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Upgraded i5 4460 to a i7 4790k, no difference.

Hey,

 

a few hours before a guy just installed me an i7 4790k... i was specting to see some difference while gaming but... no, still the same fps... exactly the same...

Any help?

My rig:

Z97X-GAMING 3 MOTHERBOARD

MSI GTX 970 4GB

I7 4790K 4.0Ghz

16gb hyperx savage ram.

 

Please help...

 

Thanks!

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Overclock it

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Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Overclock it

I never did that, but if you thats will help... i will do it.

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1 minute ago, Ricky_SHTK said:

Hey,

 

a few hours before a guy just installed me an i7 4790k... i was specting to see some difference while gaming but... no, still the same fps... exactly the same...

Any help?

My rig:

Z97X-GAMING 3 MOTHERBOARD

MSI GTX 970 4GB

I7 4790K 4.0Ghz

16gb hyperx savage ram.

 

Please help...

 

Thanks!

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its mostly the gpu that makes the difference....

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Just now, SeanAngelo said:

its mostly the gpu that makes the difference....

But still... it should be a smal difference...? i will upgrade to a 1070 soon ... but still

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An I7 will only make a difference in multi-threaded workloads such as video editing 

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1 minute ago, TAHIRMIA said:

An I7 will only make a difference in multi-threaded workloads such as video editing 

So it is suposed to do 0 difference? It's ok anyway because i was going to get the 1070 so..

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Well, at least you have a much better all around CPU, that can be overclocked and also sounds cooler when you say it :p.

 

1070 here it goes...

 

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Just gave you one ^^, enjoy and happy almost new year.

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5 minutes ago, Ricky_SHTK said:

So it is suposed to do 0 difference? It's ok anyway because i was going to get the 1070 so..

Very little in gaming but there is some. You'll get more performance if you OC

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6 minutes ago, Ricky_SHTK said:

So it is suposed to do 0 difference? It's ok anyway because i was going to get the 1070 so..

The only time it would make a difference is if the CPU was underpowered compared to the video card. Since you went from a modern i5 to an i7, it's not really going to make a difference in most games. Something like Arma 3 or Cities skylines would run better, but something like Far Cry or GTAV probably wouldn't run too differently. 

You have a lot more headroom to run programs in the background though. Streaming or recording footage will effect your gameplay much less since you now have 8 threads.

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There might be a slight increase in some games, but others, not so much. Some games are more dependant on the CPU than others. The games you play might simply not require more CPU processing power. Probably something you should have investigated before upgrading.

 

13 minutes ago, TAHIRMIA said:

An I7 will only make a difference in multi-threaded workloads such as video editing 

Not true, there are games that benefit from it.

2 minutes ago, Brink2Three said:

The only time it would make a difference is if the CPU was underpowered compared to the video card. Since you went from a modern i5 to an i7, it's not really going to make a difference in most games. Something like Arma 3 or Cities skylines would run better, but something like Far Cry or GTAV probably wouldn't run too differently. 

You have a lot more headroom to run programs in the background though. Streaming or recording footage will effect your gameplay much less since you now have 8 threads.

DX12 has shown significant improvements when using an i7 over an i5. So there is that.

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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Not true, there are games that benefit from it.

 

Not many

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Well you should have upgraded the gpu first since your i5 was pretty much enough for gaming.

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1 minute ago, TAHIRMIA said:

Not many

And yet, some do, thus making your statement false.

DX12 also gives a significant boost to more threads.

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12 minutes ago, TAHIRMIA said:

Very little in gaming but there is some. You'll get more performance if you OC

Any good tutorial of how to OC it? I never OC a cpu... is there any risk?

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1 minute ago, Ricky_SHTK said:

Any good tutorial of how to OC it? I never OC a cpu... is there any risk?

 

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7 minutes ago, dizmo said:

DX12 has shown significant improvements when using an i7 over an i5. So there is that.

And there are what, 16 games that support DX12? And some games are even worse in DX12 then DX11. 

While Battlefield 1 is one of the games that support DX12 ( the game that OP has photos from), I doubt he was using DX12 in game. 

8 minutes ago, dizmo said:

And yet, some do, thus making your statement false.

DX12 also gives a significant boost to more threads.

Not many, some do. Both are completely valid since neither is a logical fallacy. 

And yes DX12 is better at multithreaded workloads, but until there are more games that support DX12 and actually implement it well, I won't tell people to build systems based in DX12 benchmarks. DX11 is still the standard for gaming. 

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33 minutes ago, Ricky_SHTK said:

But still... it should be a smal difference...? i will upgrade to a 1070 soon ... but still

No, it shouldn't. 90% of games are still heavily reliant on two cores.

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32 minutes ago, dizmo said:

And yet, some do, thus making your statement false.

DX12 also gives a significant boost to more threads.

 

But majority do not

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The i7 Will only help when the game is CPU heavy.

 

For example: If you play games that use 6Gb of ram and you have 8Gb. You can upgrade to 32Gb and it Will change nothing, but if you play a game that uses 10Gb, upgrading from 6gb to 32Gb Will indeed help. The same logic is aplicable to the CPU.

Ultra is stupid. ALWAYS.

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1 hour ago, Ricky_SHTK said:

But still... it should be a smal difference...? i will upgrade to a 1070 soon ... but still

Your 4460 was fine. The 4790k isn't much of an upgrade in terms of gaming. 

Games are mostly gpu-bound and upgrading the graphics card would've made the biggest difference.

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3 hours ago, Ricky_SHTK said:

But still... it should be a smal difference...? i will upgrade to a 1070 soon ... but still

no, only games that support hyperthreading. you get the most fps difference upgrading gpu.

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i5-4460 and GTX 970 was a nice balanced combo...when you'll upgrade to a 1070 and start pushing higher framerates if you have a 120 or 144hz monitor you'll see the core i7 will keep up much better in demanding games.

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