Intel leak

[C:\\Mat]

So apparently along with the Ryzen 9 leak, Intel also leaked the i9 7920K, a Skylake-X proccessor with 12 cores 24 threads. 

Moving on to i9? 

http://www.pcgamer.com/intel-core-i9-leak-points-to-intels-first-new-processor-line-in-years/

 

But what is this for? Logically, it's probably to counter AMD's Ryzen, but how? The 6950x is $1700(or whatever it is now after the apparent price drop), so I don't think adding 2 more cores and more threads is going to help that....

 

Any ideas?

[tom_w141]

i9 was posted before R9 its already in tech news and reviews forum with plenty of speculation.

 

To answer your question the R9 aka Whitehaven is rumoured to be a 16 core so it will crush the 12 core at half the price. If the i9 stuff is true and Intel stick with their mad pricing then the Whitehaven processors will crush it, except maybe in single core IPC but if you are using single core performance as a metric why would you be buying a 12-16 core anyway...

[Ordinarily_Greater]

Hmm, i think however AMD is gonna humiliate intel by the stock beast cooler they planned

[C:\\Mat]

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

i9 was posted before R9 its already in tech news and reviews forum with plenty of speculation

Speculated? Maybe

Before i9? Definitely

But nothing really got confirmed until around Saturday. 

[Princess Luna]

Personally I think the name "i9" is stupid

 

Could have stayed with i7 but whatever.

[Syfter]

6 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

Hmm, i think however AMD is gonna humiliate intel by the stock beast cooler they planned

I have a feeling regardless a lot of people will still use or buy aftermarket coolers.

[Ordinarily_Greater]

I think this moment is weird, from Ransomware, AMD and Intel starts high end CPU war. Aren't they crazy enough?

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

Hmm, i think however AMD is gonna humiliate intel by the stock beast cooler they planned

I doubt these models will come with a stock cooler as they will have a large TDP so that's a rather pointless answer  Any way CPU price/performance matters way more than a cooler

[tom_w141]

5 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

I think this moment is weird, from Ransomware, AMD and Intel starts high end CPU war. Aren't they crazy enough?

How is the ransomware in anyway related to CPUs? Both companies will continue to develop new products all the time.

[tom_w141]

11 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Personally I think the name "i9" is stupid

 

Could have stayed with i7 but whatever.

Having a separate name for their HEDT product stack makes a lot of sense and should have been done ages ago, I agree maybe not i9 but they should not be both called i7s

[tom_w141]

14 minutes ago, DasBassDropz said:

Speculated? Maybe

Before i9? Definitely

But nothing really got confirmed until around Saturday. 

My point was this is a repost.

[Ordinarily_Greater]

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

I doubt these models will come with a stock cooler as they will have a large TDP so that's a rather pointless answer  Any way CPU price/performance matters way more than a cooler

It says it'll be at 155W, 32 threads. Server grade?

[tom_w141]

Just now, Ordinarily_Greater said:

It says it'll be at 155W, 32 threads. Server grade?

Yeah that just further confirms my point... There won't be a stock cooler included with these.

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Having a separate name for their HEDT product stack makes a lot of sense and should have been done ages ago, I agree maybe not i9 but they should not be both called i7s

A different naming... sure but like you said and it's what I feel, saying "i9" sounds so off... probably because we're not used to it but they could have thought a bit harder on the name even a silly Intel Core i-Pro would have sounded better

 

Besides it should have been i9 7920x not k if we really wanted to distinguished them like has always been.

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

A different naming... sure but like you said and it's what I feel, saying "i9" sounds so off... probably because we're not used to it but they could have thought a bit harder on the name even a silly Intel Core i-Pro would have sounded better

 

Besides it should have been i9 7920x not k if we really wanted to distinguished them like has always been.

Yeah but X's are hot right now  You can add more money with an X *looks at Ryzen*

[PCGuy_5960]

24 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

To answer your question the R9 aka Whitehaven is rumoured to be a 16 core so it will crush the 12 core at half the price.

Are you sure about that....? I mean, there's a good chance that the i9s will be able to overclock to 5GHz+... And since Whiteheaven is based on Naples, I doubt it will overclock well. So I don't think the R9 will crush the i9, especially in games...

[Ordinarily_Greater]

15 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

I doubt these models will come with a stock cooler as they will have a large TDP so that's a rather pointless answer  Any way CPU price/performance matters way more than a cooler

We will need an avtur

[done12many2]

Speculation is so fun!!

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

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If I had to guess this chip is going to lie down between 4.6~4.8ghz stable across all cores overclock, I don't really see it reaching 5ghz on "only" 140w TDP, but yeah if I had to bet this is probably going to be the highest end chip for a while AMD won't be able to top it even though it's 16 cores r9 processor.

 

The Core i9-7820X: 8C/16T, 3.6GHz to 4.3GHz, 11MB cache, 140W, 28 PCIe lanes  on the other hand will surely be a Ryzen 7 1800x killer with 5ghz overclock easy.

 

Gotta wait for the price tags though, Intel is not going to make any thing cheaper I'm sure...

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Gotta wait for the price tags though, Intel is not going to make any thing cheaper I'm sure...

I am almost certain that the 6C and 8C CPUs will be only a bit more expensive than their AMD competitors... The 10C and 12C models will be expensive AF because AMD doesn't have a 10C or a 12C CPU (for now at least)

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I am almost certain that the 6C and 8C CPUs will be only a bit more expensive than their AMD competitors... The 10C and 12C models will be expensive AF because AMD doesn't have a 10C or a 12C CPU (for now at least)

Yeah.... the Core i7-7640K: 4C/4T, 4GHz to 4.2GHz, 6MB cache, 112W, 16 PCIe lanes  though is probably going to compete with the i3 7350k as the most useless no-one should buy chip

[done12many2]

6 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Yeah.... the Core i7-7640K: 4C/4T, 4GHz to 4.2GHz, 6MB cache, 112W, 16 PCIe lanes  though is probably going to compete with the i3 7350k as the most useless no-one should buy chip

 

Some folks will buy it as a place holder until they are able to buy a higher core part.  

 

Others like overclockers/benchmarkers will by it so that they have multiple options on the same platform.  They will have the ability to run 12c / 24t parts when a benchmark favors threads and 4c / 8t parts when a benchmark favors high single threaded performance.

 

Intel is smart in providing an option that will allow some mainstream folks to cross over into HEDT / Extreme series.

[tom_w141]

1 hour ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Are you sure about that....? I mean, there's a good chance that the i9s will be able to overclock to 5GHz+... And since Whiteheaven is based on Naples, I doubt it will overclock well. So I don't think the R9 will crush the i9, especially in games...

You conveniently ignored half of my post  The other half says IPC and single core performance will be stronger but no one should be buying a 12-16 core CPU for single threaded tasks/gaming therefore making your comment rather invalid.

 

And yes it was there not edited in after this  

[done12many2]

13 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

You conveniently ignored half of my post  The other half says IPC and single core performance will be stronger but no one should be buying a 12-16 core CPU for single threaded tasks/gaming therefore making your comment rather invalid.

 

And yes it was there not edited in after this  

 

The fact of the matter is there are plenty of people who buy high core count CPUs for gaming AND workstation type tasks.  That single threaded performance not only impacts gaming, but the day in and day out feel of a system.  High single-threaded performance makes daily tasks light and snappy.  My 7700k is nothing short of amazing when it comes to daily use and gaming.  My 5960x is also great for gaming, but you can definitely notice the difference in single-threaded performance.

 

With Skylake-X you'll have both.  High single and multi-threaded performance.  When building HEDTs, you really shouldn't have to sacrifice one for the sake of another.  

[typographie]

2 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Could have stayed with i7 but whatever.

They could have just stayed with the Core 2 branding, if you want to look at it that way.

 

I personally think it makes a lot of sense to have a unique name for the pro/prosumer series of processors. "i3" and "i5" have a reasonably consistent meaning associated with them, but right now "i7" is a diluted catch-all term for everything between $350 and $1700. It's not a useful identifier if it applies to products so drastically different from one another. We enthusiasts already have to tell them apart by the 7700K/6900K/6950X digits or socket name anyway, and casual consumers have no idea why one i7 is different from another if Intel gives them no easy guideline to follow.