R7 hype.

[LUUD18]

1 minute ago, tlink said:

yet none of the benchmarks you showed had an r5 in it lmao

Because R7 should be better then R5?

[Mooshi]

1080p. This invalidates this thread since going beyond that with fast ram is moot rn.

 

Judging by responses to a member with an INTEL 2600k implying they are an AMD fanboy.. lmao what?

 

Have 2 systems in the bedroom, a 6700k build I gave to my girlfriend and the Ryzen 1600 build I did recently. Instead of being a nerd online, I just play games with friends and her of course. Who the F cares if someone runs Intel or AMD this gen?

[Blebekblebek]

3 minutes ago, DrMikeNZ said:

The 6900K is vastly superior to the 7700K in every way, any claims otherwise is falsified or cherry picked mainstream CPU fanboy nonsense!

 - HEDT fanboy

I only look at his benchmark.

playing along with his agenda.

[tlink]

Just now, LUUD18 said:

Because R7 should be better then R5?

and the i7 6900k should be better than the i7 7700k? don't be ridiculous.

[LUUD18]

Just now, tlink said:

and the i7 6900k should be better than the i7 7700k? don't be ridiculous.

But the Ryzen 7 IS better then the R5.

[Blebekblebek]

4 minutes ago, LUUD18 said:

 

Just watch some topic on here for example:

 

 

link of the thread pls?

[tlink]

Just now, LUUD18 said:

But the Ryzen 7 IS better then the R5.

that isn't the point. you tried to invalidate a claim you quoted yet you didn't even include it in the benchmarks.

[Blebekblebek]

Just now, LUUD18 said:

But the Ryzen 7 IS better then the R5.

but your point is Intel is better.

[Flavio hc 16]

4 minutes ago, LUUD18 said:

Where can you see it's day one benchmarks?

 

I am only talking about the i7 because people are saying it's obsolete.

 

Why does hz matter?

 

I agree that r7 will have a longer life but most people replace their cpu after ~5 years anyway.

where can you find non-day-one benchmarkcs of the 1800x? now that everyone and their dogs knows that the 1700 can be overclocked to the same frequency of the 1800x for 170$ less ( i 7700k price also), no one use it

Also i know the sites where you picked those benchmarks, so i know that those are day benches.

 

Screen hz matters because is almost pointless to have a game running on at 120fps on a 60 hz screen. Ryzen for is "low frequency" and ipc disadvantage ( even if it is a small one= has problem going over 100hz on a lot of games, but if you play at 4k on a 1080ti, ryzen is a way better buy

 

 

 

[LUUD18]

Just now, Blebekblebek said:

but your point is Intel is better.

I am not saying that at all. I am just saying that the i7 7700k is still the best gaming processor for some games.

[GrayTech]

The i7 7700K delivers better gaming performance in almost every game at the moment. I don't want to deny this. But when you compare the Ryzen 5 lineup with the i5s the story is a bit different. People with CPUs in this price range don't often own the highest end GPUs and therefore the GPU limits your fps the most. And if gaming is the only thing you do with your system, then Intel seems like a good choice. I'll benifit from having more cores so Ryzen is a better choice then an i5 in my case.

And I'll keep saying that people should check out Ryzen, not because I'm a fanboy (I'm not a fanboy. I don't care about Intel vs AMD vs Nvidia, I'll buy the CPU or GPU which works best for what I want to do with it.) but because I don't want other people to be a fanboy. Some people don't even look at AMD CPUs and theny they want to buy an i5 for video editing and streaming. And I want that they at least check out AMDs Ryzen lineup. I really do hate fanboys. I can understand when someone says for example that he has really good experience with a motherboard brand for example and that's why he wants to get a board from this brand. The difference between motherboards in the same price range isn't that big I would say. But when someone would beifit form having more cores and more threads and they still want to buy an i5 instead of a Ryzen 5 because the Ryzen CPU isn't made by Intel, then I don't even feel sorry for them. They will have fun running only 4 cores while they could have gotten a 6 core 12 thread CPU. But if you benifit from faster cores, then go ahead and buy an Intel CPU.

[tom_w141]

18 minutes ago, LUUD18 said:

I am responding on a message of him telling me to go away now.

You are breaking the forum rules by posting with little knowledge and deliberate intent to start a flame war

 

As others have said you have cherry picked day 1 benches that are no longer relevant, no one has said the 7700k isn't good at 1080p gaming. I don't think anyone is saying the 7700k is obsolete. If all you do is gaming its a great CPU but if you do literally anything else + gaming then the cheaper 1700 is the better buy. The 7700k also has its own issues by getting extremely hot when overclocking due to its poor TIM application that Intel refuse to address. As others have said the R5 1600 absolutely destroys any reason to buy the more expensive 7600k (which is maxed out by modern titles at constant 95-100% usage), the i5 isn't dead but 4 core 4 thread processors are. Intel need to get their head out of their ass and change what an i5 is in the future, a 6 core 6 thread perhaps? Or drop the price by >$100. Its ironic that near every response proves how little you know about the subject.

[mr moose]

I miss Cyrix

[LUUD18]

1 minute ago, GrayTech said:

The i7 7700K delivers better gaming performance in almost every game at the moment. I don't want to deny this. But when you compare the Ryzen 5 lineup with the i5s the story is a bit different. People with CPUs in this price range don't often own the highest end GPUs and therefore the GPU limits your fps the most. And if gaming is the only thing you do with your system, then Intel seems like a good choice. I'll benifit from having more cores so Ryzen is a better choice then an i5 in my case.

And I'll keep saying that people should check out Ryzen, not because I'm a fanboy (I'm not a fanboy. I don't care about Intel vs AMD vs Nvidia, I'll buy the CPU or GPU which works best for what I want to do with it.) but because I don't want other people to be a fanboy. Some people don't even look at AMD CPUs and theny they want to buy an i5 for video editing and streaming. And I want that they at least check out AMDs Ryzen lineup. I really do hate fanboys. I can understand when someone says for example that he has really good experience with a motherboard brand for example and that's why he wants to get a board from this brand. The difference between motherboards in the same price range isn't that big I would say. But when someone would beifit form having more cores and more threads and they still want to buy an i5 instead of a Ryzen 5 because the Ryzen CPU isn't made by Intel, then I don't even feel sorry for them. They will have fun running only 4 cores while they could have gotten a 6 core 12 thread CPU. But if you benifit from faster cores, then go ahead and buy an Intel CPU.

Thanks someone who keeps calm and explains it will. I do agree that people should look at Ryzen but some people are telling other people not to look at i7's anymore. That is what bothers me.

[KuJoe]

I really hope whichever mod closes this thread is running an AMD CPU.

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, GrayTech said:

The i7 7700K delivers better gaming performance in almost every game at the moment. I don't want to deny this. But when you compare the Ryzen 5 lineup with the i5s the story is a bit different. People with CPUs in this price range don't often own the highest end GPUs and therefore the GPU limits your fps the most. And if gaming is the only thing you do with your system, then Intel seems like a good choice. I'll benifit from having more cores so Ryzen is a better choice then an i5 in my case.

And I'll keep saying that people should check out Ryzen, not because I'm a fanboy (I'm not a fanboy. I don't care about Intel vs AMD vs Nvidia, I'll buy the CPU or GPU which works best for what I want to do with it.) but because I don't want other people to be a fanboy. Some people don't even look at AMD CPUs and theny they want to buy an i5 for video editing and streaming. And I want that they at least check out AMDs Ryzen lineup. I really do hate fanboys. I can understand when someone says for example that he has really good experience with a motherboard brand for example and that's why he wants to get a board from this brand. The difference between motherboards in the same price range isn't that big I would say. But when someone would beifit form having more cores and more threads and they still want to buy an i5 instead of a Ryzen 5 because the Ryzen CPU isn't made by Intel, then I don't even feel sorry for them. They will have fun running only 4 cores while they could have gotten a 6 core 12 thread CPU. But if you benifit from faster cores, then go ahead and buy an Intel CPU.

People that don't even look/consider the other brand are literally the worst people and deserve to waste their money. (Looking at you people paying double for X299 CPUs/Motherboards for under 10% gains)

[Blebekblebek]

1 minute ago, LUUD18 said:

I am not saying that at all.

are you illiterate?

How can you say that you not say it and say it at the same time?

 

and then proceed

Quote

I am just saying that the i7 7700k is still the best gaming processor for some games.

 

[KuJoe]

3 minutes ago, LUUD18 said:

Thanks someone who keeps calm and explains it will. I do agree that people should look at Ryzen but some people are telling other people not to look at i7's anymore. That is what bothers me.

I tried finding an Intel CPU for gaming, I really tried. The only Intel CPU somebody could suggest to me was a used i7 4770 that was still more expensive than the Ryzen 1500X.

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, LUUD18 said:

Thanks someone who keeps calm and explains it will. I do agree that people should look at Ryzen but some people are telling other people not to look at i7's anymore. That is what bothers me.

I have not seen a single post on this forum advising against an i7 Unless:

 

- An R5 would allow a better GPU for their budget

- They also do some kind of workstation/content creation making the 1600/1700 a more well rounded purchase for all their needs.

[GrayTech]

Just now, LUUD18 said:

Thanks someone who keeps calm and explains it will. I do agree that people should look at Ryzen but some people are telling other people not to look at i7's anymore. That is what bothers me.

I7s are still worth it in my opinion. But i5s aren't that good of a deal anymore for most people. Thats why I would consider them as almost dead. With that I mean that most poeple woule either benifit from having more cores or the reduction in performance is so small that the Ryzen CPU will allow them to do more multitasking in the future. But I also mean that if you are the person who would still benifit from Intel, then buy it.

[Mooshi]

Ultimately, the 7700k is just a 6700k with BS 4k Netflix DRM and bad TIM while Ryzen destroyed their last gen counterparts. Only a fanboy can defend a 7700k as the Intel gaming chip with the 6700k being a better choice if gaming is the only focus on the Intel side.

 

No one should have to delid a cpu because a billion dollar company couldn't be assed to use better cooling material haha

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, DeezNoNos said:

WHY CAN I STILL COMMENT ON THIS. HOW DID IT NOT GET LOCKED INSTANTLY. MOOOODDDDSSS WHERE ARE UUUUUUUU

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Maybe the mods have logged out and are watching this unfold with a TON of popcorn. I don't know

 

True I'm wondering why this is still open  

[astrosheen]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

True I'm wondering why this is still open  

I just looked and it seems like there are no mods online

[Space Reptile]

4 minutes ago, Blebekblebek said:

~snip~

"i didnt say ist better , im saying its the BEST "

[Blebekblebek]

1 minute ago, Space Reptile said:

"i didnt say ist better , im saying its the BEST "

so was that dummy account?

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