, since it is normal for professional hackers to leave traces to make their work appear as though it was done by other people, just as the CIA does - which Snowden would have informed Russia of if he told them anything (as if Russia would need to be told that). A hack job that appears to have been done by Russia was not done by Russia. And from what I've read, the DNC email server didn't require expertise to breach, as it was a vulnerable target.

I'm not talking about the DNC hacking issue. Russia has been implicated in electronic efforts before the election. If I can find the sources again I'll share them with you, it's been a few years but I used to follow this kind of news pretty closely. Let's also not forget that Snowden got involved with a Russian agent, though he denies sharing anything with her.

[themctipers]

lets hope that my router isn't on the list

 

 

hint hint, its an actual good router provided by my ISP holy shit

 

[vanished]

I guess the answer is to replace everything with opensource software, including routers (pfsense anyone?).

 

Even then, vulnerabilities could exist that don't get discovered until they've been exploited, but at least you can check the code and know what it's doing, and you can be reasonably sure there isn't a conspiracy where the makers are being paid off to not fix known vulnerabilities. 

[H0R53]

15 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Can they still do it if you are running an old WRT 54G with DD WRT on it?

I have one of those. DD WRT is great.

[vorticalbox]

9 hours ago, SC2Mitch said:

I honestly could give two flying fucks if the Government knew of my porn history. I use Tunnel Bear but nothing is 100%.

then your traffic is encrypted end to end there is nothing to see but encrypted packets and local traffic. 

 

point is why should they be allowed to spy on you when they have no reason to be doing it?

[You_are_a_cunt]

Y'all know those "CIA Surveillance Van" joke-posts on the internet? They weren't a joke.

[Ryujin2003]

This article had so little context, it's not even funny. Did they mass hack all routers? Maybe specific ones belonging to specific people, groups , or entities? Give context or nothing at all.

 

And the amount of assumption and speculation without factual supporting documentation is crazy.

 

[Delicieuxz]

1 hour ago, Ryujin2003 said:

This article had so little context, it's not even funny. Did they mass hack all routers? Maybe specific ones belonging to specific people, groups , or entities? Give context or nothing at all.

 

And the amount of assumption and speculation without factual supporting documentation is crazy.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4617244/Leaked-documents-reveal-CIA-hacked-Wi-Fi-routers.html

 

Quote

'The Cherry Blossom (CB) system provides a means of monitoring the internet activity of and performing software exploits on targets of interest,' the document reads.

'In particular, CB is focused on compromising wireless networking devices, such as wireless (802.11) routers and access points (APs), to achieve these goals.'

The firmware is especially effective against some D-Link-made DIR-130 and Linksys-manufactured WRT300N models because they can be remotely infected even if they have a strong administrator password.

 

Here are the documents. It looks to me like they are an instruction manual, so they aren't a record of specific persons they've been used on.