From 960 to 1060 3GB

[Waqas409]

So im thinking of buying 1060 3GB Version but need some opinion from you guys. I know i can see benchmarks from youtube or comparison from google but i just need to know.
What you guys think about how much there will be performance difference if i upgrade it from gtx 960 4gb ver to 1060 3GB ver. ( talking about 1080p Gaming only ).

The reason im saying is because i played FOR HONOR few days ago, with maxed out i was getting 40s FPS ( 1080p ), i saw the usage there wasnt any bottleneck but gpu was above 80-90% and CPU was 70-75%sh

I feel like 960 isnt powerfull for new titles at 1080p any more.
 

 

My Specs are:
X5460 @4Ghz
8GB RAM

GTX 960 4GB

Please don't start a war about bottlenecking n stuff. As this xeon can handle 1060 easily in 95% games without any huge bottlenecking. 

EDIT: Reason im going with 1060 3GB Ver is LOW BUDGET. As i will sell this 960 for $190-$200 USD ( used USD so all can understand ). and New GTX 1060 3GB Costs $280, which is under my budget.
Where as 480X cheapest starts from $350.

[TheRandomness]

An RX 480 (any VRAM amount) would be a better purchase as A: The 4GB ones cost less and B: They perform the same or better. 

[rafazafar]

Go buy it. Personally i would go for the RX470(not 480). But whichever you can get a better deal on is fine. 
470,480,1060 3gb are all good cards. 
normally 470 would be 90% as fast as 480, but alot cheaper. just like 1060 3gb and 1060 6gb.

[DisconnectedYT]

The 1060 WAS better then a RX480 but no longer is due to lots and LOTS of driver updates from AMD

If you can spare a bit of extra cash i would reccomend opting for the AMD RX480 8GB as it has more then double the Vram and i can run most games at High 60FPS 1440P

 

P.S: My friend has a 960 4GB and it runs 1080P games at max setting 40FPS (thats in the Witcher 3 tho) i would say maybe 1 year and then you will have to upgrade.

[Droidbot]

3 minutes ago, rafazafar said:

Go buy it. Personally i would go for the RX470. But whichever you can get a better deal on is fine
 

remember, 

480 4GB > 1060 3GB > 470 4GB

[Waqas409]

2 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

remember, 

480 4GB > 1060 3GB > 470 4GB

Interesting.. 

[Waqas409]

6 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

An RX 480 (any VRAM amount) would be a better purchase as A: The 4GB ones cost less and B: They perform the same or better. 

But sadly 480 is out of my budget thats why im planning to get a 1060 3gb ver

[rafazafar]

1 minute ago, Waqas409 said:

But sadly 480 is out of my budget thats why im planning to get a 1060 3gb ver

1060 3gb is a solid upgrade. Go get it  good price to perf ratio.

[TheRandomness]

2 minutes ago, Waqas409 said:

But sadly 480 is out of my budget thats why im planning to get a 1060 3gb ver

Well, try for a 6GB one, any would be fine. Nvidia cut some shaders off the 3GB version for some reason, but if you can't find anything else, then the 3GB one would be fine. 

[DisconnectedYT]

5 minutes ago, Waqas409 said:

But sadly 480 is out of my budget thats why im planning to get a 1060 3gb ver

If you HAVE TO buy the 1060 >:C then get the 6GB version, the 3GB version cant even play medium Rainbow Six Siege at 1080P Cause it runs out of Vram and dont even try playing BF1 with it. but the 6GB version is ok.

[Waqas409]

1 minute ago, DisconnectedYT said:

If you HAVE TO buy the 1060 >:C then get the 6GB version, the 3GB version cant even play medium Rainbow Six Siege at 1080P Cause it runs out of Vram and dont even try playing BF1 with it. but the 6GB version is ok.

really?
I have tested Rainbow Six Siege at 1080p Maxed with 960 4GB. Game was using 2.7GB from 4GB, was getting 60+ fps all the time.

[rafazafar]

8 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

remember, 

480 4GB > 1060 3GB > 470 4GB

Really depends on what games hes gonna play  
Either way OP, try to get a 1060 3GB with two fans as that chip can overclock quite well  so it might be worth that extra 10bucks for the better cooling. 

[DisconnectedYT]

1 minute ago, Waqas409 said:

really?
I have tested Rainbow Six Siege at 1080p Maxed with 960 4GB. Game was using 2.7GB from 4GB, was getting 60+ fps all the time.

hmmm.... for me it might be taking up a bit more Vram cause i have 2560X1080p..... still wouldnt go ffor a 3GB GPU these days.

[rafazafar]

1 minute ago, Waqas409 said:

really?
I have tested Rainbow Six Siege at 1080p Maxed with 960 4GB. Game was using 2.7GB from 4GB, was getting 60+ fps all the time.

I have done alot of testing on these cards too. There will be some uninque cases where the 3gb will "bottleneck" . but at 1080p. get the 3gb.

Overclock that 1060 ok  its begging to be overclocked. haha. just dont overvolt it much unless its EVGA with a 10 year warranty.
 

[Waqas409]

3 minutes ago, DisconnectedYT said:

hmmm.... for me it might be taking up a bit more Vram cause i have 2560X1080p..... still wouldnt go ffor a 3GB GPU these days.

yea i was playing at 1920x1080p. 

[Droidbot]

1 minute ago, rafazafar said:

Really depends on what games hes gonna play  
Either way OP, try to get a 1060 3GB with two fans as that chip can overclock quite well  so it might be worth that extra 10bucks for the better cooling. 

Nvidia chips? Overclocking? Have fun with pushing it +125Mhz on the core and then being forced to push the voltage higher. 480 8GB I've seen pushed +200Mhz out of the box. Cooling is worth it for bad airflow cases tho

[rafazafar]

Yes i have 480 4gb, 470 4gb , 1060 3gb and an older 390x and 970 on hand right now. the 1060 is running stable 1900 on stock volts. i have seen some push beyond 2000. My rx480 isnt OCing so well. +120 ish. but the 470 is OCing much better. Its pretty much caught up with the 480. 

AMDs can OC, but u need to be lucky. Nvidia chips tend to be better at OCing in general. From my experiance atleast, and i fix, test broken GPUs for a living haha. 

 

Nothing outside the advertised clock speeds are guaranteed. but if u wanna take a bet, nvidia will OC more, atleast for now. I love how AMD drivers matures better tho  RIP old Nvidia GPUs

Note: increment by MHz doesnt tell much. % increment is more important, thus a small + on AMD cards result in much better gain.

[Droidbot]

2 minutes ago, rafazafar said:

Yes i have 480 4gb, 470 4gb , 1060 3gb and an older 390x on hand right now. the 1060 is running stable 1900 on stock volts. i have seen some push beyond 2000. My rx480 isnt OCing so well. +120 ish. but the 470 is OCing much better. Its pretty much caught up with the 480. 

AMDs can OC, but u need to be lucky. Nvidia chips tend to be better at OCing in general. From my experiance atleast, and i fix, test broken GPUs for a living haha. 

Note: increment by MHz doesnt tell much. % increment is more important, thus a small + on AMD cards result in much better gain

issue with 470 is that it does OC very well, but it has a low base and a high turbo, meaning that while avg is on par with 480, mins are sometimes even halved. that's because 480 starts at 1.1Ghz whereas 470 starts at 920/930Mhz and turbos to 1.1/1.2.

on paper it seems fine, but in reality it's very, very different. 

 

I killed my 770 by OCing the memory too far, one memory chip (I assume first/second, since it doesn't blackscreen in games, it crashes on desktop) 

 

What OEM 480? XFX XXX BE runs at 1338Mhz turbo factory OC, pushable to 1.4 if you really try on stockvoltage

[rafazafar]

14 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

issue with 470 is that it does OC very well, but it has a low base and a high turbo, meaning that while avg is on par with 480, mins are sometimes even halved. that's because 480 starts at 1.1Ghz whereas 470 starts at 920/930Mhz and turbos to 1.1/1.2.

on paper it seems fine, but in reality it's very, very different. 

 

I killed my 770 by OCing the memory too far, one memory chip (I assume first/second, since it doesn't blackscreen in games, it crashes on desktop) 

 

What OEM 480? XFX XXX BE runs at 1338Mhz turbo factory OC, pushable to 1.4 if you really try on stockvoltage

7xx series wernt good  thank god i skipped those for my personal rig.

Are you talking about frame time dips? on the 470? i didnt notice it any more than on the 480 or 1060. at 1080. usually slower/unstable CPU causes more dips. That or unstable overclocks.

This 480 on hand is an ASUS OEM running on a cpu AIO right now cus the fan broke. max i can stable out of it is 1320. its alright. but yeah 1320-1380 seems to be the normal limit without any advance tweaks.

The bottom line is :
RX 480 OC about 6-7%

RX 470 OC about 10-12%
gtx 1060 OC about 12-15%
 

[MageTank]

53 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

Nvidia chips? Overclocking? Have fun with pushing it +125Mhz on the core and then being forced to push the voltage higher. 480 8GB I've seen pushed +200Mhz out of the box. Cooling is worth it for bad airflow cases tho

What? Pascal doesn't scale with voltage, at all. I've tinkered with a total of 3 GTX 1070's, and none of them scale with voltage. @Lays doesn't scale, neither do any of the Pascal cards that my friends have in our hardware group. As for overclocking, they clock just fine. I just took an EVGA 1070 FTW DT from 1920 boost up to 2228 using Afterburners core-curve overclocking feature. That's a 200mhz overclock (granted, a very rare sample). 

 

GPU Boost 3.0 is a different beast entirely. You can't just throw +x at the core clock, and expect higher overclocks to be stable. It's all about editing the clock curve. Before touching that curve, I was limited to 2150mhz. A solid 78mhz difference. 

 

EDIT: Here is the result of the 2228 1070 in action on 3dmark: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11554845. That's not my i5, as the test was performed on my cousins PC (my personal 1070 is just an EVGA 1070 SC, only does 2050mhz). Pascal is less about voltage, and more about avoiding power limits and winning the lottery. At 2050mhz, I hit my 108% power limit, while the 1070 FTW hits it's 122% power limit at 2228mhz.