FX 6300 stuck at 1.3 Ghz

[CALBIX]

Hi guys,

My friend has been having some problems recently with his pc.

We have formatted his pc and he says he gets 40-60 fps on low on overwatch which is really bad.

I would like to know why the CPU stays at 1.3 and does not boost at all?

If you guys can give any advise on how to fix the low fps, that would be amazing

 

His specs:

FX 6300

MSi 970 motherboard

GTX 760

8GB HyperX ram

3 TB of storage

[DocSwag]

Temps?

[Billy_Mays]

Temps?

[GirlFromYonder]

Yup, TEMPS

[CALBIX]

1 minute ago, DeezNoNos said:

Yup, TEMPS

 

2 minutes ago, Billy_Mays said:

Temps?

 

3 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Temps?

Ok, Ill report back once he has done everything

[Blebekblebek]

at 1,3ghz it's either throttle so hard because overheat

or it's getting downclocked.

 

go to bios, set default for everything, reboot and back to bios again to monitor the temp.

and start from there.

[CALBIX]

Just now, Blebekblebek said:

at 1,3ghz it's either throttle so hard because overheat

or it's getting downclocked.

 

go to bios, set default for everything, reboot and back to bios again to monitor the temp.

and start from there.

If he goes to bios the temp is 34c

[DocSwag]

3 minutes ago, CALBIX said:

If he goes to bios the temp is 34c

What about when he starts gaming?

[CALBIX]

Just now, DocSwag said:

What about when he starts gaming?

He is busy testing

[Tiwaz]

3 minutes ago, CALBIX said:

If he goes to bios the temp is 34c

ingame temps? Though AMDs shouldnt throttle back unless they hit 90°C. Could also be an issue witht he BIOS, but we would like to get AIDA64 or ingame temps. On CPU-Z and HWmonitor you can see the real time clock speed at that exact moment

[CALBIX]

Just now, DocSwag said:

What about when he starts gaming?

when his cpu is idle he gets 29c

[Fluffybakon]

Check to see if he needs to update his bios. 

 

(also never buy an fx processor again)

 

-Lukas

[Blebekblebek]

Why over complicate things?

See the FSB clock, Multiplier, etc

or try to set default bios first. Did you do that?

[agent_x007]

5 minutes ago, Tiwaz said:

ingame temps? Though AMDs shouldnt throttle back unless they hit 90°C. Could also be an issue witht he BIOS, but we would like to get AIDA64 or ingame temps. On CPU-Z and HWmonitor you can see the real time clock speed at that exact moment

They throttle A LOT faster when VRM/MOSFET temps are involved.

[Tiwaz]

1 minute ago, agent_x007 said:

They throttle A LOT faster when VRM/MOSFET temps are involved.

well yea, you are right, the 970 chipset has a really bad power delivery compared to the 990 fx motherboards for the AM3+ cpus. Good chance that he doesnt any heatsinks on the VRMs, though as long as you dont overclock any of those motherboards should be able to run that CPU just fine i mean all the FX cpus eat at least 95W

[Damascus]

Go to Bios and reset

[agent_x007]

Just now, Tiwaz said:

well yea, you are right, the 970 chipset has a really bad power delivery compared to the 990 fx motherboards for the AM3+ cpus. Good chance that he doesnt any heatsinks on the VRMs, though as long as you dont overclock any of those motherboards should be able to run that CPU just fine i mean all the FX cpus eat at least 95W

Not really, there are AM3+ capable boards that don't support FX-6000 series because of bad VRM design (that's based on CPU Support pages).
Also, more than OC for those VRMs, actual Airflow in case is most important thing.
If he uses low RPM fan on tower-type cooler for CPU and a low RPM case fan at the back of it, airflow over VRM will be minimal (which may cause problems).

[Tiwaz]

2 minutes ago, agent_x007 said:

Not really, there are AM3+ capable boards that don't support FX-6000 series because of bad VRM design (that's based on CPU Support pages).
Also, more than OC for those VRMs, actual Airflow in case is most important thing.
If he uses low RPM fan on tower-type cooler for CPU and a low RPM case fan at the back of it, airflow over VRM will be minimal (which may cause problems).

since when do manufacturers expect that someone is going to run such a low performance cpu in anything but a small shitty case that came with a prebuilt system?

[CALBIX]

27 minutes ago, Fluffybakon said:

Check to see if he needs to update his bios. 

 

(also never buy an fx processor again)

 

-Lukas

 

25 minutes ago, Blebekblebek said:

Why over complicate things?

See the FSB clock, Multiplier, etc

or try to set default bios first. Did you do that?

 

23 minutes ago, agent_x007 said:

They throttle A LOT faster when VRM/MOSFET temps are involved.

 

21 minutes ago, Tiwaz said:

well yea, you are right, the 970 chipset has a really bad power delivery compared to the 990 fx motherboards for the AM3+ cpus. Good chance that he doesnt any heatsinks on the VRMs, though as long as you dont overclock any of those motherboards should be able to run that CPU just fine i mean all the FX cpus eat at least 95W

 

18 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Go to Bios and reset

 

15 minutes ago, agent_x007 said:

Not really, there are AM3+ capable boards that don't support FX-6000 series because of bad VRM design (that's based on CPU Support pages).
Also, more than OC for those VRMs, actual Airflow in case is most important thing.
If he uses low RPM fan on tower-type cooler for CPU and a low RPM case fan at the back of it, airflow over VRM will be minimal (which may cause problems).

 

12 minutes ago, Tiwaz said:

since when do manufacturers expect that someone is going to run such a low performance cpu in anything but a small shitty case that came with a prebuilt system?

I shall try all of these and report back, he just dissapeard on discord so Ill tel him thx

[Tiwaz]

1 hour ago, Strike105X said:

 

yea but easily 99% of all 970 boards pretty much suck ass

[CALBIX]

23 minutes ago, Tiwaz said:

yea but easily 99% of all 970 boards pretty much suck ass

 

1 hour ago, Strike105X said:

People need to understand that chipsets have nothing to do with power delivery in fact the Asus 970FX gaming aura has one of the best power delivery for FX cpu's and it uses the 970 chipset. There's motherboards with crappy power delivery and 990FX chipsets out there as well.

 

It looks like a problem with the power delivery from the motherboard, which MSI 970 motherboard are we talking about ? If its the Krait then there's no surprise, it has a horrible power delivery.

Ok lets say his CPU sits at 67c when gaming whats wrong then?

[Tiwaz]

1 minute ago, CALBIX said:

 

Ok lets say his CPU sits at 67c when gaming whats wrong then?

67°C is good

[CALBIX]

Just now, Tiwaz said:

67°C is good

How do I test the power delivery? He is busy cleaning the GPU.

[Tiwaz]

30 minutes ago, CALBIX said:

How do I test the power delivery? He is busy cleaning the GPU.

well instability is usually the result of insufficient power or overheating VRMs as far as I know. 

[-rascal-]

A questions...

 

1) WHICH "MSi 970 motherboard" is it?

 

MSi makes a lot of 970 chipset based motherboards, and a large portion of them have a weak VRM / power phase system (e.g. 3+1 or 4+1 with no heatsink cooling, or thermal protection).  To name a few...

• MSi 970A-G43
• 970A-G46

They also have a few higher quality 970 boards as well, such as

• MSi 970 GAMING
• MSi 970 Gaming Pro Carbon

Both with a 6+2 VRM system, heatsinks over the VRM for passive cooling, active VRM protection, multi-transistor configurations, etc.

 

 

2) Is you friend running games / programs on FULL SCREEN?

 

NOT Windowed Mode. NOT borderless.

FULL. SCREEN.

 

 

3) Is any other part of the system overheating?

 

Aside from the CPU, VRM / motherboard, what is the temperature of the GTX 760?

Does his computer case have adequate airflow?

 

 

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As already mentioned by somebody else, the motherboard chipset does not determine the VRM configuration of the motherboard. That said, out of the three 900 series chipsets available for socket AM3+, 970 is the budget oriented one (990FX, 990X, 970). For that reason, most 970 have lower quality VRM's to keep the costs down.

 

A 990FX chipset motherboard does not necessarily mean it WILL 100% have a good VRM system, and cooling.

 

Gigabyte GA-990FX-Gaming (launched in early 2016)

• Advertised as 10-phase (e.g. 8+2) VRM, but ACTUALLY uses PWM 'doublers', so not too much better than an ordinary 4+1.

AsRock 990FX Extreme3

• Sleazy 3+1 VRM with an extremely small heatsink...990FX and SB950 chipset heatsinks aren't much better, too. 

AsRock Fatal1ty 990FX Killer (/3.1)

• Again, like the Gigabyte motherboard, it is advertised as a 8+2 VRM system, but 'doublers' are used. It is really a 4+1 phase controller with two built-in drivers handling a pair of MOSFETs.