Stick with what I got?

[grillechese]

Hey all, 

 

I have been thinking for a while about upgrading from my LGA1150 platform with a Xeon e31231-v3 and 8gb of ram.

 

It runs well but i do notice that in gaming that the there is a CPU bottleneck even with a Asus 1060 6GB STRIX

 

Should I upgrade this to a i5-6700k, 6600k, or a Ryzen 5?

 

Or should i save that money as get a better laptop?

[The Sloth]

51 minutes ago, grillechese said:

i5-6700k,

no such thing, get a i7 6700 or get ryzen over i5.

[ProjectBox153]

Budget? What games? What other workloads? 

[grillechese]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

no such thing, get a i7 6700 or get  ryzen over i5.

oops,  i done goof'd 

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

If you don't need at least 16GB of RAM, you are not a customer for a Xeon chip.

[kameshss]

Surprised to hear about a 1231 v3 is bottlenecking a 1060.

 

What games do you play? 1231v3 is basically an i7 without OC capability and some additional features that Xeon has.

[grillechese]

1 minute ago, Jamiec1130 said:

Budget? What games? What other workloads? 

MAX of $350 of so. 

 

Games: CSGO, BF1, sometimes DOOM, Fallout 4, and Mass Effect: Andromeda.

[grillechese]

1 minute ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

If you don't need at least 16GB of RAM, you are not a customer for a Xeon chip.

yeah, i got the Xeon chip from a friend that i got cheap that was a upgrade from a G3258

[grillechese]

1 minute ago, kameshss said:

Surprised to hear about a 1231 v3 is bottlenecking a 1060.

 

What games do you play? 1231v3 is basically an i7 without OC capability and some additional features that Xeon has.

I just listed them above. It doesn't happen often but it's noticeable when it happens.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

Just now, grillechese said:

yeah, i got the Xeon chip from a friend that i got cheap that was a upgrade from a G3258

Damn, lucky you hahaha. Fair enough.

[Mega571]

I would recommend the i7 7700k/6700k, as it beats out ryzen 7 in pure gaming at this time. 

[kameshss]

4 minutes ago, grillechese said:

I just listed them above. It doesn't happen often but it's noticeable when it happens.

Settings Ultra?

[PCGuy_5960]

10 minutes ago, grillechese said:

MAX of $350 of so. 

 

Games: CSGO, BF1, sometimes DOOM, Fallout 4, and Mass Effect: Andromeda.

Get an i7-7700K

[19_blackie_73]

22 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

If you don't need at least 16GB of RAM, you are not a customer for a Xeon chip.

Well i'm a xeon owner too... and only use it for gaming and a bit of rendering. the 1231 is a well known workaround to get the i7 haswell performance for the price of the i5

21 minutes ago, kameshss said:

Surprised to hear about a 1231 v3 is bottlenecking a 1060.

 

What games do you play? 1231v3 is basically an i7 without OC capability and some additional features that Xeon has.

true ^^

 

@ OP I cannot imagine bottlenecking with that chip... 1060 is not much faster according to some benchmarks than my 970 and I don't have any problems. Is your chip really near 100% and the gpu only around 50ish % utilization?

[grillechese]

53 minutes ago, kameshss said:

Settings Ultra?

not completely no

[grillechese]

50 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Get an i7-7700K

i guess i should said that the 350 needed to consist of the MOBO, CPU, AND RAM.

[grillechese]

38 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

Well i'm a xeon owner too... and only use it for gaming and a bit of rendering. the 1231 is a well known workaround to get the i7 haswell performance for the price of the i5

true ^^

 

@ OP I cannot imagine bottlenecking with that chip... 1060 is not much faster according to some benchmarks than my 970 and I don't have any problems. Is your chip really near 100% and the gpu only around 50ish % utilization?

It's doesn't really happen often but when it does the GPU and CPU usage will drop down to basically idle when it happens AND the GPU will stay the same where as the CPU will jump up above 90% at other times. it's really weird. makes me think it might be a RAM issue at times since i only have 8GB

[kameshss]

3 minutes ago, grillechese said:

not completely no

to complete this convo short. You shouldn't be face any kind of bottlenecking in anyway. Something wrong with your OS or drivers? Not sure. Use Display Driver Uninstaller to uninstall the GPU drivers and make a clean download from the Nvidia site and install it. If it doesn't solve the problem, you better off performing Clean Installation of OS. Which OS do you have? If you have Windows 10, did you upgrade from Windows 7/8/8.1?

[PCGuy_5960]

24 minutes ago, grillechese said:

i guess i should said that the 350 needed to consist of the MOBO, CPU, AND RAM.

Oh, get this then:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.44 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($63.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $372.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-15 15:56 EDT-0400

[grillechese]

1 hour ago, kameshss said:

to complete this convo short. You shouldn't be face any kind of bottlenecking in anyway. Something wrong with your OS or drivers? Not sure. Use Display Driver Uninstaller to uninstall the GPU drivers and make a clean download from the Nvidia site and install it. If it doesn't solve the problem, you better off performing Clean Installation of OS. Which OS do you have? If you have Windows 10, did you upgrade from Windows 7/8/8.1?

i've done a complete clean OS install, still happens. updated every single driver I can possibly think of that I have in my system and it still happens. 

I have a Windows 10 no upgrade.

[grillechese]

55 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Oh, get this then:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.44 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($63.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $372.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-15 15:56 EDT-0400

that's the best the thing possible? 

 

If i have to i'll sell the cpu, mobo, ram combo i have. not much but still. 

[PCGuy_5960]

33 minutes ago, grillechese said:

that's the best the thing possible? 

Pretty much

[kameshss]

33 minutes ago, grillechese said:

i've done a complete clean OS install, still happens. updated every single driver I can possibly think of that I have in my system and it still happens. 

I have a Windows 10 no upgrade.

Please hold on before buying any new components. I still think it's the software problem. There is no way in the world that a 1231 v3 gonna bottleneck a 1060. I can't think of any other reasons why you're facing this problem. Power options set in "High Performance" mode? GPU OC? Memory set on XMP profile?

[i_build_nanosuits]

3 hours ago, grillechese said:

I have been thinking for a while about upgrading from my LGA1150 platform with a Xeon e31231-v3 and 8gb of ram.

It runs well but i do notice that in gaming that the there is a CPU bottleneck even with a Asus 1060 6GB STRIX

no way...what you have there is basically an i7-4770 without a iGPU...it's quite a bit more performance than you need to properly run a GTX 1060.

I have an haswell core i7 paired with a GTX 1080 and i tell you what, the GPU is the limiting factor in EVERY AAA games i play.

 

i would get another 8GB of RAM...and if you want more performance in games, get a more powerful GPU...your CPU is perfectly fine for gaming.

[grillechese]

54 minutes ago, kameshss said:

Please hold on before buying any new components. I still think it's the software problem. There is no way in the world that a 1231 v3 gonna bottleneck a 1060. I can't think of any other reasons why you're facing this problem. Power options set in "High Performance" mode? GPU OC? Memory set on XMP profile?

Don't worry wasn't going to buy anything, anytime soon.

 

Mem is not on XMP mode, GPU is OC to 1911. I could get just over 2000MHz if i push it. power option isn't on high performance as far as i know. I'm not currently on my desktop so i'm not sure about that.