Processor choosement

[PCGuy_5960]

The question that you have to ask yourself is: Do I need more cores?

• If your answer is yes, get the 1700, it's a no brainer
• If your answer is no, get the 7700K
• If your answer is maybe, get the 5820K

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

The question that you have to ask yourself is: Do I need more cores?

• If your answer is yes, get the 1700, it's a no brainer
• If your answer is no, get the 7700K
• If your answer is maybe, get the 5820K

View the previous 6-7 pages this was all done 12-24 hours ago.

[AndriesM]

 

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Do I need more cores?

More future-proof so, im going for 1700

Still, 1700 or 1700X. I can afford it, but what is the difference apart from TDP?

Is it just a higher clocked 1700?

[tom_w141]

Lmao gg quoted myself  @PCGuy_5960

EDIT: taken from OP "It's for schoolwork, video-editing and gaming."

 

Rules 7700k out. So its X99 or AM4. He doesn't want to sell a kidney for marginal gains so he opted for AM4.

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

View the previous 6-7 pages this was all done 12-24 hours ago.

If you want to say something, say it...

[tom_w141]

Just now, AndriesM said:

 

More future-proof so, im going for 1700

Still, 1700 or 1700X. I can afford it, but what is the difference apart from TDP?

Is it just a higher clocked 1700?

All 3 are the same just different factory clocks. The 65W tdp is false-ish that is at stock as soon as you oc it is no longer valid. The 1700 is best price/performance and can definitely be clocked @ 1700X freq. The 1800X can in some not all cases be pushed to 4.1GHz. My 1700 can do 4GHz. So its pretty much a factory OC that's why the 1800X barely has any oc headroom.

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, AndriesM said:

More future-proof so, im going for 1700

Don't forget CCXs though.... They cause issues with gaming performance, so don't expecexpect Ryzen to outperform a 5820K or a 7700K

[tom_w141]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

Don't forget CCXs though.... They cause issues with gaming performance, so don't expecexpect Ryzen to outperform a 5820K or a 7700K

You keep rehashing this. They don't really - trust me I've used both have you? I haven't seen any loss of frames. This may be apparent at 1080p 144Hz but in the majority of cases its not.

[PCGuy_5960]

3 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

EDIT: taken from OP "It's for schoolwork, video-editing and gaming.

r=Rules 7700k out. 

No. If you use Adobe, the 7700K would be within 1 minute of an overclocked 6950X....

4 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

marginal gains

10-15% in games is not what I would call marginal....

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

You keep rehashing this. They don't really - trust me I've used both have you? I haven't seen any loss of frames. This may be apparent at 1080p 144Hz but in the majority of cases its not.

GPU?

[AndriesM]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

144Hz

I wont get 144 Hz, as these monitors are expensive AF, and my current monitor runs on VGA LOL, but it does pretty good

[tom_w141]

Just now, AndriesM said:

I wont get 144 Hz, as these monitors are expensive AF, and my current monitor runs on VGA LOL, but it does pretty good

Exactly. Dw about it hes always in these threads which is why I cringed when you tagged him  You've been given plenty of advice. Go with what feels right for you buddy. I'm not up for another debate with pcguy, its like screaming into the wind. GL

[AndriesM]

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

GL

Thanks, But still 1700 vs 1700X

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Exactly. Dw about it hes always in these threads which is why I cringed when you tagged him  You've been given plenty of advice. Go with what feels right for you buddy. I'm not up for another debate with pcguy, its like screaming into the wind. GL

Try to think of a better argument than "he has an Intel Profile pic so he is an Intel Fanboy" and then we can have a debate. 

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, AndriesM said:

Thanks, But still 1700 vs 1700X

1700, it is cheaper and it sometimes overclocks better

[PCGuy_5960]

7 minutes ago, AndriesM said:

I wont get 144 Hz, as these monitors are expensive AF, and my current monitor runs on VGA LOL, but it does pretty good

If you don't care about 144Hz, even a G4560 would be enough

Wait for Ryzen 5 TBH, it is cheaper, so you will be able to get a better GPU. (Which will help in rendering if you use CUDA/OpenGL and it will definitely help in games)

[AndriesM]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

1700, it is cheaper and it sometimes overclocks better

Sometimes, but why is the X version there then? if its completely useless?

[AndriesM]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

Wait for Ryzen 5 TBH, it is cheaper, so you will be able to get a better GPU. (Which will help in rendering if you use CUDA/OpenGL and it will definitely help in games)

SO you suggest, Ryzen 1600X and a 1070 or something?

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, AndriesM said:

Sometimes, but why is the X version there then? if its completely useless?

1. For people who don't want to overclock
2. Bragging rights
3. XFR

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, AndriesM said:

SO you suggest, Ryzen 1600X and a 1070 or something?

Yep, you will get better performance in rendering (if you use GPU acceleration) and in gaming. At least this is what I would do

[AndriesM]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

• XFR

Whats that

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, AndriesM said:

Whats that

Extended frequency range. It is like GPU Boost, but for your CPU

[tom_w141]

6 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

1. For people who don't want to overclock
2. Bragging rights
3. XFR

1 & 2 are correct though the 1700 has xfr too but 50MHz not 100. Though XFR is a gimmick and only boosts 1 core for short periods and is disabled by a manual overclock anyway.

 

6 minutes ago, AndriesM said:

SO you suggest, Ryzen 1600X and a 1070 or something?

Yes and no. Dropping to R5 is another option but if you did that I'd drop to the 1500X  and just oc to 1600X (stock) and above speeds (still a 6 core, same reasoning as the R7s). Then as you said further invest in the gpu

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, AndriesM said:

Whats that

Dw about its only single core boost and is disabled as soon as you overclock anyway  An all core overclock is better than a single core boost.

[AndriesM]

I heard that the best chips were for 1800X and less good for 1700X

Is that true and is that the same for R5?