Processor choosement

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

Though XFR is a gimmick and only boosts 1 core for short periods and is disabled by a manual overclock anyway.

It is? I think that it boosts the CPU even when it is overclocked...

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

Yes and no. Dropping to R5 is another option but if you did that I'd drop to the 1500X  and just oc to 1600X (stock) and above speeds (still a 6 core, same reasoning as the R7s).

But the 1500X is a 4C 8T CPU.... 

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, AndriesM said:

I heard that the best chips were for 1800X and less good for 1700X

Is that true and is that the same for R5?

All R7 CPUs can overclock to the same frequency, so it won't make a difference unless you are overclocking with LN2

[AndriesM]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

But the 1500X is a 4C 8T CPU.... 

sounds like cheap 7700K

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, AndriesM said:

I heard that the best chips were for 1800X and less good for 1700X

Is that true and is that the same for R5?

When you say "best" I assume you are referring to material.

 

They all start out as the same chip then a given % are taken as 1800Xs and tested, same for 1700Xs and 1700s. This is called binning. It is to ensure the 1800X will reach the advertised speeds. But because all these are essentially the same with different factory clocks the 1700 on average ocs much further than the 1800X (by further I mean % not total freq) e.g. 1700s max out around 4GHz unless you get really lucky, on average the 1800X can do 4.1GHz. In this line up it is the 1700X that is the most out of place. The 1700 is for tinkering and the 1800X is for out of the box plug and play (e.g. business use)

[AndriesM]

Ok then i'll get a 1700 because I need some WS power, and I can always buy another RX480

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, AndriesM said:

sounds like cheap 7700K

It kind of is. But it doesn't perform as well in games and it doesn't overclock as well. Get a 1600X or a 1600, both are better and not much more expensive...

[AndriesM]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

1700s max out around 4GHz unless you get really lucky, on average the 1800X can do 4.1GHz

That's not worth the double of the price of a 1800X

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

It is? I think that it boosts the CPU even when it is overclocked...

But the 1500X is a 4C 8T CPU.... 

Yeah you are right there my bad! 1600 then not the 1600X*

[tom_w141]

Just now, AndriesM said:

That's not worth the double of the price of a 1800X

Yes that is the general consensus among consumers but the 1800X does have its place in business where they wouldnt bother oc'ing or for a fit and forget user

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, AndriesM said:

Ok then i'll get a 1700 because I need some WS power, and I can always buy another RX480

Whatever you think is best for you bud! I would recommend a 1600(X) and a 1070, but if you think that the 1700 is better for your needs, go for it.

[AndriesM]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

Yes that is the general consensus among consumers but the 1800X does have its place in business where they wouldnt bother oc'ing or for a fit and forget user

Yup, but the business people also have Quadro's and shit. So they know a PC can cost a lot, and just order stuff

[AndriesM]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

1600(X) and a 1070

Is that better for WS than a 1700 and a RX480?

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, AndriesM said:

Is that better for WS than a 1700 and a RX480?

What software do you use?

[AndriesM]

For editing

• Lightworks
• Pinnacle studio

For gaming

• GTA V(I)
• Web games
• Maybe Overwatch

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, AndriesM said:

Is that better for WS than a 1700 and a RX480?

You can argue it either way. Not quite as good single card but your idea of crossfire RX480s and the 1700 sounds the better option imo. Especially as the 1700 has been shown to work well with AMD's DX12 drivers.

[tom_w141]

Just now, AndriesM said:

For editing

• Lightworks
• Pinnacle studio

For gaming

• GTA V(I)
• Web games

GTA is one of few modern titles that can scale across cores. So more = better here.

[AndriesM]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

Especially as the 1700 has been shown to work well with AMD's DX12 drivers.

Ok, im going full AMD. Lets get that OCZ RADEON R7 SSD.

Ehh nope. WD Blue SSD is better and a lot cheaper, Get an NVMe for the same price as that "AMD" SSD

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, AndriesM said:

Ok, im going full AMD. Lets get that OCZ RADEON R7 SSD.

Ehh nope. WD Blue SSD is better and a lot cheaper, Get an NVMe for the same price as that "AMD" SSD

Yeah no need to use 1 manufacturer for the entire build

 

I use an 850 Evo - Great SSD

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, AndriesM said:

For editing

• Lightworks
• Pinnacle studio

Lightworks is very single core intensive, in other words, it needs clock speed and IPC. A 7350K at 5GHz would outperform a 6950X in lightworks

Pinnacle studio has GPU acceleration, so you will need a good GPU. I think that the 1600 and GTX 1070 combo will be better for your needs.

[AndriesM]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Pinnacle studio has GPU acceleration, so you will need a good GPU. I think that the 1600 and GTX 1070 combo will be better for your needs.

I can get triple CF if i want. The 1070 is waay more expensive.

[PCGuy_5960]

5 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

GTA is one of few modern titles that can scale across cores. So more = better here.

Yes, but only up to a point...

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Lightworks is very single core intensive, in other words, it needs clock speed and IPC. A 7350K at 5GHz would outperform a 6950X in lightworks

Pinnacle studio has GPU acceleration, so you will need a good GPU. I think that the 1600 and GTX 1070 combo will be better for your needs.

Yes but his plan is not to remain single card. He plans to add a 2nd for crossfire.

[AndriesM]

3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Lightworks is very single core intensive, in other words, it needs clock speed and IPC. A 7350K at 5GHz would outperform a 6950X in lightworks

Ok, im getting that overclockable i3 and a some 560 Rads

JK

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, AndriesM said:

I can get triple CF if i want. The 1070 is waay more expensive.

If the editing software that you use can take advantage of multiple GPUs, then the 3x480s may be better

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

Yes but his plan is not to remain single card. He plans to add a 2nd for crossfire.

You can add more 1070s in the future