Posted November 3, 2013 Hey, This is what I've been thinking for now. https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/a6f9e3220232724a37d6ce537d100bdd5fe102509924f2a21b9 Asus Z87-Pro Intel Core i7 4770K be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 2 8GB Corsair Vengeance LP Black DDR3-1600 2048MB Asus GeForce GTX 770 DirectCU II OC 256GB Samsung 840 Pro 3000GB WD Green Asus Xonar Essence STX Corsair AX760 Fractal Design Arc XL + one be quiet! fan I have plans that I could then upgrade the rig a bit later with another GTX 770 when the prices will drop a bit more but I'm not 100% sure if the PSU will be sufficient enough for it. 760W is enough? Also, I wouldn't want to spend much of my money on the rig later on so I'm just wondering whether getting two 770s would be a good way to make sure it's gonna run the games that come in the future on quite high settings. Currently I'm playing on a 1080p monitor and probably will for quite some time. How will the driver support be for two 770s on SLI for games let's say like in 2-3 years when they have released 800, 900 ... models? Would the 2GB memory bottleneck the 770s later in the future games? I guess getting a 780 could be an option too but right now I'm not sure how I'm not exactly sure what I should do with the graphics card. I'd just want it/them work well in the future without having to spend much on it later. . I'm not that much into AMD graphics cards either. So what do you guys think about my plans overall and what's your opinion on choosing the graphics card so that it wouldn't cost too much and would be "future proof" for quite a long time. I think the biggest question I have is that how will the cards in SLI scale in the future games when the cards get older. If they won't scale that well in the future I might consider just getting one GTX 780. And yea, I plan on overclocking everything . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 Cut the SSD in half, and get a 780. "Say it, do it, preach it, shout it, but never, absolutely never, believe your own bullshit" Credited with the whole female avatar trend Your thoughts here http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/67178-your-top-three/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 That PSU will be fine for two 770,s the cards always get driver updates so don't worry about that and SLI will still be in new games in a few years. But It might be worth putting off the build until you can afford one 780 Might consider dropping the soundcard... there is really no need for today's motherboards imho Intel I9-9900k (5Ghz) | Asus ROG Maximus XI Formula | Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR4-4133mhz | ASUS ROG Strix 2080Ti | EVGA Supernova G2 1050w 80+Gold | Samsung 950 Pro M.2 (512GB) + (1TB) | Full EK custom water loop |IN-WIN S-Frame (No. 263/500) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 the ax760 will do even for dual 780s but if you are gaming,get the i5 4670K and gtx 780. better performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 Drop the WD Green, get a 2TB Barracuda, slice that SSD in 1/2, get an i5 and get a single GTX 780. The price drops have done well. Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600 | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX | Storage: 512GB SKHynix PC401, 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 2x Micron 1100 256GB SATA SSDs | GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra 10GB | Cooling: ThermalTake Floe 280mm w/ be quiet! Pure Wings 3 | Case: Sliger SM580 (Black) | PSU: Lian Li SP 850W Server: CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Crucial DDR4 Pro | Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES | Storage: 128GB Samsung PM961, 4TB Seagate IronWolf | GPU: AMD FirePro WX 3100 | Cooling: EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB | Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow (White) | PSU: Seasonic Focus GM-850 Miscellaneous: Dell Optiplex 7060 Micro (i5-8500T/16GB/512GB), Lenovo ThinkCentre M715q Tiny (R5 2400GE/16GB/256GB), Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF (i5-6400/8GB/128GB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 if you only game, you dont need the 4770K, i would buy a 4670K, cut the SSD in half, drop the soundcard and you'll have enough money for a 780 ITX Monster: CPU: I5 4690K GPU: MSI 970 4G Mobo: Asus Formula VI Impact RAM: Kingston 8 GB 1600MHz PSU: Corsair RM 650 SSD: Crucial MX100 512 GB HDD: laptop drive 1TB Keyboard: logitech G710+ Mouse: Steelseries Rival Monitor: LG IPS 23" Case: Corsair 250D Cooling: H100i Mobile: Phone: Broken HTC One (M7) Totaly Broken OnePlus ONE Samsung S6 32GB :wub: Tablet: Google Nexus 7 2013 edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 Drop the WD Green, get a 2TB Barracuda, slice that SSD in 1/2, get an i5 and get a single GTX 780. The price drops have done well. damn beat me to it also drop the soundcard ITX Monster: CPU: I5 4690K GPU: MSI 970 4G Mobo: Asus Formula VI Impact RAM: Kingston 8 GB 1600MHz PSU: Corsair RM 650 SSD: Crucial MX100 512 GB HDD: laptop drive 1TB Keyboard: logitech G710+ Mouse: Steelseries Rival Monitor: LG IPS 23" Case: Corsair 250D Cooling: H100i Mobile: Phone: Broken HTC One (M7) Totaly Broken OnePlus ONE Samsung S6 32GB :wub: Tablet: Google Nexus 7 2013 edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 Author Cut the SSD in half, and get a 780. That PSU will be fine for two 770,s the cards always get driver updates so don't worry about that and SLI will still be in new games in a few years. But It might be worth putting off the build until you can afford one 780 Might consider dropping the soundcard... there is really no need for today's motherboards imho the ax760 will do even for dual 780s but if you are gaming,get the i5 4670K and gtx 780. better performance Drop the WD Green, get a 2TB Barracuda, slice that SSD in 1/2, get an i5 and get a single GTX 780. The price drops have done well. You guys think getting one 780 would be better than getting two 770s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 You guys think getting one 780 would be better than getting two 770s? yes very much so.... two cards is great if the game(s) you are playing support SLI but if they dont. your other card is just almost wasted. Always best to get 1 good card than two meh cards. Intel I9-9900k (5Ghz) | Asus ROG Maximus XI Formula | Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR4-4133mhz | ASUS ROG Strix 2080Ti | EVGA Supernova G2 1050w 80+Gold | Samsung 950 Pro M.2 (512GB) + (1TB) | Full EK custom water loop |IN-WIN S-Frame (No. 263/500) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 You guys think getting one 780 would be better than getting two 770s? Yes. Always go for a single higher end card than two lower end cards. Even if the lower end ones perform better (which they will) they don't have the VRAM, the 770 doesn't have the bus width to handle 4GB, they will be hotter, will consume more power, have less compatibility with older games and games that have ill support for SLI/CrossfireX, and have more of a chance of failing. It's like RAID 0. Risky, but FAST. Except you can't back up a graphics card (no shit, Sherlock) Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600 | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX | Storage: 512GB SKHynix PC401, 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 2x Micron 1100 256GB SATA SSDs | GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra 10GB | Cooling: ThermalTake Floe 280mm w/ be quiet! Pure Wings 3 | Case: Sliger SM580 (Black) | PSU: Lian Li SP 850W Server: CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Crucial DDR4 Pro | Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES | Storage: 128GB Samsung PM961, 4TB Seagate IronWolf | GPU: AMD FirePro WX 3100 | Cooling: EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB | Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow (White) | PSU: Seasonic Focus GM-850 Miscellaneous: Dell Optiplex 7060 Micro (i5-8500T/16GB/512GB), Lenovo ThinkCentre M715q Tiny (R5 2400GE/16GB/256GB), Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF (i5-6400/8GB/128GB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 Author Okay, thanks guys! I will look into getting 780 then . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 @Jon107 Are you going to use this system mainly for gaming ot are there other applications you are going to utilize. If youre only gonna use it for gaming another setup might be a better value. Also what is your max buget? Interested in Business and Technology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 Wait a week or two until 780Ti arrives. I bet the 780 will drop to 350€ Mini-Desktop: NCASE M1 Build LogMini-Server: M350 Build Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 Get an i5 instead of the i7. You will only see at most a 10% performance increase with an i7 if the program is written to take advantage of hyper-threading. Otherwise the performance is lower than 10% if the OS is diving tasks to virtual cores. Not worth the 33% increase in cost.Get a 780 instead of a 770.Don't know about your speaker setup, but if it's not top-notch then I would think about dropping the sound card to save the money. i5-3570K @4.2ghz | Gigabyte Z77-DS3H | 16GB G. Skill Ripjaw 1600mhz 9-9-9-24 (2x8GB) | 120GB Vertex 3/640GB WD 7200RPM | AMD HD7950 @ 1025mhz | 600W Corsair CS600 | Hyper 212 CPU Cooler | 5x 120mm fans 79cfm | Ultra Defender Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 Author @Jon107 Are you going to use this system mainly for gaming ot are there other applications you are going to utilize. If youre only gonna use it for gaming another setup might be a better value. Also what is your max buget? I don't really have a budget but I wouldn't wanna go much over what's in there. The computer will be mostly for gaming but I do store a lot data on my computer and I've seen that I need the SSD space for all my stuff . Not 100% sure about the sound card and I might be able to drop the 4770k for 4670k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 Wait a week or two until 780Ti arrives. I bet the 780 will drop to 350€ Probably not. The price of the 780 is superb ATM it's like 420 euros and if it'll drop down more than that nvidia will probably make a 'loss' or break even because remember : GK-110 is a big chip and expensive to maunafacturer Interested in Business and Technology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 get an evga 770 which has those gold(ish) accents. Aesthetics of rigs matter 42 If you're interested, participate in LTT Build Offs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 This should be a good Pc for around 1600 € : https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php and get this ram http://geizhals.at/de/g-skill-ripjawsx-dimm-kit-16gb-f3-2133c9d-16gxh-a739429.html (normally you can get it on mindfactory but they are out of stock) My Pc: Cpu: I7 4790k @ 4,8 Ghz @1,25 volts, Motherboard: Maximus VII Formula, Graphicscard: 2x Titan X @1,4 at stock voltage (soon to be replaced), Ram: 32 gb Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 Cl 9, SSD: 2x 850 Pro 1 Tb in Raid 0, 2x Samsung 840 Evo 1 tb raid 1,, PSU: Corsair HXi Series 1000W 80+ Platinum, Case: H440. Soon to be watercooled again, maybe, probably, the Titans are too loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 Author This should be a good Pc for around 1600 € : https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php and get this ram http://geizhals.at/de/g-skill-ripjawsx-dimm-kit-16gb-f3-2133c9d-16gxh-a739429.html (normally you can get it on mindfactory but they are out of stock) The link to shopping cart doesn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 Wait a week or two until 780Ti arrives. I bet the 780 will drop to 350€ 350, no way dude, AMD is SOO screwed then... if AMD goes bankrupt no more pushing to NVIDIA and intel (not that they are pushing them anyway), prices will be damn high, NOOOO!!! thats just a doomsday senario.... ITX Monster: CPU: I5 4690K GPU: MSI 970 4G Mobo: Asus Formula VI Impact RAM: Kingston 8 GB 1600MHz PSU: Corsair RM 650 SSD: Crucial MX100 512 GB HDD: laptop drive 1TB Keyboard: logitech G710+ Mouse: Steelseries Rival Monitor: LG IPS 23" Case: Corsair 250D Cooling: H100i Mobile: Phone: Broken HTC One (M7) Totaly Broken OnePlus ONE Samsung S6 32GB :wub: Tablet: Google Nexus 7 2013 edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 350, no way dude, AMD is SOO screwed then... if AMD goes bankrupt no more pushing to NVIDIA and intel (not that they are pushing them anyway), prices will be damn high, NOOOO!!! thats just a doomsday senario.... Well let's just wait two weeks and see what happens when 780GHz and 780Ti arrive Maybe I am wrong, but 420€ for a GTX 780 and 260€ for a GTX 770 still seems like a good deal. Mini-Desktop: NCASE M1 Build LogMini-Server: M350 Build Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 Well let's just wait two weeks and see what happens when 780GHz and 780Ti arrive Maybe I am wrong, but 420€ for a GTX 780 and 260€ for a GTX 770 still seems like a good deal. is still amazing, i hope AMD wasn't hoping to keep this generation for 2 years like the last one.... ITX Monster: CPU: I5 4690K GPU: MSI 970 4G Mobo: Asus Formula VI Impact RAM: Kingston 8 GB 1600MHz PSU: Corsair RM 650 SSD: Crucial MX100 512 GB HDD: laptop drive 1TB Keyboard: logitech G710+ Mouse: Steelseries Rival Monitor: LG IPS 23" Case: Corsair 250D Cooling: H100i Mobile: Phone: Broken HTC One (M7) Totaly Broken OnePlus ONE Samsung S6 32GB :wub: Tablet: Google Nexus 7 2013 edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 The link to shopping cart doesn't work https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/5606182205460195112a91d88056fa898ee14bd15b1aaa49bba My Pc: Cpu: I7 4790k @ 4,8 Ghz @1,25 volts, Motherboard: Maximus VII Formula, Graphicscard: 2x Titan X @1,4 at stock voltage (soon to be replaced), Ram: 32 gb Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 Cl 9, SSD: 2x 850 Pro 1 Tb in Raid 0, 2x Samsung 840 Evo 1 tb raid 1,, PSU: Corsair HXi Series 1000W 80+ Platinum, Case: H440. Soon to be watercooled again, maybe, probably, the Titans are too loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 yes very much so.... two cards is great if the game(s) you are playing support SLI but if they dont. your other card is just almost wasted. Always best to get 1 good card than two meh cards. a 770 isnt exactly meh. i would love one if you had one leftover Intel 3570k 3,4@4,5 1,12v Scythe Mugen 3 gigabyte 770 MSi z77a GD55 corsair vengeance 8 gb corsair CX600M Bitfenix Outlaw 4 casefans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2013 The Seasonic G-Serie 550w is a better quality PSU and will last longer than the chosen RM. The RM series use CapXon and Ltec secondary caps, both which are not known for lasting long and being of good quality. And because of the Semi-passive design the caps can get nice and hot. Also I think your motherboard is way to expensive, if you want the plastic buy it, but consider the VI Hero that is ~€150,- cheaper. System:4670k@4,7Ghz <fully stable ( and 5Ghz, incredible unstable)| Asus Maximus VI Hero | G.Skill TridentX 16GB 2400Mhz C10 | AMD XFX R9 290 OC'ed (locked, Elpida) Cooled by a Kraken G10&X40 w/ NF-A14 | NZXT Phantom 530 | 2TB Seagate Barracuda | Samsung EVO 250GB | Cooler Master V850 | QNIX QX2710 @110Hz | Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 2 | Ducky Shine 3 ^^ | Madcatz R.A.T. 5 | Brainwavz Delta's | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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