Why I'm Not Coming Back/What ever happened?

[Builder]

When I left this board two years ago I feared the forum was headed in a bad direction with regards to how politics was being moderated, and I had better ways to spend my time than arguing with people over whether or not sexism is real and prevalent. After voicing those concerns I was informed by Slick that the rules had changed and that everything stupid that happened around the time of GamerGate wouldn't happen again. I still do have better ways to spend my time, and I realize that for those of you who never knew me I'm not missed and for those that did know me one user doesn't really mean much. But I thought it prudent to make this thread because I was horrified at the sheer cravenness of some of the shit around here. The sheer fucked-uppedness of this flaming shitpile of a forum was not apparent at first breach and probably still isn't to a lot of you, but just in case there's any confusion about why I left, this idiot's profile is a good encapsulation of why:

https://linustechtips.com/main/profile/143680-survivornvl/

 

Okay, what the fuck is going on here? The dude has a white nationalist flag on his profile and calls himself an "American Ultranationalist?" And what's more is he's said 

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it'd be quite the plot-twist if it turns out all along, instead of being the Left-wing puppet master of the EU and America's, he turns out to actually have been, all along, the last surviving Nazi in power, who could bring back the Empire.  

(of George Soros, the conspiracy theories surrounding which are far too silly to even warrant refuting. The dude's a centrist. You want to know what he believes, read Karl Popper. And speaking of Popper...well we'll get to that later.)

 

 

Why is this considered acceptable behavior? Forget your opinion of feminism or the left in general, a forum on which blatant white-nationalism and support of nazism is considered within the range of acceptable discourse is far too close to Stormfront for my tastes, and I cannot imagine I'm the only person that feels this way. I will refer you to the philosopher of science Karl Popper's evaluation of the paradox of tolerance:

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Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.

Let's pause for a second and consider the difference between liberalism and leftism in this instance, and why I side with the liberals. This is a fundamentally liberal position in the political science sense, in that Popper does not want the intolerant to be slain en masse the way leftists do, he would just prefer not to have to argue rationally with Nazis who are speaking from a fundamentally unscientific and irrational position. Seriously, ask any Nazi or fascist. Rationalism and enlightenment are for liberals, Julius Evola prefers esoteric religious (even "magic") philosophy which eschews entirely the liberal convention of rational discourse.

 

As it happens this post is a pretty decent summation of why I don't bother engaging here anymore, because I cite Popper to trash internet nazis and argue about this shit day in and day out forever and ever and those skills are best put to use elsewhere.

 

Just for the hell of it, I'll predict what 90% of the responses to this post will be. I urge you to avoid using these phrases and variations thereof if you do choose to reply because their unsoundness has been demonstrated above: "suppressing freedom of speech" "creating an echo chamber" "safe space" "intolerant" "scared of free thought" "triggered" "anti-American" "anti-white" "just accept the election results" "whining" "sjw" "libtard" (cringes)

 

I realize I'll get banned for calling this out but let there be no question as to why, when it happens: the mods would rather have literal nazis on this board than people who are just here to discuss tech.

 

 

[Guest]

I too am considering leaving. This site has become literal cancer.

I'm really starting to hate the demographic that hangs around here and I wish everyone could be more professional and less like 14 year olds.

In the end I watch LTT for Linus and I try to avoid everyone else.

[kelvinhall05]

Wait, what? I don't feel like reading this, can I have a TL;DR?

EDIT: Lol, just realized I'm almost at 1,500 posts

EDIT #2: Making rants like this are just going to make the forum worse. You're like those girls in 2nd grade that think it will be quieter if they shout "SHUT UP!!!!!" as loud as they can.

[epickiller272]

12 minutes ago, Builder said:

When I left this board two years ago I feared the forum was headed in a bad direction with regards to how politics was being moderated, and I had better ways to spend my time than arguing with people over whether or not sexism is real and prevalent. After voicing those concerns I was informed by Slick that the rules had changed and that everything stupid that happened around the time of GamerGate wouldn't happen again. I still do have better ways to spend my time, and I realize that for those of you who never knew me I'm not missed and for those that did know me one user doesn't really mean much. But I thought it prudent to make this thread because I was horrified at the sheer cravenness of some of the shit around here. The sheer fucked-uppedness of this flaming shitpile of a forum was not apparent at first breach and probably still isn't to a lot of you, but just in case there's any confusion about why I left, this idiot's profile is a good encapsulation of why:

https://linustechtips.com/main/profile/143680-survivornvl/

 

Okay, what the fuck is going on here? The dude has a white nationalist flag on his profile and calls himself an "American Ultranationalist?" And what's more is he's said 

(of George Soros, the conspiracy theories surrounding which are far too silly to even warrant refuting. The dude's a centrist. You want to know what he believes, read Karl Popper. And speaking of Popper...well we'll get to that later.)

 

 

Why is this considered acceptable behavior? Forget your opinion of feminism or the left in general, a forum on which blatant white-nationalism and support of nazism is considered within the range of acceptable discourse is far too close to Stormfront for my tastes, and I cannot imagine I'm the only person that feels this way. I will refer you to the philosopher of science Karl Popper's evaluation of the paradox of tolerance:

Let's pause for a second and consider the difference between liberalism and leftism in this instance, and why I side with the liberals. This is a fundamentally liberal position in the political science sense, in that Popper does not want the intolerant to be slain en masse the way leftists do, he would just prefer not to have to argue rationally with Nazis who are speaking from a fundamentally unscientific and irrational position. Seriously, ask any Nazi or fascist. Rationalism and enlightenment are for liberals, Julius Evola prefers esoteric religious (even "magic") philosophy which eschews entirely the liberal convention of rational discourse.

 

As it happens this post is a pretty decent summation of why I don't bother engaging here anymore, because I cite Popper to trash internet nazis and argue about this shit day in and day out forever and ever and those skills are best put to use elsewhere.

 

Just for the hell of it, I'll predict what 90% of the responses to this post will be. I urge you to avoid using these phrases and variations thereof if you do choose to reply because their unsoundness has been demonstrated above: "suppressing freedom of speech" "creating an echo chamber" "safe space" "intolerant" "scared of free thought" "triggered" "anti-American" "anti-white" "just accept the election results" "whining" "sjw" "libtard" (cringes)

 

I realize I'll get banned for calling this out but let there be no question as to why, when it happens: the mods would rather have literal nazis on this board than people who are just here to discuss tech.

 

 

This avoidance of ban will result in an IP BAN
RIP

[kelvinhall05]

19 minutes ago, Lord_Doge said:

I too am considering leaving. This site has become literal cancer.

I'm really starting to hate the demographic that hangs around here and I wish everyone could be more professional and less like 14 year olds.

In the end I watch LTT for Linus and I try to avoid everyone else.

 

I find it amusing how you want "professionalism" in a HOBBY. People are supposed to enjoy it, no matter their age (I'm only 11). How is this site cancer? What makes you think that 14 year olds can't be professional (again, hence my age. I probably know more about computers than you do).

[Guest Kloaked]

tl;dr "I can't stand it when someone doesn't think the way that I do, so I'm going to post a retarded "I'm leaving" thread and link a bunch of music videos, quote someone and tell you about how great my way of thinking is compared to people who I disagree with."

[AlwaysFSX]

1 minute ago, Kloaked said:

tl;dr "I can't stand it when someone doesn't think the way that I do, so I'm going to post a retarded "I'm leaving" thread and link a bunch of music videos, quote someone and tell you about how great my way of thinking is compared to people who I disagree with."

Oh I was actually about to ask for a tl;dr for shit that we went over two years ago.

[Guest Kloaked]

Just now, AlwaysFSX said:

Oh I was actually about to ask for a tl;dr for shit that we went over two years ago.

Are you oppressing me?

[AlwaysFSX]

1 minute ago, Kloaked said:

Are you oppressing me?

Is it working?

[Guest Kloaked]

Just now, AlwaysFSX said:

Is it working?

Enough that someone had to make a thread about it, you shitlord. Don't you know this is serious business?

[Radiant]

37 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

I find it amusing how you want "professionalism" in a HOBBY. People are supposed to enjoy it, no matter their age (I'm only 11). How is this site cancer? What makes you think that 14 year olds can't be professional (again, hence my age. I probably know more about computers than you do).

either you are a natural genius, or your dad tought you alot....anyway, i like that you actually use proper grammar unlike 99% of people on this forum

[AlwaysFSX]

Just now, Kloaked said:

Enough that someone had to make a thread about it, you shitlord. Don't you know this is serious business?

Shit I forgot. We're supposed to care 99% of people are mentally defunct.

[Guest Kloaked]

Just now, Radiant said:

either you are a natural genius, or your dad tought you alot....anyway, i like that you actually use proper grammar unlike 99% of people on this forum

You're missing some periods and capitalization, there.

[Radiant]

Just now, Kloaked said:

You're missing some periods and capitalization, there.

i am too lazy to use every button on my keyboard, sorry

[Guest Kloaked]

Just now, Radiant said:

i am too lazy to use every button on my keyboard, sorry

Yeah but your laziness triggers me, therefore you should be banned.

[AlwaysFSX]

Just now, Kloaked said:

Yeah but your laziness triggers me, therefore you should be banned.

[Radiant]

1 minute ago, Kloaked said:

Yeah but your laziness triggers me, therefore you should be banned.

if lazyness would be bannable, i would not even be allowed on the internet

[BuckGup]

Let's break this down. 

This post solves nothing, probably causes more harm then good.

Also. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS and BELIEFS. You have to respect them. Now if they are stating an opinion like a fact then you can call them out on it

[stconquest]

Just now, Radiant said:

either you are a natural genius, or your dad tought you alot....anyway, i like that you actually use proper grammar unlike 99% of people on this forum

Dude, relax.  I am the "new" resident SJW, libtard.

 

One of the two guys above me here whined about having different opinions/views than his own on display here so much that they shut down the politics/religion debate about three weeks ago.  I think it had to do with how bad the new president is so far.  It is a hard pill to swallow for some of his supporters.

 

There is a very loud minority that is truly accepting of bigotry, and some of them take pride in derogatory acts against their chosen targets. 

 

Anyways... getting through the rest of your post.

 

 

[Radiant]

1 minute ago, stconquest said:

Dude, relax.  I am the "new" resident SJW, libtard.

 

One of the two guys above me here whined about having different opinions/views than his own on display here so much that they shut down the politics/religion debate about three weeks ago.  I think it had to do with how bad the new president is so far.  It is a hard pill to swallow for some of his supporters.

 

There is a very loud minority that is truly accepting of bigotry, and some of them take pride in derogatory acts against their chosen targets. 

 

Anyways... getting through the rest of your post.

 

 

i live in austria, so i dont get involed in US politics. but i am very unhappy with out new vegan, anti military, "get all refugees from syria" president too...

[stconquest]

Just now, Radiant said:

i live in austria, so i dont get involed in US politics. but i am very unhappy with out new vegan, anti military, "get all refugees from syria" president too...

There are no shortage of distractions to train the prying eye from real problems, whether they come form any side.

 

....back to your post. 

[Guest Kloaked]

3 minutes ago, stconquest said:

Dude, relax.  I am the "new" resident SJW, libtard.

 

One of the two guys above me here whined about having different opinions/views than his own on display here so much that they shut down the politics/religion debate about three weeks ago.  I think it had to do with how bad the new president is so far.  It is a hard pill to swallow for some of his supporters.

 

There is a very loud minority that is truly accepting of bigotry, and some of them take pride in derogatory acts against their chosen targets. 

 

Anyways... getting through the rest of your post.

Wrong. What happened was you and Ivan were being total dicks and some others decided to be dicks back, and when you two couldn't simmer down I decided to start actually reporting you since you two were clearly breaking the CoC even more so than the people you were arguing with.

[stconquest]

Just now, Kloaked said:

Wrong. What happened was you and Ivan were being total dicks and some others decided to be dicks back, and when you two couldn't simmer down I decided to start actually reporting you since you two were clearly breaking the CoC even more so than the people you were arguing with.

Go away please.

 

I did not read your post, saving it for later.

[Radiant]

Just now, stconquest said:

There are no shortage of distractions to train the prying eye from real problems, whether they come form any side.

 

....back to your post. 

what do you mean, back to my post?

[Radiant]

Just now, Kloaked said:

Wrong. What happened was you and Ivan were being total dicks and some others decided to be dicks back, and when you two couldn't simmer down I decided to start actually reporting you since you two were clearly breaking the CoC even more so than the people you were arguing with.

this post is really stupid in my opinion

 

edit: i mean this whole post by the OP