Where is the 960 Pro??

[johnt]

Man I've been eyeing this SSD for a couple weeks now. I found it available this morning at like 4am on bestbuy.com, but I decided to sleep and purchase it when I woke up. I've been trying to find it for purchase nearly all day and the websites are being weird. Some claim "sold out" and other says "not available"

 

I'm trying Fry's, BestBuy, Amazon, Newegg

 

Did Samsung push back the release date again?

[NicekillBG]

i think you are unlucky or it was put up too early 

[Enderman]

Why do you want to spend that much money on something you don't need?

[SeanAngelo]

4 minutes ago, JohnT said:

Man I've been eyeing this SSD for a couple weeks now. I found it available this morning at like 4am on bestbuy.com, but I decided to sleep and purchase it when I woke up. I've been trying to find it for purchase nearly all day and the websites are being weird. Some claim "sold out" and other says "not available"

 

I'm trying Fry's, BestBuy, Amazon, Newegg

 

Did Samsung push back the release date again?

may I ask why you need the 960 Pro?

[johnt]

6 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Why do you want to spend that much money on something you don't need?

Great question. I was messing around with my Intel 730 (when changing cases) and I accidentally got a little rough with it. The power connector got the short end of the stick. It got twisted up and broke near the 3.3v leads (Pins 1 and 2). Somehow the ****ing thing is still working! I was pretty ballsy to even try it after the pins broke, but I literally had nothing to lose (since it has most of my main data). I figured if it can't get power, then it can't really do anything. But I was shocked when I saw it pop up in BIOS.

 

Now I'm a bit nervous about using it for much longer. I seriously feel like it's a ticking time bomb. Honestly I don't even know if I should be worried. It's also a great drive and I would very much like to replace it with another 730. Unfortunately they are like $250+ bucks depending on the site for the 480 GB model.

 

The 960 Pro 512GB isn't much more (especially when considering it comes with a code for Watch Dogs 2)

[Enderman]

5 minutes ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

 

Why get a car? Sure you CAN walk everywhere but it's so much faster (I understand the comparison is more of a Lexus to a Ferrari but still)

The difference is a car is faster than walking.

Buying an NVME ssd does not make your PC faster.

 

5 minutes ago, JohnT said:

Great question. I was messing around with my Intel 730 (when changing cases) and I accidentally got a little rough with it. The power connector got the short end of the stick. It got twisted up and broke near the 3.3v leads (Pins 1 and 2). Somehow the ****ing thing is still working! I was pretty ballsy to even try it after the pins broke, but I literally had nothing to lose (since it has most of my main data). I figured if it can't get power, then it can't really do anything. But I was shocked when I saw it pop up in BIOS.

 

Now I'm a bit nervous about using it for much longer. I seriously feel like it's a ticking time bomb. Honestly I don't even know if I should be worried. It's also a great drive and I would very much like to replace it with another 730. Unfortunately they are like $250+ bucks depending on the site for the 480 GB model.

 

The 960 Pro 512GB isn't much more (especially when considering it comes with a code for Watch Dogs 2)

Compared to a regular sata SSD it is twice the price.

You can spend the same amount of money on a sata SSD that is 2x the size, doesn't overheat, and performs the same.

Unless you are a video editor or data analyst or something you will notice 0 difference between a sata SSD and an NVME ssd.

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

makes transferring massive files faster though (like if you're a hardcore video editor)

If you read the rest of my post you would see I already said that.

I highly doubt his job is a video editor or data analyst or graphic designer or anything like that.

His PC specs just scream "gamer"

And NVME does absolutely 0 for gaming or regular PC usage.

[Enderman]

Just now, wrathoftheturkey said:

Well you could go from a 9 second boot to a 6 second boot (although you'd be approaching the point where your motherboard load screen started being the bottleneck). But you're right, it's not very practical to go for an NVME drive over a SATA drive considering the price difference.

No it also does not speed up boot, you can go look at benchmarks.

Sometimes it even takes longer because PCIe initializes after sata.

[Enderman]

5 minutes ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

really?

shit

can't find any reliable ones that test boot times, could you hook me up?

 

 

Watch out biased graph:

 

As you can see they are all within margin of error.

Storage speed is not the bottleneck of boot times.

[johnt]

26 minutes ago, Enderman said:

If you read the rest of my post you would see I already said that.

I highly doubt his job is a video editor or data analyst or graphic designer or anything like that.

His PC specs just scream "gamer"

And NVME does absolutely 0 for gaming or regular PC usage.

Screams gamer? Okay maybe just a little bit. I would say it does so but it's subtle... ha

 

I also edit a lot of pictures. My post process work flow includes several batch processes on PSD files that are around 150 megs at present because I use a 12 MP DSLR, but I suspect the file size will go up next year when I switch to 36 MP or more.

 

I have a small desire to get into video, but my patience is limiting. And they would be mostly family stuff.

[RxL]

you are looking at early december ive got my 2x 960 evo's coming december 2nd

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, JohnT said:

Screams gamer? Okay maybe just a little bit. I would say it does so but it's subtle... ha

 

I also edit a lot of pictures. My post process work flow includes several batch processes on PSD files that are around 150 megs at present because I use a 12 MP DSLR, but I suspect the file size will go up next year when I switch to 36 MP or more.

 

I have a small desire to get into video, but my patience is limiting. And they would be mostly family stuff.

Ok, so then you should value space more than absurd speeds...

Get a larger SSD instead of a faster one.

500MBps is definitely enough.

[johnt]

3 minutes ago, RxL said:

you are looking at early december ive got my 2x 960 evo's coming december 2nd

What website did you order them from? I've gotten a middle finger so far on all Evo's

[RxL]

4 minutes ago, JohnT said:

What website did you order them from? I've gotten a middle finger so far on all Evo's

20 day lead time now but here you go not sure if they mail to the us

 

http://www.span.com/category/M-2-SSD-Samsung~1483

[johnt]

4 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Ok, so then you should value space more than absurd speeds...

Get a larger SSD instead of a faster one.

500MBps is definitely enough.

I totally hear what you're saying. My thinking is the price of admission for a 480+ GB from Intel or Samsung is getting close to the price of the 960 Pro. The 730 is only $70 shy and the 850 Pro is about $100. 

 

If if I wanted to upgrade to the 960 Pro next year, then I would have to shell out another $220 bucks plus the difference to get the 960. Where as now I would only have to come up with another $100. I'd also be stuck with another SSD and I'd be questioned why I need another hard drive when I just bought one last year. 

[johnt]

4 minutes ago, RxL said:

20 day lead time now but here you go not sure if they mail to the us

 

http://www.span.com/category/M-2-SSD-Samsung~1483

Shoot you have a 950 now. Why are you upping to the 960?? What's your experience been with the 950 pro... is it worth it?

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, JohnT said:

I totally hear what you're saying. My thinking is the price of admission for a 480+ GB from Intel or Samsung is getting close to the price of the 960 Pro. The 730 is only $70 shy and the 850 Pro is about $100. 

 

If if I wanted to upgrade to the 960 Pro next year, then I would have to shell out another $220 bucks plus the difference to get the 960. Where as now I would only have to come up with another $100. I'd also be stuck with another SSD and I'd be questioned why I need another hard drive when I just bought one last year. 

If a 960 pro is $400 for a 500GB size, then you can get a 1TB 850 evo for that price instead and you get twice the size.

Much better use of money.

[RxL]

Just now, JohnT said:

Shoot you have a 950 now. Why are you upping to the 960?? What's your experience been with the 950 pro 

yea ive got the 950 now and never looked back at spending money on it and im getting 2 960s for a work computer (media and so on) 

[johnt]

14 hours ago, Enderman said:

If a 960 pro is $400 for a 500GB size, then you can get a 1TB 850 evo for that price instead and you get twice the size.

Much better use of money.

I know. I hear you.... 

 

14 hours ago, RxL said:

yea ive got the 950 now and never looked back at spending money on it and im getting 2 960s for a work computer (media and so on) 

Congrats on being able to secure two of them! At this point my chances are highly increased if I travel to China and wait outside the plant to snag one off the line.

[RxL]

59 minutes ago, JohnT said:

I know. I hear you.... 

 

Congrats on being able to secure two of them! At this point my chances are highly increased if I travel to China and wait outside the plant to snag one off the line.

im glad i was able to secure two just a shame the lead time on them is 15 days or 20 now i know i get my right at the beginning of decemeber just a waiting game and i have zero patience

[johnt]

2 hours ago, RxL said:

im glad i was able to secure two just a shame the lead time on them is 15 days or 20 now i know i get my right at the beginning of decemeber just a waiting game and i have zero patience

Yup I hear you. The only website I was able to find it was Samsung.com directly. They claimed it would be "shipped" by Monday... so yeeeeeeeeeah I hope so. I'm also impatient. Then another 1 to 3 days after they ship it. Sheesh.

 

 

[johnt]

I've been giving the "more space" idea a lot of thought. I have all my photos on cloud storage. My documents are on a separate cloud storage. Music is now streaming always. A few FLAC records but ehhhhhh nothing I can't re-download. Games are easy enough to download when I need them. I hardly store anything significant on my PC anymore. Even my bookmarks and extensions are synced with Chrome. I always seem to have 200 GB free on my current 480 GB drive. Maybe sometimes 100 GB free when I load up games from my backlog that I'm probably never going to play.

 

More space is almost as unnecessary as the speed the 960 Pro provides  First world problems are great, aren't they? Can you imagine what the Chinese might think if they ever read this?

[RxL]

13 minutes ago, JohnT said:

Yup I hear you. The only website I was able to find it was Samsung.com directly. They claimed it would be "shipped" by Monday... so yeeeeeeeeeah I hope so. I'm also impatient. Then another 1 to 3 days after they ship it. Sheesh.

 

 

atleast if you order of if have ordered you get it well before me  still atleast two weeks here what am i to do ^^

[johnt]

4 hours ago, RxL said:

atleast if you order of if have ordered you get it well before me  still atleast two weeks here what am i to do ^^

That's because you went with the Evo. Those are released another 2-3 week later

[RxL]

Just now, JohnT said:

That's because you went with the Evo. Those are released another 2-3 week later

not at all its because they are all on pre order everywhere ive seen nothing to do with release dates