MSI GS63VR or Razer Blade?

[odlaw]

I am having a very tough decision about which laptop to get. I attached a screen grab of the MSI GS63VR (last years model with the i7-6700HQ) priced at $1,350 from iBuyPower. Which has pretty much everything I would want in my laptop components wise. Or should I just spend $500 more and get the New Razer Blade. Which doesn't have all the components of the MSI but has better build quality, and has better thermals. And as Linus has made abundantly clear is his favorite laptop. I am just torn and need some feedback/help in the matter. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

[Pendragon]

Just now, cyanid3 said:

Which doesn't have all the components of the MSI but has better build quality, and has better thermals.

literally has worse build and worse thermals and failing components and backwards engineering. http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/razer-ceo-covering-up-cheap-poor-design-of-razer-notebooks.801443/

 

vrms are placed in a location of high temps that make it susceptible to dying. aluminum coducts heat too well and it's a well documented issue that prolonged sessions cause discoloration on the screen. 

 

so no.

 

the gs63vr is very competitively priced here. not a bad option. 

[Creed1]

MSI makes some pretty solid laptops. I know plenty of people that are happy with them. Mine has a 970m with a 6700hq, but I had to send it in recently due to performance/cooling issues. I have had the issues since I first got the laptop, but never really realized how bad it was. That was just in my case. MSI laptops are generally cool and perform nice. I just got unlucky. 

[The Sloth]

get the msi vr stealth, reinstall windows when you get it. 

[Droidbot]

if you're willing to take an open box product newegg has the gt62vr with a 1070 for $1500

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834154348R&cm_re=gtx_1070_laptop-_-34-154-348R-_-Product

 

or this gigabyte but they are hit and miss on thermals: 

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834233208&cm_re=gtx_1070_laptop-_-34-233-208-_-Product

 

dell outlet isnt working atm but when it starts working again I'd advise you to take a look - they have some brilliant deals on occasion

[odlaw]

2 hours ago, Pendragon said:

literally has worse build and worse thermals and failing components and backwards engineering. http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/razer-ceo-covering-up-cheap-poor-design-of-razer-notebooks.801443/

 

vrms are placed in a location of high temps that make it susceptible to dying. aluminum coducts heat too well and it's a well documented issue that prolonged sessions cause discoloration on the screen. 

 

so no.

 

the gs63vr is very competitively priced here. not a bad option. 

I actually did not know that. Thank you, that is really helpful. This is really swaying me to the MSI.

 

 

2 hours ago, Droidbot said:

if you're willing to take an open box product newegg has the gt62vr with a 1070 for $1500

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834154348R&cm_re=gtx_1070_laptop-_-34-154-348R-_-Product

 

or this gigabyte but they are hit and miss on thermals: 

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834233208&cm_re=gtx_1070_laptop-_-34-233-208-_-Product

 

dell outlet isnt working atm but when it starts working again I'd advise you to take a look - they have some brilliant deals on occasion

So the only issue with the GT62VR is the bulkyness of it. The reason I'm looking at the GS63VR is the slim and light design. I'm trying to get a thin and light travel/gaming laptop. though the G62VR is not a bad laptop. Especially for that price point.

[System Error Message]

i'd pick the MSI mainly because it is a lot cheaper and better quality, and better laptop in general. In my case however i went with alienware because i needed battery life. Had MSI had the option of non gsync monitor i'd have picked it.

[Pendragon]

2 hours ago, System Error Message said:

Had MSI had the option of non gsync monitor i'd have picked it.

they are non-gsync...fyi. 

[System Error Message]

1 minute ago, Pendragon said:

they are non-gsync...fyi. 

not in the UK, i checked as their battery lives were just 2 hours +. UK has very limited options compared to the US. We dont even get AMD GPUs are an option.

[Pendragon]

1 minute ago, System Error Message said:

not in the UK, i checked as their battery lives were just 2 hours +. UK has very limited options compared to the US. We dont even get AMD GPUs are an option.

uhhhh. please link a gsync gs63vr please. MSI has never offered a GS63VR with GSync as far as I remember. also even without GSync the battery life is 3 hours. GS63VR has very poor battery life. 

[System Error Message]

9 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

uhhhh. please link a gsync gs63vr please. MSI has never offered a GS63VR with GSync as far as I remember. also even without GSync the battery life is 3 hours. GS63VR has very poor battery life. 

You are right, its not the gsync monitor, however battery life is still 3 hours so its not as portable as i'd like it to be. Still between the MSI laptops and razor ones, the price and build quality of the razor pushed me away.

[odlaw]

This is all very helpful thank you guys I believe I have made my decision then. Now the only extra question I have is: Would it be worth it to spend another $300 to get the 7700HQ i7 over the 6700HQ?

[The Sloth]

8 minutes ago, cyanid3 said:

another $300 to get the 7700HQ i7 over the 6700HQ?

not worth it 

[odlaw]

2 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

not worth it 

Didn't really think so, most websites I have read say its a 10% increase in performance. And for $300 I felt like that wasn't enough. I believe it is decided then I'm gonna get that MSI through iBuyPower. Thank you all for your help, it truly is appreciated.

[Pittman90]

Right now i am in between the blade and the Gigabyte Aero 15, they are both similarly speced and sadly the same price, like to know what you end up deciding and why, I personally would rather have one of these over the MSI because as a student I dont want something that screams gamer and the msi is much larger.

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07141QMKD/ref=psdc_13896615011_t1_B01N4P5HKV?th=1

[Arika]

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[odlaw]

21 minutes ago, Pittman90 said:

Right now i am in between the blade and the Gigabyte Aero 15, they are both similarly speced and sadly the same price, like to know what you end up deciding and why, I personally would rather have one of these over the MSI because as a student I dont want something that screams gamer and the msi is much larger.

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07141QMKD/ref=psdc_13896615011_t1_B01N4P5HKV?th=1

So my thing is. I can get every component I want. 16GB ram. 120 nvme pcie m.2 ssd. 240 kingston sad. And the laptop weighs less than 4 pounds. With all that it will cost me $1,380. I can't really justify another $500 to have little bit worse components, and a heavier laptop. And the MSI to me doesn't look that awful. 

 

 

A thing I'm debating now is wether to wait for MSI's new ghost pros that will rock a GTX 1070 and 120hz screen.

[TheDankKoosh]

21 minutes ago, cyanid3 said:

So my thing is. I can get every component I want. 16GB ram. 120 nvme pcie m.2 ssd. 240 kingston sad. And the laptop weighs less than 4 pounds. With all that it will cost me $1,380. I can't really justify another $500 to have little bit worse components, and a heavier laptop. And the MSI to me doesn't look that awful. 

 

 

A thing I'm debating now is wether to wait for MSI's new ghost pros that will rock a GTX 1070 and 120hz screen.

The 1070 ghost pros will probably need liquid metal to retain acceptable temp, honestly the current ones need it pretty bad just to keep good temps.

[Suika]

On 6/9/2017 at 11:11 PM, cyanid3 said:

the MSI but has better build quality, and has better thermals.

Don't know where you heard that, but my GS63VR doesn't thermal throttle, unlike the Razer Blade. It's a bit unfair from my system though, since I have the 6700HQ undervolted by like 125mV, but CPU hits 65-70C under AIDA and GPU hits 80C while in game.

[odlaw]

28 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

The 1070 ghost pros will probably need liquid metal to retain acceptable temp, honestly the current ones need it pretty bad just to keep good temps.

Very true. But honestly this isn't going to be my main gaming device. I have a high end desktop that I'll primarily use for gaming. I just want a thin and light that I can travel with easily, play some games on the go. And be able to do some photo editing.

[TheDankKoosh]

1 minute ago, cyanid3 said:

Very true. But honestly this isn't going to be my main gaming device. I have a high end desktop that I'll primarily use for gaming. I just want a thin and light that I can travel with easily, play some games on the go. And be able to do some photo editing.

I would suggest waiting for a 3rd party seller to get them in stock so you can do liquid metal on it.

[Pittman90]

1 hour ago, TheDankKoosh said:

I would suggest waiting for a 3rd party seller to get them in stock so you can do liquid metal on it.

what is this liquid metal? some sort of themal paste or something

[TheDankKoosh]

Just now, Pittman90 said:

what is this liquid metal? some sort of themal paste or something

Liquid metal is exactly how it sounds, it is a liquidized metal mixture that can act as TIM (thermal interface material), but it only needs to be used by advanced users only because it is conductive, so if some gets on your motherboard or any other electrical component it can go down. 

[Pittman90]

2 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

Liquid metal is exactly how it sounds, it is a liquidized metal mixture that can act as TIM (thermal interface material), but it only needs to be used by advanced users only because it is conductive, so if some gets on your motherboard or any other electrical component it can go down. 

Is it really that much better than even good thermal compound like IC diamond or arctic silver

[TheDankKoosh]

55 minutes ago, Pittman90 said:

Is it really that much better than even good thermal compound like IC diamond or arctic silver

It is much better than traditional thermal pastes.