Where is my transfer speed bottleneck

[Amit Moryossef]

I just got a WD My Cloud, and am now 

I am trying to transfer all the backups from my PC to that NAS.

When transferring I only get ~10Mbps.

Disk usage is just 10% 

 

My computer is connected to an interface that is connected to the router.:

The WD device is connected to a switch, that is connected to an interface, that is connected to a switch that is connected to the router.
 

My router: https://www.netgear.com/service-providers/products/telco/gateways/vegn2610.aspx?cid=wmt_netgear_organic#tab-techspecs

And Switch connected to the router:

 

*Interface: All the cables are through the walls. So I have a 4 wire cable, that needs to be changed to a LAN. I put the cables in one side, and the lan goes on the other.

 

Switch connected to the interface:

 

 

Question:

What do you assume the bottleneck is?

 

[SaladFingers]

Make sure everything is using Gigabit and not 100mbit. Your router supports it, does the switch too? That 10MB/s speed is suspiciously close to the 100mbit limit.

[Amit Moryossef]

1 minute ago, SaladFingers said:

Make sure everything is using Gigabit and not 100mbit. Your router supports it, does the switch too? That 10MB/s speed is suspiciously close to the 100mbit limit.

Yeah, it never goes above 11.5MB, that's even closer.

You said "your router supports it" - does that mean it does not necessarily uses it?

 

I will try connecting the WD straight to the router (thing is, no ports left) and see if speeds get better.

 

[SaladFingers]

1 minute ago, Amit Moryossef said:

Yeah, it never goes above 11.5MB, that's even closer.

You said "your router supports it" - does that mean it does not necessarily uses it?

 

I will try connecting the WD straight to the router (thing is, no ports left) and see if speeds get better.

 

 

Yeah, it's not necessarily using it. Windows will default at "auto" which will usually go for the maximum speed available, but weird things can happen between 2 machines negotiating their connection speed.

 

Go into both machines and under adapter properties force it to use "1.0 Gbps Full Duplex" or similar. Also make sure to disable any kind of "Green Ethernet" stuff.

 

If the switch itself doesn't support gigabit though, you'd have no other option that replacing it with one that does.

[Amit Moryossef]

This is from the PC:

 

I changed it to the setting you mentioned, it is still saying 100Mbps

The PC is connected to an interface, and then to the router

[Lurick]

To change from 100Mb to 1Gb you need to go to Device Manager > Network Adapters > Right click on the Adapter > Properties > Advanced > Speed & Duplex > Change to 1Gbit

 

Since Windows is defaulting to 100Mbit I'm going to guess that forcing it to 1Gbit will result in connectivity loss. Can you get us the model of the switch so we can confirm if it is indeed a 100Mbit switch?

[Amit Moryossef]

9 minutes ago, Lurick said:

To change from 100Mb to 1Gb you need to go to Device Manager > Network Adapters > Right click on the Adapter > Properties > Advanced > Speed & Duplex > Change to 1Gbit

 

Since Windows is defaulting to 100Mbit I'm going to guess that forcing it to 1Gbit will result in connectivity loss. Can you get us the model of the switch so we can confirm if it is indeed a 100Mbit switch?

I decided to do a clean test:

Connected a laptop directly to the router.

I changed the network speed and duplex to a 1gbit full duplex, and it is still saying 100Mbps.

Laptop: https://www.asus.com/us/Notebooks/ASUS-ZenBook-Pro-UX501VW/

 

EDIT:

Laptop does not have LAN, and comes with an included LAN -> USB addapter.

[SaladFingers]

22 minutes ago, Amit Moryossef said:

This is from the PC:

 

I changed it to the setting you mentioned, it is still saying 100Mbps

The PC is connected to an interface, and then to the router

That means that there is something else limiting you on the way. You need to check everything and make sure they all support 1gbit. If even one thing in the chain defaults to 100mbit, then it bottlenecks everything else.

[Lurick]

8 minutes ago, Amit Moryossef said:

I decided to do a clean test:

Connected a laptop directly to the router.

I changed the network speed and duplex to a 1gbit full duplex, and it is still saying 100Mbps.

Laptop: https://www.asus.com/us/Notebooks/ASUS-ZenBook-Pro-UX501VW/

Did you connect them through the wall or directly to the router with a single cable?

[Amit Moryossef]

Just now, Lurick said:

Did you connect them through the wall or directly to the router with a single cable?

Directly to the router with a single cable.

I connected just the laptop, to see if it would say 1Gbit

[SaladFingers]

I'm suspecting it's your switch. Can you share the model number?

[Lurick]

9 minutes ago, Amit Moryossef said:

Directly to the router with a single cable.

I connected just the laptop, to see if it would say 1Gbit

Aha! From the laptop specs:

 

Networking

Dual-band 802.11 b/g/n or 802.11 ac
Built-in Bluetooth™ V4.0
10/100 Base T

 

So it looks like the adapter is 100Mbit, you'll need to get another adapter that can do gigabit, but also if you can get the model of the switch as well so we can make sure that will do gigabit that would be good too.

[Amit Moryossef]

1 minute ago, SaladFingers said:

I'm suspecting it's your switch. Can you share the model number?

Both switches are indeed 100Mbps. your hunch was right.

The interface is nameless, (just a metal box, no text anywhere), and because I am connected to it, and from there straight to the router, and my computer shows me a 100Mbps, I deduce that it is 100 as well.

 

1 minute ago, Lurick said:

Ah! From the laptop specs:

 

Networking

Dual-band 802.11 b/g/n or 802.11 ac
Built-in Bluetooth™ V4.0
10/100 Base T

 

So it looks like the adapter is 100Mbit, you'll need to get another adapter that can do gigabit.

Nice detective work! So why does it even show me a 1Gbit option? stupid windows.

 

 

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So basically everything is 100Mbps, except for the router. Is there a way for me to check if my computer network supports 1Gbit at all? I looked online, and it says that if it shows me the 1Gbit option it should support, but as learned from the laptop, even if it shows it does not support.

If my computer supports 1Gbit, I guess Ill look into upgrading everything.

[Lurick]

2 minutes ago, Amit Moryossef said:

Both switches are indeed 100Mbps. your hunch was right.

The interface is nameless, (just a metal box, no text anywhere), and because I am connected to it, and from there straight to the router, and my computer shows me a 100Mbps, I deduce that it is 100 as well.

 

Nice detective work! So why does it even show me a 1Gbit option? stupid windows.

 

 

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So basically everything is 100Mbps, except for the router. Is there a way for me to check if my computer network supports 1Gbit at all? I looked online, and it says that if it shows me the 1Gbit option it should support, but as learned from the laptop, even if it shows it does not support.

If my computer supports 1Gbit, I guess Ill look into upgrading everything.

Yah, USB 3.0 support gigabit speeds, or at least close to gigabit. You can get a gigabit adapter for like $20 and a couple 8 port gigabit switches for maybe $50 each.

As for Windows, I have a 10Gig NIC in my PC and even though it only works at 10Gig speeds with the current SFP, it still shows the 1Gig option.

[leadeater]

Get the model of the computer, if off the shelf e.g. HP, or the model of the motherboard then just google that and go to the manufacture website. It will be clearly stated in the hardware specifications what it supports.

[SaladFingers]

2 minutes ago, Amit Moryossef said:

Both switches are indeed 100Mbps. your hunch was right.

The interface is nameless, (just a metal box, no text anywhere), and because I am connected to it, and from there straight to the router, and my computer shows me a 100Mbps, I deduce that it is 100 as well.

 

Nice detective work! So why does it even show me a 1Gbit option? stupid windows.

 

 

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So basically everything is 100Mbps, except for the router. Is there a way for me to check if my computer network supports 1Gbit at all? I looked online, and it says that if it shows me the 1Gbit option it should support, but as learned from the laptop, even if it shows it does not support.

If my computer supports 1Gbit, I guess Ill look into upgrading everything.

Most modern desktop motherboards support 1gbit. Only way to make sure is to look it up

 

I'm not very sure about what "the interface" is doing. Is it acting like a switch? Or does it convert optical signals? Not familiar with that kind of setup, we still have modem+router combos where I live.

 

 

[Amit Moryossef]

10 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Yah, USB 3.0 support gigabit speeds, or at least close to gigabit. You can get a gigabit adapter for like $20 and a couple 8 port gigabit switches for maybe $50 each.

As for Windows, I have a 10Gig NIC in my PC and even though it only works at 10Gig speeds with the current SFP, it still shows the 1Gig option.

10Gig

This seems to be enough, right?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TP-LINK-TL-SG108-8-PORT-GIGABIT-SWITCH-NEU-/112092326717?hash=item1a19392b3d:g:CwIAAOSwHoFXrfXi

 

10 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Get the model of the computer, if off the shelf e.g. HP, or the model of the motherboard then just google that and go to the manufacture website. It will be clearly stated in the hardware specifications what it supports.

Custom PC (we are still on the linustechtips forum )

Motherboard is GA-H97-HD3, and it supports 1Gbit! Hurrah!

 

8 minutes ago, SaladFingers said:

Most modern desktop motherboards support 1gbit. Only way to make sure is to look it up

 

I'm not very sure about what "the interface" is doing. Is it acting like a switch? Or does it convert optical signals? Not familiar with that kind of setup, we still have modem+router combos where I live.

 

 

I don't want to take it apart to show you the input cables, because it's a mess. Ill need to find how it is called, and get a new better one, without my dad saying it is useless. Tricky.

[Lurick]

3 minutes ago, Amit Moryossef said:

10Gig

This seems to be enough, right?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TP-LINK-TL-SG108-8-PORT-GIGABIT-SWITCH-NEU-/112092326717?hash=item1a19392b3d:g:CwIAAOSwHoFXrfXi

 

Custom PC (we are still on the linustechtips forum )

Motherboard is GA-H97-HD3, and it supports 1Gbit! Hurrah!

 

I don't want to take it apart to show you the input cables, because it's a mess. Ill need to find how it is called, and get a new better one, without my dad saying it is useless. Tricky.

Yah those switches should be plenty.

[SaladFingers]

I'm asking because it looks like some sort of a DIY switch made from your ISP or maybe came with the house idk... If that's the case it can also be replaced with a gigabit switch. If not then it's probably taking the land line and converting it.