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HELP I LAG IN GAMES ON DECENT SETUP

Lil_Vinnie

Hi there, as from the title i am lagging in games i shouldn't be, i know this as a fact because my best mate has the same hardware as me apart from the RAM Speed and i have a better GPU (GTX 1060 3GB Windforce OC) and a Black edition drive with a SSD, Specs Listed below

 

CPU - FX-6300

MB - GA-970-Gaming

RAM - G.Skill 2x4GB DDR3 1866MHz

GPU - Gigabyte GTX 1060 3GB Windforce OC

HDD - WD 1TB Black Edition Drive

SSD - Samsung 850 Evo 250GB 

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Now the games im lagging on are Minecraft, i dont get a stable 60 FPS, even on lowest, im having major lag spikes on Overwatch, and all sorts of other games, i would like to know what part is messing up, if its hardware, cables etc etc. please help and thankyou if you need more info please ask.

 

Thanks Vincent

 

P.S I build the PC with a PC Expert, he watched me as i did somethings as he did the major things)

 

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Check the CPU and cpu load in MSi after burner. I don't know AMD but it could be a bottleneck

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34 minutes ago, That-Something_ said:

Check the CPU and cpu load in MSi after burner. I don't know AMD but it could be a bottleneck

Ok will do, thanks

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9 hours ago, Lil_Vinnie said:

Ok will do, thanks

Nope, Doesnt Seem Like it. thanks anyway though 

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11 hours ago, Lil_Vinnie said:

Hi there, as from the title i am lagging in games i shouldn't be, i know this as a fact because my best mate has the same hardware as me apart from the RAM Speed and i have a better GPU (GTX 1060 3GB Windforce OC) and a Black edition drive with a SSD, Specs Listed below

 

CPU - FX-6300

MB - GA-970-Gaming

RAM - G.Skill 2x4GB DDR3 1866MHz

GPU - Gigabyte GTX 1060 3GB Windforce OC

HDD - WD 1TB Black Edition Drive

SSD - Samsung 850 Evo 250GB 

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Now the games im lagging on are Minecraft, i dont get a stable 60 FPS, even on lowest, im having major lag spikes on Overwatch, and all sorts of other games, i would like to know what part is messing up, if its hardware, cables etc etc. please help and thankyou if you need more info please ask.

 

Thanks Vincent

 

P.S I build the PC with a PC Expert, he watched me as i did somethings as he did the major things)

 

Lag, or frame rates? Lag usually refers to internet/network issues.

 Your 1060 should stomp Overwatch - my 970 does on epic settings. Minecraft might be CPU limited, tho I'm not sure on that.. 

The AMD 970 chipset is limited to pcie gen 2  but that shouldn't really be an issue outside of pro benchmarking....

Maybe use Afterburner or Hwinfo & see if the game is trying to use more than the 3gb frame buffer on the GPU?

Otherwise maybe clear out all the drivers & reinstall. 

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Both of those are CPU intensive games and that's not a good CPU. There's your problem.

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If his friend has the same PC and isn't having issues, then something else is causing the problem. First of all, are those new harddrives and is your OS a fresh install or are you using parts from a previous build with a OS that was already there? Second double check using some monitoring programs that your CPU is not overheating/throttling and is running at the full stock speeds when in games. Finally did you do any kind of overclocking? even if the PC doesn't crash, an unstable overclock can cause these issues. Also is there an auto OC feature in your BIOS and is that turned on?

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It's your CPU. Horrible GPU and is most likely bottlenecking the GPU.

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18 hours ago, Lil_Vinnie said:

Hi there, as from the title i am lagging in games i shouldn't be, i know this as a fact because my best mate has the same hardware as me apart from the RAM Speed and i have a better GPU (GTX 1060 3GB Windforce OC) and a Black edition drive with a SSD, Specs Listed below

 

CPU - FX-6300

MB - GA-970-Gaming

RAM - G.Skill 2x4GB DDR3 1866MHz

GPU - Gigabyte GTX 1060 3GB Windforce OC

HDD - WD 1TB Black Edition Drive

SSD - Samsung 850 Evo 250GB 

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Now the games im lagging on are Minecraft, i dont get a stable 60 FPS, even on lowest, im having major lag spikes on Overwatch, and all sorts of other games, i would like to know what part is messing up, if its hardware, cables etc etc. please help and thankyou if you need more info please ask.

 

Thanks Vincent

 

P.S I build the PC with a PC Expert, he watched me as i did somethings as he did the major things)

 

Probably the CPU is holding back the GPU.

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18 minutes ago, Shura said:

If his friend has the same PC and isn't having issues, then something else is causing the problem. First of all, are those new harddrives and is your OS a fresh install or are you using parts from a previous build with a OS that was already there? Second double check using some monitoring programs that your CPU is not overheating/throttling and is running at the full stock speeds when in games. Finally did you do any kind of overclocking? even if the PC doesn't crash, an unstable overclock can cause these issues. Also is there an auto OC feature in your BIOS and is that turned on?

Everything is brand new

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19 minutes ago, Shura said:

If his friend has the same PC and isn't having issues, then something else is causing the problem. First of all, are those new harddrives and is your OS a fresh install or are you using parts from a previous build with a OS that was already there? Second double check using some monitoring programs that your CPU is not overheating/throttling and is running at the full stock speeds when in games. Finally did you do any kind of overclocking? even if the PC doesn't crash, an unstable overclock can cause these issues. Also is there an auto OC feature in your BIOS and is that turned on?

haven't overclocked and theirs no OC in the BIOS. 

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all the drivers are up to date? and what version of windows are you using? there was an issue with windows 7 not properly utilizing FX series cpus and Microsoft released 2 hot-patch to fix the issue. If you are on windows 7, try to find those patches on google. Also try some benchmarks and make sure your CPU is running at full speed at least; not just if it's running at 100% or not but if its running at the right speeds.

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Just now, Shura said:

all the drivers are up to date? and what version of windows are you using? there was an issue with windows 7 not properly utilizing FX series cpus and Microsoft released 2 hot-patch to fix the issue. If you are on windows 7, try to find those patches on google. Also try some benchmarks and make sure your CPU is running at full speed at least; not just if it's running at 100% or not but if its running at the right speeds.

Using Windows 10, could you please point me in the direction of a good free benchmark tester?

And thankyou for the help

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6 hours ago, Kc7vwc said:

Lag, or frame rates? Lag usually refers to internet/network issues.

 Your 1060 should stomp Overwatch - my 970 does on epic settings. Minecraft might be CPU limited, tho I'm not sure on that.. 

The AMD 970 chipset is limited to pcie gen 2  but that shouldn't really be an issue outside of pro benchmarking....

Maybe use Afterburner or Hwinfo & see if the game is trying to use more than the 3gb frame buffer on the GPU?

Otherwise maybe clear out all the drivers & reinstall. 

I have the Same CPU as my friend..and he handles minecraft 60FPS. and i allready did a fresh install

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More than likely something with the O.S. If you're running windows 10 change power option to high performance then disable p2p updates (google to figure out how) might as well disable all the other dumb crap they use your bandwidth for as well. Honestly, both of those games should be running better than that on an fx6300.

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2 minutes ago, Prolly_dyin said:

More than likely something with the O.S. If you're running windows 10 change power option to high performance then disable p2p updates (google to figure out how) might as well disable all the other dumb crap they use your bandwidth for as well. Honestly, both of those games should be running better than that on an fx6300.

Ok ill try that now.

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6 minutes ago, Prolly_dyin said:

More than likely something with the O.S. If you're running windows 10 change power option to high performance then disable p2p updates (google to figure out how) might as well disable all the other dumb crap they use your bandwidth for as well. Honestly, both of those games should be running better than that on an fx6300.

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You could try it. That's a bios setting that basically forces your cpu to run boosted all the time. give it a shot. If it doesn't do anything turn it back off. It's a power saving feature.

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1 minute ago, Prolly_dyin said:

You could try it. That's a bios setting that basically forces your cpu to run boosted all the time. give it a shot. If it doesn't do anything turn it back off. It's a power saving feature.

Another idea, could this be a ram problem, my motherboard doesnt want to run the ram full speed, and only runs it at 1600 instead of 1866, could that be a problem?

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Probably not. You should be good at 1600mhz. You should download and run something like HWMonitor in the background it will let you see max approx. temps, cpu usage ect.

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8 minutes ago, Prolly_dyin said:

You could try it. That's a bios setting that basically forces your cpu to run boosted all the time. give it a shot. If it doesn't do anything turn it back off. It's a power saving feature.

 

3 minutes ago, Prolly_dyin said:

Probably not. You should be good at 1600mhz. You should download and run something like HWMonitor in the background it will let you see max approx. temps, cpu usage ect.

Trying that now

 

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First question, are you on a minecraft server; if so both games would require an internet connection. Next question, what is your internet connection speed like and are you connected via WIFI or Ethernet? Ethernet allows for faster connection speeds and lower latencies compared to WIFI.

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Just now, Qwweb said:

First question, are you on a minecraft server; if so both games would require an internet connection. Next question, what is your internet connection speed like and are you connected via WIFI or Ethernet? Ethernet allows for faster connection speeds and lower latencies compared to WIFI.

its on single player, and ive tried Wifi and Ethernet, doesnt make a diffirence, and its FPS lag

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Run it in the background. Make sure your cpu temps aren't causing any throttling or anything and that your cpu is running at least base clock speeds.

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Try Geekbench or Cinebench, have CPU-Z open and HWMonitor when you do the test, make sure the clockspeed goes to the max speed on CPU-Z and HWMonitor. Make sure the windows 10 drivers are installed for the montherboard. 1600mhz vs 1866mhz won't cause the type of issues you are experiencing.

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