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What is your pick for best antivirus program 2016?

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In situations where your sitting with a machine; riddled with viruses; malware; adware and spyware - What would you do?
Its been a year and judging from your experience - Which program would you give the best antivirus award to?

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Well the best way is to get all the important data off and nuke windows. Beyond that Malwarebytes then set them up with an adblocker.

 

 

 

 

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Sophos Home is absolutely free and works like a charm. I pair this with GlassWire, which allows me to see exactly what is happening on my computer, and see where my computer is connecting to outside my home (and inside) as well as which applications have changed versions. The solution isn't automatic, with the exception of Sophos... but I don't need obstacles in my way trying to use the internet. I'd rather have Sophos give me a warning, and let me proceed to the questionable website, than block it and make me manually whitelist it.

 

This isn't the solution for everyone, but it sure does give you superior control. 

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Remix

 

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Take in consideration that most (NOT ALL) antiviruses run in the background. Therefore, reducing computer performance by raising the CPU usage. Malwarebytes seems okay but I just use windows defender because i'm too lazy to actually download and setup an antivirus.

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I use Kaspersky Premium for 2 Years now. My System stays clean and it use very little ressources.

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To my surprise i m using windows defender and my laptop is still working without any issues even though i download weird contents :D only thing that defender need is to be kept updated.

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ESET Nod32 Antivirus.

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Common sense is probably the best one I have used. It has zero performance hit on the system and isn't annoying. I have been using it for 17 years and I have yet to get a virus. 

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5 hours ago, Flashie said:

In situations where your sitting with a machine; riddled with viruses; malware; adware and spyware - What would you do?

Format drive

Reinstall Windows

 

 

3 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

Common sense is probably the best one I have used. It has zero performance hit on the system and isn't annoying. I have been using it for 17 years and I have yet to get a virus. 

The problem with only running Common Sense 2017 - Pro edition, is that "not having an active AV" and "common sense" do not belong in the same sentence.

With zero day exploits, drive-by downloads, other users on the same network and all the other attack surfaces available it is a really bad idea to not have an anti-virus at all.

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I like the Panda free antivirus. It s light and I've never had any problems with it. 

ZamoRIG 2.0:

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 @ 3.9GHz

Cooling: DeepCool Captain 240 RGB + 2x Corsair ML120 fans

Graphics Card: Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming x2 

Motherboard: Asrock X370 Gaming K4 

RAM: 2x8GB DDR4 G Skill Ripjaws V Grey @ 2800MHz 

SSDs: 2xPatriot Ignite M.2 240GB

HDD: WD Black 1TB + WD Green 2TB

 PSU: Corsair RM750

Case: Corsair Carbide 400C

ZamoRIG “Portable”:

Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 @ 4GHz

Cooling: Corsair H80i 

Graphics Card: Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming 

Motherboard: Gigabyte AB350N Gaming WiFi

RAM: 1x16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance  @ 2400MHz 

SSD: Patriot Ignite M.2 240GB 

HDD: 2TB 2.5” Seagate HDD 

PSU: Corsair TX650M 

Case: Siverstone SG13

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3 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Format drive

Reinstall Windows

 

 

The problem with only running Common Sense 2017 - Pro edition, is that "not having an active AV" and "common sense" do not belong in the same sentence.

With zero day exploits, drive-by downloads, other users on the same network and all the other attack surfaces available it is a really bad idea to not have an anti-virus at all.

I have yet to get a virus and as I kid I went on some really shady flash games websites

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6 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

I have yet to get a virus and as I kid I went on some really shady flash games websites

Yet to get a virus.... That you are aware of. 

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13 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

Common sense is probably the best one I have used. It has zero performance hit on the system and isn't annoying. I have been using it for 17 years and I have yet to get a virus. 

I have done this in the past, as a hybrid model. I only manually run AV when I feel like it. Never picked up anything. Nowadays I leave the free Windows one running and I had exactly one false positive ever. Commercial AV tend to shout too much about insignificant stuff to try and justify their value.

 

If you do a ROI calculation, commercial AV probably costs a savvy user more than not using one. They only earn their keep on not so savvy users.

9 hours ago, LAwLz said:

With zero day exploits, drive-by downloads, other users on the same network and all the other attack surfaces available it is a really bad idea to not have an anti-virus at all.

AV are generally only effective against known threats, and are of limited value for unknown ones. 

 

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42 minutes ago, porina said:

If you do a ROI calculation, commercial AV probably costs a savvy user more than not using one. They only earn their keep on not so savvy users.

The problem is that a lot of "savvy" users are actually only slightly above average if even that (just look at this forum for tons of great examples). The Lake Wobegon effect is a very real thing.

For example, I'd say no tech-savvy person would run without an anti-virus (on Windows at least). The ~50MB of RAM and a few clock cycles every once in a while is definitely worth it if you got even a fairly modern computer.

 

 

43 minutes ago, porina said:

AV are generally only effective against known threats, and are of limited value for unknown ones. 

That's a huge generalization and simplification. It is not uncommon that zero day exploits are used to deliver already known payloads. For example the recent Firefox vulnerability was used to deliver a modified version of malware that the NSA used several years ago. An anti-virus which uses heuristic detection would have picked up that, and the same goes for other mutations (which is very common).

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20 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

For example, I'd say no tech-savvy person would run without an anti-virus (on Windows at least). The ~50MB of RAM and a few clock cycles every once in a while is definitely worth it if you got even a fairly modern computer.

It depends on the AV, but I'm not just looking at the impact on performance, but also distractions caused by updates and unnecessary user notifications.

 

Let's look at it practically. If you do run an AV, how many genuinely useful detections/preventions have you actually had? I'm willing to bet for knowledgeable users it will be incredibly low or zero. I can say I've wasted more time dealing with false positives alone in the last 20 years than all total virus/malware related actions, and that's without counting loss productivity from performance impact. That's why right now, the free MS one seems low enough in intrusiveness I leave it alone on my main system. When I have used commercial ones they seem to do a lot worse by trying to do more. It is like preventing a headache by cutting off your head.

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4 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Yet to get a virus.... That you are aware of. 

It is a pretty bad virus then as it didn't do anything or steal any info

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8 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

It is a pretty bad virus then as it didn't do anything or steal any info

Could be used to send spam emails, used for DDOS attacks. Maybe it's a delayed ransomware (the new hotness in malware) that hasn't gone off yet, or maybe it has been stealing your personal info and you just haven't noticed anything yet. Maybe it is replacing the regular ads that should be displayed with other ads (so that the creator gets ad revenue instead of the website owner). There are a ton of ways that you can be infected and do harm, without you noticing.

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12 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Could be used to send spam emails, used for DDOS attacks. Maybe it's a delayed ransomware (the new hotness in malware) that hasn't gone off yet, or maybe it has been stealing your personal info and you just haven't noticed anything yet. Maybe it is replacing the regular ads that should be displayed with other ads (so that the creator gets ad revenue instead of the website owner). There are a ton of ways that you can be infected and do harm, without you noticing.

I don't think so. Usually AV are more of a virus shoving BUY ME or randomly scanning slowly everything down.

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