Power Supply Advice

[Lurcher]

I've been gradually assembling a budget gaming rig for a while now, and I have all my parts besides a PSU. Here are my specs:

 

Core i5 6500, stock cooler which I will upgrade if it turns out to be inadequate.

Gigabyte H110m s2h

2x8gb Hyperx Fury 2133 DDR4

MSI Radeon R9 280x 3gb Twin Frozr OC Edition

1x Sandisk SSD plus 120gb

1x WD Scorpio Black 2.5" 500gb 7200rpm

3x case fans

 

PCpartpicker comes out at 436w, and my graphics card box recommends 500w system, but it sounds a little close. Would an EVGA 600w 80+ white be ok? Or do I need something higher end? Would it make more sense to go with something like a Seasonic s12ii 520w? I'm on a pretty tight budget (like £60) but there's no sense in frying components to save money. 

 

[PCGuy_5960]

Get the Seasonic S12II-520, it is much better in terms of quality

[AntonChigurh]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Get the Seasonic S12II-520, it is much better in terms of quality

What about the S12G-550? It's 80+ Gold, and it's only about ~$20 more expensive than the one you recommended

[KillerGamingBro]

You can also go with the CX550M from Corsair. Good PSU's , not to expensive but will do the job.

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, N1ghtshade said:

What about the S12G-550? It's 80+ Gold, and it's only about ~$20 more expensive than the one you recommended

He mentioned the S12II, this is why I recommended it

7 minutes ago, Lurcher said:

Would it make more sense to go with something like a Seasonic s12ii 520w?

 

[ACEHACK]

go with EVGA 600w 80+ white

[AntonChigurh]

3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

He mentioned the S12II, this is why I recommended it

 

I know, but there's better alternatives

[Lurcher]

The S12G-550 does look nice, but I can't seem to find it in Europe/UK. You think the 520 is enough? I hope so because I like Seasonic stuff

[knightslugger]

11 minutes ago, Lurcher said:

PCpartpicker comes out at 436w

I don't know where PCPP gets it's numbers...

[AntonChigurh]

22 minutes ago, Lurcher said:

The S12G-550 does look nice, but I can't seem to find it in Europe/UK. You think the 520 is enough? I hope so because I like Seasonic stuff

Ah rip. And yes, the 520 should be enough, but your parts will wear out quicker than with a gold rated PSU

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 hour ago, N1ghtshade said:

Ah rip. And yes, the 520 should be enough, but your parts will wear out quicker than with a gold rated PSU

No they won't.... the system will just demand more power from the wall.

 

1 hour ago, Lurcher said:

I've been gradually assembling a budget gaming rig for a while now, and I have all my parts besides a PSU. Here are my specs:

 

Core i5 6500, stock cooler which I will upgrade if it turns out to be inadequate.

Gigabyte H110m s2h

2x8gb Hyperx Fury 2133 DDR4

MSI Radeon R9 280x 3gb Twin Frozr OC Edition

1x Sandisk SSD plus 120gb

1x WD Scorpio Black 2.5" 500gb 7200rpm

3x case fans

 

PCpartpicker comes out at 436w, and my graphics card box recommends 500w system, but it sounds a little close. Would an EVGA 600w 80+ white be ok? Or do I need something higher end? Would it make more sense to go with something like a Seasonic s12ii 520w? I'm on a pretty tight budget (like £60) but there's no sense in frying components to save money. 

 

A Seasonic S12 520W is fine. The 280X is a smidge power hungry so although the 430W version would most certainly work fine I'd still allow for more headroom in case you decide to upgrade to an i7 in the future or something like that.

[AntonChigurh]

49 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

No they won't.... the system will just demand more power from the wall.

Bronze rated PSU's are less efficient than Gold rated. They will always waste more power than Gold or Platinum rated, and the excess power is turned into heat. More heat = Shorter component lifespan.

 

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 minute ago, N1ghtshade said:

Bronze rated PSU's are less efficient than Gold rated. They will always waste more power than Gold or Platinum rated, and the excess power is turned into heat. More heat = Shorter component lifespan.

 

 

Let's just start with one thing. Go to the PSU/Chassis subforum and click the third thread down.

 

The .3 degrees Celcius that difference will be within your system will not shorten the lifespan of your components. There is a fan within your PSU for a reason. If it gets hot that fan will come on. That heat is contained largely within the PSU itself and there are so many other factors outside of the efficiency of your unit that will make a difference in temperature far less marginal than the one created by a 3% efficiency difference at loads most people will not stress their PSU under. Heatsinking in your PSU makes more of a difference than its Ecova efficiency standard. 

 

Never mind that the PSU *exhausts* heat and is never going to make your system hotter, bar that.

[aisle9]

2 hours ago, knightslugger said:

I don't know where PCPP gets it's numbers...

Whatever their algorithm is, I've found that it tends to be low by quite a bit. Not an unreasonable amount, but low enough that my general rule is to overshoot by 100W or 10%, whichever is higher.

 

Might be cutting that to 50W or 10%, though. My numbers just seem excessive.

[AntonChigurh]

2 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Let's just start with one thing. Go to the PSU/Chassis subforum and click the third thread down.

 

The .3 degrees Celcius that difference will be within your system will not shorten the lifespan of your components. There is a fan within your PSU for a reason. If it gets hot that fan will come on. That heat is contained largely within the PSU itself and there are so many other factors outside of the efficiency of your unit that will make a difference in temperature far less marginal than the one created by a 3% efficiency difference at loads most people will not stress their PSU under. Heatsinking in your PSU makes more of a difference than its Ecova efficiency standard. 

 

Never mind that the PSU *exhausts* heat and is never going to make your system hotter, bar that.

Hmm alright. I always thought that a higher 80+ rating meant better quality. I guess not. Speaking of which, I need a recommendation on something. I'm going to be doing a new build of my own soon, and i'm looking for a more high-end PSU for it, as the build is gonna draw a lot of power stock, plus I wanna overclock. I was looking at a Corsair 1000w 80+ Platinum Fully-Modular, but I'd like to know if I could get any better performance for my $180

[STRMfrmXMN]

3 minutes ago, N1ghtshade said:

Hmm alright. I always thought that a higher 80+ rating meant better quality. I guess not. Speaking of which, I need a recommendation on something. I'm going to be doing a new build of my own soon, and i'm looking for a more high-end PSU for it, as the build is gonna draw a lot of power stock, plus I wanna overclock. I was looking at a Corsair 1000w 80+ Platinum Fully-Modular, but I'd like to know if I could get any better performance for my $180

Nope, it doesn't although it can correlate to some degree since it's not too often you see a poor-quality 80 PLUS Platinum unit, but that said, it doesn't directly correlate to quality, no.

 

What are you powering that demands 1000W? Most dual GPU systems would be fine on a 750W.

[AntonChigurh]

Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

Nope, it doesn't although it can correlate to some degree since it's not too often you see a poor-quality 80 PLUS Platinum unit, but that said, it doesn't directly correlate to quality, no.

 

What are you powering that demands 1000W? Most dual GPU systems would be fine on a 750W.

Yeah that's what I figured haha. It seems as though it's more of the whole "you get what you pay for" theory rather than correlation to rating.

 

and this. I know, I know. 1000w is probably overkill, but I wanna make sure it's future proof, so if I wanna slap two Titan X's in it in the future, the only thing I have to worry about it heating and making space for them.

[STRMfrmXMN]

4 minutes ago, N1ghtshade said:

Yeah that's what I figured haha. It seems as though it's more of the whole "you get what you pay for" theory rather than correlation to rating.

 

and this. I know, I know. 1000w is probably overkill, but I wanna make sure it's future proof, so if I wanna slap two Titan X's in it in the future, the only thing I have to worry about it heating and making space for them.

I mean an EVGA 1000W G is much cheaper and would do just as well.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gBsKHx/evga-power-supply-120g11000vr

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MKfp99/evga-power-supply-120g21000xr

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QG38TW/evga-power-supply-220gs1050v1

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vq38TW/corsair-power-supply-cp9020094na

 

Some cheaper options that will all work well for you.

[AntonChigurh]

6 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

I mean an EVGA 1000W G is much cheaper and would do just as well.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gBsKHx/evga-power-supply-120g11000vr

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MKfp99/evga-power-supply-120g21000xr

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QG38TW/evga-power-supply-220gs1050v1

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vq38TW/corsair-power-supply-cp9020094na

 

Some cheaper options that will all work well for you.

I went with the EVGA 1050w. Thanks for the help!