Does overclocking have to be this tedious?

[unregistered]

You up the freq/voltage, and then you try to do a short stress test to see if it passes, if it does you do it until it fails then downclock abit and do an 8 hour stress test, if it fails you downclock and redo the 8 hours stress test. Is there any shortcut or way around this?

[themctipers]

no

 

that is the most reliable way of doing it

 

i personally do 12 hours for the stress tests, i dont want any downtime at all.

[be_x]

You can usually look up the maximum recomended overclock for your type of cooling situation online and just set it at that. No need to squeeze an extra 1 ghz or whatever

[W-L]

15 minutes ago, unregistered said:

You up the freq/voltage, and then you try to do a short stress test to see if it passes, if it does you do it until it fails then downclock abit and do an 8 hour stress test, if it fails you downclock and redo the 8 hours stress test. Is there any shortcut or way around this?

Not to properly dial in a good overclock, there are auto overclock settings on most motherboards but from the results I've seen they apply too much voltage for too little overclock. 

[Drak3]

3 minutes ago, W-L said:

Not to properly dial in a good overclock, there are auto overclock settings on most motherboards but from the results I've seen they apply too much voltage for too little overclock. 

JayzTwoCents played around with MSI's Gameboost found on boards like the X99A Gaming Pro Carbon and the Z270 Gaming M7, and his conclusion that was any additional work trying to outdo gameboost would be a decent deal of work for minimal payoff.

[W-L]

29 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

JayzTwoCents played around with MSI's Gameboost found on boards like the X99A Gaming Pro Carbon and the Z270 Gaming M7, and his conclusion that was any additional work trying to outdo gameboost would be a decent deal of work for minimal payoff.

They may have improve it in the recent boards which would be good, in my experience I haven't see a lot of good results with most of the auto-overclocks since they vary quite heavily. 

[smokefest]

19 minutes ago, W-L said:

They may have improve it in the recent boards which would be good, in my experience I haven't see a lot of good results with most of the auto-overclocks since they vary quite heavily. 

same here. Auto overclocks always send too much vo ltage resulting in much more heat

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, smokefest said:

same here. Auto overclocks always send too much vo ltage resulting in much more heat

Unless something on the system raises the input voltage, or, for whatever reason, sends more voltage than required for a load when using the automated system (which a decent board won't), there won't be any difference in temperatures running the same clock at the same loads.

[MageTank]

1 hour ago, unregistered said:

You up the freq/voltage, and then you try to do a short stress test to see if it passes, if it does you do it until it fails then downclock abit and do an 8 hour stress test, if it fails you downclock and redo the 8 hours stress test. Is there any shortcut or way around this?

I have a methodology that I use that helps to speed up the process. The very first thing I do when overclocking, is test for the highest possible clock speed that my CPU cooler can tolerate, using very thermally demanding tests (small FFT Prime95 or LinX). It takes about 10-15 minutes to complete, and will give me a rough estimate on how high I can actually go from a thermal standpoint. I normally start with a high voltage and low clock speed, and slowly work my way up 100mhz at a time. Once heat gets out of control, I lower voltage, and try again. I repeat this process until it either fails the test, or fails to post. 

 

Once we learn our thermal limitations, we move on to actually trying to make the highest clock speed within that thermal limitation, stable. You already know the max voltage:clock speed you can handle from the thermal test, so you know that increasing the voltage to make that clock stable won't be possible. From here on out, you will likely have to lower the clock speed to get stability, since you've peaked your max vcore from a thermal perspective. We switch to a slower, longer test (1344k-1344k FFT Prime95 custom blend for example) to test the stability of the vcore itself. Some of the more extreme overclockers will recommend 20+ hours of this, but I've personally found 8 hours to be enough. Keep in mind: activating a highly clocked XMP profile, or manually overclocking your ram will add heat to your total CPU package during these tests, which may or may not have been accounted for in your original thermal tests. Luckily, 1344k isn't hot compared to small FFT's.

 

Using this methodology, I am able to figure out my CPU's maximum possible overclock within less than a days time, assuming you don't repeatedly fail the tests. I am sure others have their methods, and their preferred programs, but this is just what I do personally.

[Mooshi]

I used to care, but now I don't give AF. I have a job. I live with the person I love I give attention to. I'm not gonna dick about for hrs for online epeen measuring lol.. 4.4Ghz auto is more than enough for an itx box with a $30 cooler. 

[Jumper118]

10 hours ago, Drak3 said:

JayzTwoCents played around with MSI's Gameboost found on boards like the X99A Gaming Pro Carbon and the Z270 Gaming M7, and his conclusion that was any additional work trying to outdo gameboost would be a decent deal of work for minimal payoff.

Apart from msi probably 1.35 vccio and sa voltage through the 7700k on auto volts so it will probably die within warranty period. 

[Drak3]

7 hours ago, Jumper118 said:

Apart from msi probably 1.35 vccio and sa voltage through the 7700k on auto volts so it will probably die within warranty period. 

MSI's auto overclock doesn't jump to voltages that would kill a CPU within it's usable lifespan. It does see similar results to someone going in and testing a clock speed at different voltages, with better accuracy than newbies to overclocking.

[Jumper118]

17 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

MSI's auto overclock doesn't jump to voltages that would kill a CPU within it's usable lifespan. It does see similar results to someone going in and testing a clock speed at different voltages, with better accuracy than newbies to overclocking.

yes they do. they even do it a stock speed if you use fast ram. MSI boards are generally on auto. I had a z170 m7 gaming and it was a good board, but i set everything myself so it was ok.