Is dual-chip graphics cards are dead?

[Gameborn]

The latest dual-chip gpu from NVidia was gtx 790, and from amd is r9 295x2 (not sure about that). No newer Maxwell/pascal NVidia gpu's or gcn 3.0+ amd gpu's? Or is gpu's are becoming much power efficient and there's less problems with running sli/crossfire system? What's the reason?

[Morgan MLGman]

AMD has the 390X2 (2x R9 390) and Radeon ProDuo which are two Fury X chips on one GPU. Those GPUs are not "dead", Nvidia abandoned the idea I guess, though I'd expect AMD to release a dual Vega card this year.

[Schakal_No1]

the amount of people interested in these kind of cards is pretty low so the support from game manufacturers is not that great giving consumoers one more reason not to buy these ...

[Morgan MLGman]

4 minutes ago, Schakal_No1 said:

the amount of people interested in these kind of cards is pretty low so the support from game manufacturers is not that great giving consumoers one more reason not to buy these ...

It works the same as two separate GPUs in Crossfire/SLI so support from game manufacturers is not the reason.

[nobiggieBIG]

1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

It works the same as two separate GPUs in Crossfire/SLI so support from game manufacturers is not the reason.

in a way no, but some devs don't support sli

[Morgan MLGman]

Just now, nobiggieBIG said:

in a way no, but some devs don't support sli

True, but if a game doesn't support multi-GPU configurations such as SLI and Crossfire, it won't support using two separate GPUs as well so in this case, only one chip of the dual card would do the work.

 

Those cards have exactly the same issues as dual-GPU configs, however support for those technologies is not as bad as people think, at least in modern titles.

[nobiggieBIG]

2 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

True, but if a game doesn't support multi-GPU configurations such as SLI and Crossfire, it won't support using two separate GPUs as well so in this case, only one chip of the dual card would do the work.

 

Those cards have exactly the same issues as dual-GPU configs, however support for those technologies is not as bad as people think, at least in modern titles.

not worth it nowadays, especially for the price overhaul, they charge you for the development

[Morgan MLGman]

1 minute ago, nobiggieBIG said:

not worth it nowadays, especially for the price overhaul, they charge you for the development

It just depends what you're using it for. If you need computing power, you can get two dual cards such as Radeon ProDuo instead of four Fury X's and run them in QuadFire - less space taken in the case, fewer PCI slots occupied etc.

 

For gaming? If you get a ProDuo, 295x2 or 390X2 at a good price, it's not a bad idea as Crossfire is a better technology than SLI in terms of performance scaling, flexibility etc.

[nobiggieBIG]

Just now, Morgan MLGman said:

It just depends what you're using it for. If you need computing power, you can get two dual cards such as Radeon ProDuo instead of four Fury X's and run them in QuadFire - less space taken in the case, fewer PCI slots occupied etc.

 

For gaming? If you get a ProDuo, 295x2 or 390X2 at a good price, it's not a bad idea as Crossfire is a better technology than SLI in terms of performance scaling, flexibility etc.

but sli isn't worth it because of issues. sli/cf

[JoostinOnline]

I've been awake all night and I laughed trying to understand this title.

[reniat]

2 hours ago, nobiggieBIG said:

but sli isn't worth it because of issues. sli/cf

I disagree. It's not perfect, but im very happy with my sli setup. You trade $$$ and configuration effort to get huge amounts of power. Some people love that tradeoff, some don't. It's rarely a good value move (unless buying a used older gen card to pair with your older gen card), but that's not the same as being "not worth it". If you're willing to spend a bit of effort it can totally be worth it. And yes, some games just don't handle sli at all (especially games in prerelease), but you can always disable sli for a given game in the nvidia control panel. Plus in my totally anecdotal experience most modern games that don't sli well aren't really the kind of hi fidelity game where you need huge power anyway. 

 

But again, that just makes it worth it for me. Someone else might take that same statement and see a clear reason to not sli. To each his/her own.

[Gameborn]

3 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

I've been awake all night and I laughed trying to understand this title.

Is it because of grammar errors in title or what?

[typographie]

4 hours ago, Gameborn said:

The latest dual-chip gpu from NVidia was gtx 790, and from amd is r9 295x2 (not sure about that).

I see some really old rumors about a possible GTX 790, but no product by that name that was ever released. Nvidia's last dual-GPU card was the Titan Z, I think. As someone else mentioned above, AMD's last was the Radeon Pro Duo last year, which is two Fiji XT's on one board.

 

There's an "R9 390X2," but I think that's just something PowerColor came up with. It doesn't seem to be based on any AMD reference.

[Bananasplit_00]

the 790 is somethign iv never heard of, there is the Titan Z as the latest dual chip card from NVIDIA and the GTX 690 came before that. both were terible in terms of heat

[linustouchtips]

i remember when i wanted this

[Citadelen]

4 minutes ago, linustouchtips said:

Spoiler

i remember when i wanted this

 

I have no respect for anyone who bought a Titan-Z. Complete and utter waste of money.

That however is one sexy card.

Edited April 5, 2017 by Citadelen

[Princess Luna]

Who knows a Titan Z based on Pascal or Volta would be pretty insane, I prefer these cards over sli solutions but yeah I doubt nVidia is going further with the idea.

[Citadelen]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Who knows a Titan Z based on Pascal or Volta would be pretty insane, I prefer these cards over sli solutions but yeah I doubt nVidia is going further with the idea.

So do I. A Pro Duo is much better than two Fury Xs in my opinion, you get much better power efficiency, only two slots used (I think two) and professional drivers.

Edited April 5, 2017 by Citadelen

[typographie]

6 minutes ago, Citadelen said:

That however is one sexy card.

Sexy until you need more than 4 GB of VRAM, which may be why AMD didn't market the Radeon Pro Duo very hard as a gaming product. The people who need two (at the time) high-end GPUs in Crossfire but no more than 4 GB is a pretty slim demographic.

[Bananasplit_00]

7 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Who knows a Titan Z based on Pascal or Volta would be pretty insane, I prefer these cards over sli solutions but yeah I doubt nVidia is going further with the idea.

it would suffer from the same problems with heat that the Titan Z did probably

[Citadelen]

1 minute ago, typographie said:

Sexy until you need more than 4 GB of VRAM, which may be why AMD didn't market the Radeon Pro Duo very hard as a gaming product. The people who need two (at the time) high-end GPUs in Crossfire but no more than 4 GB is a pretty slim demographic.

That's not really a problem in a few titles, the rest do fine on 4GB, the others have DX12 explicit multi adapter, so they can use 8GB of VRAM.

[Princess Luna]

4 minutes ago, Citadelen said:

I have no respect for anyone who bought a Titan-Z. Complete and utter waste of money.

says it while owning a FX-9590

 

I mean people will spend absurd money on luxury items, jewels, cloths, shoes, cars, mobile phones and so on... A lot of woman including my mother for the matter will waste thousand of dollars on jewels, rocks? lol

 

I would prefer any day winning a super high end GPU than an useless shining rock to be honest from my boyfriend

 

4 minutes ago, Citadelen said:

So do I. A Pro Duo is much better than two Fury Xs in my opinion, you get much better power efficiency, only two slots used (I think two) and professional drivers.

Exactly, these cards aren't dead because they offer good stuff for the pure enthusiastic segment, I can't help my thing is hardware so I buy Titans card, I don't get people saying it is a rip off, like I said above WE ALL waste money on luxury stuff, why should my option for luxury which is a nVidia Titan card be seen any worse than who shops I don't know... special goat coat that costs thousands and you only wear once per year? hehe

[linustouchtips]

Pretty much sums up the titan z sales. 

[Princess Luna]

15 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

it would suffer from the same problems with heat that the Titan Z did probably

83Cº on max load on air, it isn't that bad, it is close to what you'd expect from an overclocked Founders Edition 980ti worse scenario.

[reniat]

11 minutes ago, typographie said:

Sexy until you need more than 4 GB of VRAM, which may be why AMD didn't market the Radeon Pro Duo very hard as a gaming product. The people who need two (at the time) high-end GPUs in Crossfire but no more than 4 GB is a pretty slim demographic.

1440p 144hz monitors is one place where you want high end power but rarely exceed 4gb in VRAM usage. The only thing I can think of that uses more than 4gb at 1440p (outside of crazy mods) is shadow of mordor. I have 2 970s in sli (until my 2 1080tis arrive ) and I haven't exceeded 4gb yet (again, aside from shadows of mordor) but could definitely use more power in games like crysis 3, where I hover in the 60-90 fps range when maxed out (again, until my 2 1080tis arrive ).

 

So I would say anyone with a 1440p 144hz monitor who isn't planning on migrating to 4k anytime soon is a person who could benefit from dual high end cards without needing more than 4gb of vram. Now, I'm not saying the pro duo is a good buy for 1440p 144hz gaming, I'm just saying there is a demographic for high power and <4gb vram.