7600k or 7700k

[Destius]

Same thing was mentioned in a previous topic but I wanted to make a new one cause it really concerns me. So I have looked into the specs of both Intel proccessor but I still can't figure out which one to buy. I need it for a gaming rig with an Rx 470 8Gb on it. I want to run at least 1080p60+fps on high end games  with the possibility of playing VR or 4k with a GPU update. I know that the 7700k is better at gaming and multitasking cause if the hyperthreading. But are those extra fps worth  an extra 100$?

[M.A.P]

If you are on a tight budget go with i7 6700k as the performance difference between this and 7700k is mostly not noticeable. Save 40$ by going with 6700k and get a Z170 instead of Z270 and save 30-60$. So it should be equal to 7600k or a little bit more in price but 7700k and 6700k perform very similar.

[KyleKyleKyle]

Go with the 7700k, I have one and love it, plus can overclock it

[Princess Luna]

The true question here is i7 7700 vs i7 7700k, stay away from the unlocked i5 it is the worse cost-to-performance purchase right now, you would be much better off with a r5 1600x

[M.A.P]

4 minutes ago, KyleKyleKyle said:

Go with the 7700k, I have one and love it, plus can overclock it

Why not 6700k, you can save minimum of 70$ but still there is no big performance difference.

[Jumper118]

Lol quad core Intel in 2017. 

[WereCat]

Get R5 1600

[Bananasplit_00]

any reason to just have Intel CPUs as your choice? i would pick a R5 1600 or R7 1700 here rather then the 7600k. and with the RX 470 you have no reason to go with the 7700K or the R7 1700 either seeing as the GPU will bottleneck hard. basically get a R5 1600, its better price/preformance and perfect here

[KyleKyleKyle]

4 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

Why not 6700k, you can save minimum of 70$ but still there is no big performance difference.

Because 7700k is a higher number than 6700k, the bigger the number the better 

[tom_w141]

5 minutes ago, KyleKyleKyle said:

Because 7700k is a higher number than 6700k, the bigger the number the better 

LMAO

 

@Fisting Master

 

1. Cringed when I typed that username

 

2. There is no market for the 6600k or 7600k in 2017 or any 4c/4t processor over $200 for that matter.

 

As others have already said you can get the 6c/12t price/performance beast the R5 1600 for $219. This processor has headroom for future core utilisation I newer titles, better frame times and minimums, the capability to stream/encode video in excellent quality without dropping frames and is a power house for any workstation task. On top of all of this it is cheaper than the 7600k AND includes a decent stock cooler so you are not required to purchase a 3rd party CPU cooler if you don't want to.

 

R.I.P i5s 11/04/2017

 

 

 

 

[Princess Luna]

7 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

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He specifically mentioned on OP he is willing to upgrade GPU afterwards for VR experience.

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

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In an ideal world every one would only buy Ryzens until Cannon Lake arrive... yet there's people that even still purchases Broadwell-E for its ludicrous pricing a month away from Skylake-E launch... no wonder why Intel hardly even tries any more.

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

In an ideal world every one would only buy Ryzens until Cannon Lake arrive... yet there's people that even still purchases Broadwell-E for its ludicrous pricing a month away from Skylake-E launch... no wonder why Intel hardly even tries any more.

Manufacturer brain washing, marketing and a long time monopoly means intel have had an easy few years - hopefully 2017 is a bit of nasty shock as they unearth the R&D department  

 

The issue is present in GPUs where for example people will buy a far inferior 1050Ti over an equally priced RX 470/570 just because its NVidia. Consumers hurt themselves and the industry then complain about Intel/Nvidia high prices

[Destius]

6 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

He specifically mentioned on OP he is willing to upgrade GPU afterwards for VR experience.

I did not mean i wanted to upgrade so that i can play VR i meant that it would be able to play VR games
Also thanks everyody else for their suggestions and the truth is that many people have suggested me the 1600x
6C/12T almost as good as the 7600k in perfromance

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Fisting Master said:

I did not mean i wanted to upgrade so that i can play VR i meant that it would be able to play VR games
Also thanks everyody else for their suggestions and the truth is that many people have suggested me the 1600x
6C/12T almost as good as the 7600k in perfromance

Well I mean with the r5 1600x you will have a good enough processor to use a beefier GPU down the line, which is "future-proof" based on upgrade paths, the i5 7600k would on the other hand be much closer to bottleneck future GPUs due to the threads limitation, you would be doing a very good purchase with the 1600x thereafter.

[Destius]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Well I mean with the r5 1600x you will have a good enough processor to use a beefier GPU down the line, which is "future-proof" based on upgrade paths, the i5 7600k would on the other hand be much closer to bottleneck future GPUs due to the threads limitation, you would be doing a very good purchase with the 1600x thereafter.

I think that is actually really true but what worries me is the problem with ryzens OC many tech youtubers have said they find it hard to reach a big frequency with the ryzens
Jayztwocents for exmaple tried to overclock the 1800x and could only reach 4.1Ghz but still crashed. Will AMD fix that with a software/bios update?I mean overcocking is kind of Future-Proofing if you think about it.Giving a little extra strength to the CPU to last an extra year or two

[Princess Luna]

15 minutes ago, Fisting Master said:

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Threads are more important than frequencies nowadays, on the newest CPUs

[Destius]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Threads are more important than frequencies nowadays, on the newest CPUs

then what about the 1600  at 3.2Ghz?
Also dont Ryzen chips come with their own coolers? Kaby lake proccessors come with no cpu fans in the box adding a little bit to the cost

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, Fisting Master said:

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Either the 1600 or 1600x are fine, get the 1600x if you're reluctant to OC yourself or the 1600 if you know you will OC... and yes they come with decent stock coolers.

[Destius]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

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Also what about RAM?They say it can handle faster ram but i guess that wont matter all that much in gaming right?

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Fisting Master said:

Also what about RAM?They say it can handle faster ram but i guess that wont matter all that much in gaming right?

My RAM advise would be a 3000mhz frequency one so you can run on 2933mhz which is almost certain with nowadays bios.

[tom_w141]

12 minutes ago, Fisting Master said:

then what about the 1600  at 3.2Ghz?
Also dont Ryzen chips come with their own coolers? Kaby lake proccessors come with no cpu fans in the box adding a little bit to the cost

Get the 1600 (non X). The ryzen cpus are all unlocked. You can achieve 4GHz with both the 1600 and the 1600X the difference is the X has a factory OC, whereas the 1600 you will have to do the OC yourself. This is even better value when you consider the 1600 comes with a decent stock cooler and the 1600X does not come with one.

 

Speaking from experience here 1700 owner £180 richer by not buying an 1800X and overclocking my 1700 myself.

 

EDIT: Whilst true that X models have a larger XFR boost this is only single core and XFR is disabled when you overclock anyway.

[Destius]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

My RAM advise would be a 3000mhz frequency one so you can run on 2933mhz which is almost certain with nowadays bios.

Oh great i think i have just the one in mind check this out what do you think?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15
i have found them with a white heatsink one a tighter price but that is cause of my local pc parts pricing 

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Fisting Master said:

what do you think?

Why that is the RAM I use on my r7 1800x

[JoostinOnline]

56 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

LMAO

 

@Fisting Master2. There is no market for the 6600k or 7600k in 2017 or any 4c/4t processor over $200 for that matter.

 

That's absolute nonsense.  The 7600k performs better than or equal to the 1600X in plenty of games (not that the opposite isn't true in others). Look at some benchmarks.