Hold on. Ryzen 9??

[DnFx91]

this might be bad, are we saying that there will be CPU's for sale with the prefix "R9" ? 

 

i assumed they avoided this for good reason, or at least assumed that R9 might be saved for the Zen APU's

[LienusLateTips]

 .I think I know why they switched to RX on GPU.

 

Radeon R9 inside

Ryzen R9 inside

 

 

[The Benjamins]

15 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

And that is what you will pay extra for, official backing from the motherboard oem. This is how electronics works, you don't get all the nice things unless you add an extra 0 on the price tag

 

I never said it was going to be no extra cost, I think a 50% premium over the 1800x core price is reasonable.

 

you think they will have a higher then 70% premium for price per core after going beyond 8 cores?

Intels 8 core had a 45% premium over the 4 core part. even if it has the price premium of the 6900x (100%) had it would be $2000 for the 16 core part, $300 more then intels 10 core part. I can't see AMD getting away with such high premiums like intel can.

so a 1800x is $500 for 8 cores, $500 x 2 + 50% price premium is $1500. which seems like a good guess. they can even do a 100% premium and still beat intel.

and remember they sell a $330 8 core too (that calculated to 16 cores with a 100% premium is $1320)

[SCHISCHKA]

1 hour ago, The Benjamins said:

 

I never said it was going to be no extra cost, I think a 50% premium over the 1800x core price is reasonable.

 

you think they will have a higher then 70% premium for price per core after going beyond 8 cores?

Intels 8 core had a 45% premium over the 4 core part. even if it has the price premium of the 6900x (100%) had it would be $2000 for the 16 core part, $300 more then intels 10 core part. I can't see AMD getting away with such high premiums like intel can.

so a 1800x is $500 for 8 cores, $500 x 2 + 50% price premium is $1500. which seems like a good guess. they can even do a 100% premium and still beat intel.

and remember they sell a $330 8 core too (that calculated to 16 cores with a 100% premium is $1320)

Ah American prices. In nz it differently because of consumption taxes. 

I do not think it will be a scale with the R7 because it will be enterprise grade. I just had a look on Wikipedia and the Xeon at those high core counts are between 8 to 12k so I think the top end will be less than 8k dropping down to similar prices for the bottom end with Xeon 

had a look at opterons on wikipedia; piledriver went from $300 to $1300 for 16 cores, so I reckon based off this and the extra performance of ryzen, the R9 might be as high as 2x piledriver opteron so $2600 which is still 1/4 the price of intels top line, so could cost even more.

tldr my prediction between $2600 to $8000

[C:\\Mat]

1 hour ago, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

So basically i9 confirmed? #AlwaysCompeting 

You r right. i9 7920x was also leaked. 12 core 24 thread, but no clock speeds yet

 

Edit: Found out about i9 from this http://www.techradar.com/news/intel-turns-up-the-dial-to-core-i9-with-new-processors

 

[The Benjamins]

1 minute ago, SCHISCHKA said:

Ah American prices. In nz it differently because of consumption taxes. 

I do not think it will be a scale with the R7 because it will be enterprise grade. I just had a look on Wikipedia and the Xeon at those high core counts are between 8 to 12k so I think the top end will be less than 8k dropping down to similar prices for the bottom end with Xeon 

had a look at opterons on wikipedia; piledriver went from $300 to $1300 for 16 cores, so I reckon based off this and the extra performance of ryzen, the R9 might be as high as 2x piledriver opteron so $2600 which is still 1/4 the price of intels top line, so could cost even more.

tldr my prediction between $2600 to $8000

also depends on were this is suppose to compete if it is a server class chip like a xeon I defiantly can see the higher price but if it a enthusiast chip like the x99 stuff I would expect closer to what I priced it at.

[SCHISCHKA]

5 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

also depends on were this is suppose to compete if it is a server class chip like a xeon I defiantly can see the higher price but if it a enthusiast chip like the x99 stuff I would expect closer to what I priced it at.

Well that article says it's using the server socket so if they are binned Naples then I dunno maybe they will be 1/2 priced from Naples?

[The Benjamins]

1 minute ago, SCHISCHKA said:

Well that article says it's using the server socket so if they are binned Naples then I dunno maybe they will be 1/2 priced from Naples?

well LGA 1151 and 2011v3 are also server sockets so that kinda means nothing, and it is stated in the article it is modified version of the Naples socket.

[SCHISCHKA]

1 minute ago, The Benjamins said:

well LGA 1151 and 2011v3 are also server sockets so that kinda means nothing, and it is stated in the article it is modified version of the Naples socket.

I'm sure the modifications will just be less features for binned Naples. They wouldnt repeat what they did with the triple core phenoms 

[AntonChigurh]

Holy shitsnacks! If this is real, Intel's gonna get a big slice of humble pie served to them by AMD. I doubt this is real, but if this is, I'm definitely jumping on board. A hexadeca-core CPU at 3.9 ghz? No fucking way. Inb4 Ryzen 9 hype train

[AntonChigurh]

2 hours ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

don't forget the grain of salt because wtftech

True, WTFTech has been known to spread unfounded rumors.

[AntonChigurh]

2 hours ago, Masada02 said:

You're talking to a guy that spent $1600 on a Silicon Lottery 5960X...

 

I probably need help.

Daaaamn, you have a problem...

 

So do I though. I'm seriously debating buying a R7 1700 @ 3.9ghz from Silicon Lottery. Am I crazy?

[Masada02]

3 minutes ago, N1ghtshade said:

Daaaamn, you have a problem...

 

So do I though. I'm seriously debating buying a R7 1700 @ 3.9ghz from Silicon Lottery. Am I crazy?

Nah, they are a great company with great service. I'd do it. Though with Ryzen it probably doesn't matter that much where you get the chip as they are all pretty similar. But since SL isn't charging more than retail for the 3.9 chip there's really no issue.

[AntonChigurh]

Just now, Masada02 said:

Though with Ryzen it probably doesn't matter that much where you get the chip as they are all pretty similar. But since SL isn't charging more than retail for the 3.9 chip there's really no issue.

They are? I though SL chips were binned chips that had good OC capability.

 

And yeah, I should probably do it. It's only $10 more than retail, and it comes with a guarantee that I won't lose the silicon lottery, so that's good.

[Masada02]

Just now, N1ghtshade said:

They are? I though SL chips were binned chips that had good OC capability.

 

And yeah, I should probably do it. It's only $10 more than retail, and it comes with a guarantee that I won't lose the silicon lottery, so that's good.

They are binned, its just that with Ryzen binning doesn't do much. As far as I know, SL buys bulk and bins all the chips. The low bins get sold for less than retail and the high bins get sold for more.

[AntonChigurh]

4 minutes ago, Masada02 said:

They are binned, its just that with Ryzen binning doesn't do much. As far as I know, SL buys bulk and bins all the chips. The low bins get sold for less than retail and the high bins get sold for more.

Hmm ok. The only reason i'm considering a binned Ryzen is cause i'm making a content creation/gaming PC, and I wanted better results in more CPU dependent games for the gaming part of it, so I figured a binned Ryzen would be the best solution.