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1. What defines a good motherboard? (I didn't know motherboards mattered)

 

2. Are the differences between performances in RAM negligible?

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1. What defines a good motherboard? (I didn't know motherboards mattered)

 

2. Are the differences between performances in RAM negligible?

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1. What defines a good motherboard? (I didn't know motherboards mattered)

 

2. Are the differences between performances in RAM negligible?

1#if you have an amd fx quad core and dont want to overclock much if at all get a 4+1 vrm, if you get a 6 core you want a 6+1 vrm 9with heatsinks) if you want an 8320 (dont bother with higher) get an 8+2 vrm which you'll find on 990fx boards.

you get waht you pay for.

2#you wont notice ANY difference in games or daily usage, in video rendering there will be a performance boost, wether its noticable depends on you and what your working on.

 

1# Installl order (some things may be switched around)
Power supply, then motherboard, then cpu, then cpu cooler, then ram, , then hard drive, then graphics card.
2# Take your time.
3# If you plan to overclock or use a high power cpu get a good quality board with heatsinked 8+2 power phases (heatsinks alone don't mean an 8+2vrm).
4# Dont forget the cpu cooler fan header (every other time in the early days)
5 part a Dont cheap out on a case, (under £50 GBP-exceptions below*), stick to well known brands, if you're unsure, ask.
5 part b; You dont always have to buy a more expensive case from corsair, antec etc (though it is a safer bet), if you're carefull and read reviews you can find unknown bargains (7870Tahiti LE, sharkoon t9*, nzxt source 210*).
5 part c; Easy way to spot a good case. (A good case will be made of thicker quality material and wont just strip threads)
1# Does it have a bottom mounted power supply?-not always the case but if its top mounted AND cheap-rubbish.
2# Does it have a black interior?-if they're willing to do this its a good start.- still a poor case
3# Does it have cable routing holes and a cpu cutout?- if they're willing to do this thats good too.- low case
4# Is there enough room behind the motherboard tray to actually route any cables?-you want an inch or more.- a good case
5# Are those cable routing holes use rubber grommets?-makes a build look tidy, most often on £100+ cases.
6# Better designed-attention to detail, you're unlikely to spot things untill you're building in it or unless Tiny Tom Logan talks about it in a review.
if it has all of the above then you have a good case.
 
6# Bright LED fans unless they're expensive are probably cheap and while sometimes it doesn't always matter... do not go thinking they're going to be amazing just because they look good.
7# Just because loads of people are fanatic about something doesn't mean its good, PERSONALLY I think noctuas are overhyped (still good) and gentle typhoons are all a placebo, GET evidence from MULTIPLE reviews even if it means doing it yourself. It's your cash/pc on the line.
8# Watch linus's future proofing guide, infact watch everything linus has made or done a guide on, seriously.....
9# Never assume anything, Don't assume that because its doa its a terrible product (not always) sometimes things just don't work, Shop around ALLOT and factor in postage and read reviews!
10# If you can get USB3 do it! it will become a standard, other things to a lesser extent are likely to become standard aswell so it can be beneficial to spend and extra 3$ on a motherboard/graphics card to get it, again if you're unsure ask!
Don't buy from apple (do i need to say this? the only people that wont like this will have an apple product of some sort and will have paid double the price because its white and partially made of die cast...)
11# Don't always assume newer is better (pentium 4.....bulldozer)
12# Low end AIO coolers aren't much better than a decent heatsink that are cheaper.
 
13# DON'T SPREAD THERMAL PASTE, its meant to be the thinnest micron sized film, thermal paste isn't as good at conducting as heatsink-to-metal contact so only use a blot in the center of the cpu and make sure the heatsink is making good pressure and give it a tiny wiggle without it pulling away from the cpu if you can. (this is something I'm very ocd about) doing it properly isn't hard, doing it really well is an art.
14# DON'T NOT USE THERMAL PASTE, Just because I said less is more doesn't mean none.
15# Learn to cable manage, sit back and think ALLOT before doing something, where its going to go, how, what will the effects be?
16# Plan your build as much as you can before buying parts.
17# Bronze efficiency power supply is minimal silver is allot better, gold is a little better and the improvements (in efficiency) shrink from there on but bronze if you're on a budget gold and upwards if your not.
18# Part 1-"I dont care how loud it is", You will eventually so why not make it as quiet as you affordably can now.
Part 2a- having quiet fans is 1 good but having less fans is quieter.
Part 2b-if you have fans blowing through an area that doesnt need anything cooled (empty hard drive cage) unplug it for now..unless its LED
Air moving in and out the case is important but the airspeed is going to be generally slow, So don't go filling it with fans at the front and exhausts at the back/top just because you can.
19# Clean your pc-just do it-especially if you have lots of fans drawing in air
20# Clean your pc-especially if you dont have any fans moving air.
21# Positive air pressure vs negative air pressure-if your drawing unfiltered air in, it will bring dust in, simple.
22# The faster your fans are, the more restricted they will by by filters and grills-slow and steady.
23# cases with top mounting for fans-spill a cup of tea on it and you'll regret it, even if you dont dust will end up going inside the case through the grills and land on your graphics card.
 
24# Don't build your pc on an anti static bag, it's electrically conductive.
25# Double check your stand off mounts, in the wrong place they can short your board out.
26# Notice things like ddr3 1600 is the same price as ddr1333 and the cost per gigabyte goes down as you get bigger hard drives (generally)
 
Can't think of anything else I've learnt... :D
Oh and read advice given to you, How much of this did you skip?

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 CASE:-NZXT S340 Black, CPU:-FX8120 @4.2Ghz, COOLER:-CM Hyper 212 EVO, BOARD:-MSI 970 Gaming, RAM:-2x4gb 2400mhz Corsair Vengeance Pro, GPU: SLI EVGA GTX480's @700/1000, PSU:-Corsair CX600m, HDD:-WD green 160GB+2TB toshiba
CASE:-(probably) Cooltek U1, CPU:-G3258 @4.5ghx, COOLER:-stock(soon "MSI Dragon" AiO likely), BOARD:-MSI z87i ITX Gaming, RAM:-1x4gb 1333mhz Patriot, GPU: Asus DCU2 r9-270 OC@1000/1500mem, PSU:-Sweex 350w.., HDD:-WD Caviar Blue 640GB
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CASE:-icute zl02-3g-bb, CPU:-Phenom2 X6 1055t @3.5Ghz, COOLER:-Stock, BOARD:-Asrock m3a UCC, RAM:2x2GB 1333mhz Zeppelin (thats yellow!), GPU: XFX 1GB HD6870xxx, PSU:-some 450 POS, HDD:-WD Scorpio blue 120GB
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Gigabyte GTX460, Gigabyte gt430,
GPU's:-GT210 1GB,  asus hd6670 1GB gddr5, XFX XXX 9600gt 512mb Alpha dog edition, few q6600's
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CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra, CPU:-Athlon64 4000+, COOLER:-BIG stock one, BOARD:-MSI something*, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz ECC transcend, GPU:-ati 9800se@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-2x maxtor 80gb,
PICTURES CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra (another), CPU:-Pentium4 2.8ghz prescott, COOLER:-Artic Coolering Freezer4, BOARD:-DFI lanparty infinity 865 R2, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz kingston, GPU:-ati 9550@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-another 2x WD 80gb,
CASE:-ML110 G4, CPU:-xeon 4030, COOLER:-stock leaf blower, BOARD:-stock raid 771 board, RAM:-2x2GB 666mhz kingston ECC ddr2, GPU:-9400GT 1GB, PSU:-stock delta, RAID:-JMicron JMB363 card+onboard raid controller, HDD:-320gb hitachi OS, 2xMaxtor 160gb raid1, 500gb samsungSP, 160gb WD, LAPTOP:-Dell n5030, CPU:-replaced s*** cel900 with awesome C2D E8100, RAM:-2x2GB 1333mhz ddr3, HDD:-320gb, PHONE's:-LG optimus 3D (p920) on 2.3.5@300-600mhz de-clock (batteryFTW)
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Read Topic title, then read original post has if the topic title is part of the original post.

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