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Is Skylake worth the extra £40

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a haswell PC would cost me £545 and a skylake one would cost me £585. is it really worth it? i plan on selling shitarse (current PC) for around £150 and this would take my budget up to £550. should i wait for the magic money man to put £40 in to my possession (could take some time) or just get haswell

 

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Performance wise, I'd just go with the Haswell because there's barely any difference in performance between Haswell and Skylake. However personally I'd save for the Skylake just for bragging points :P

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4 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Yes. DDR4.

i'd use my existing 16GB of DDR3

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3 minutes ago, Oberon.Smite said:

Performance wise, I'd just go with the Haswell because there's barely any difference in performance between Haswell and Skylake. However personally I'd save for the Skylake just for bragging points :P

dont really care about bragging rights lol and windows 7 is guaranteed to work on haswell, no bullshit

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1 minute ago, imPixelTV said:

i'd use my existing 16GB of DDR3

Well unless it is ddr3L, it isn't supported by skylake, it may work on some ddr3L boards, but I wouldn't recommend it.

 

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2 minutes ago, imPixelTV said:

i'd use my existing 16GB of DDR3

Skylake doesn't support DDR3. Only DDR3L.

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2 minutes ago, imPixelTV said:

i'd use my existing 16GB of DDR3

Then this is a moot point. Skylake doesn't use standard DDR3.

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Just now, rphawks said:

Skylake doesn't support DDR3. Only DDR3L.

 

Just now, SLAYR said:

Well unless it is ddr3L, it isn't supported by skylake, it may work on some ddr3L boards, but I wouldn't recommend it.

yup, 16 gb of crucial ddr3l goodness

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1 minute ago, imPixelTV said:

dont really care about bragging rights lol and windows 7 is guaranteed to work on haswell, no bullshit

Windows 7 will work on skylake, and so will 8, vista and xp if you want. Kabylake is supposed to windows 10 only though.

 

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13 minutes ago, imPixelTV said:

hey guys

 

a haswell PC would cost me £545 and a skylake one would cost me £585. is it really worth it? i plan on selling shitarse (current PC) for around £150 and this would take my budget up to £550. should i wait for the magic money man to put £40 in to my possession (could take some time) or just get haswell

 

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I'd go Skylake just for upgradibility. Also, what CPUs are you comparing?

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Just now, SLAYR said:

Windows 7 will work on skylake, and so will 8, vista and xp if you want. Kabylake is supposed to windows 10 only though.

saw that skylake was going to stop supporting it. i hate windows 10 so i guess i will just have to go AMD unless microshit release another good windows version

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6 minutes ago, imPixelTV said:

dont really care about bragging rights lol and windows 7 is guaranteed to work on haswell, no bullshit

Microsoft reversed its previous decision to not support Skylake on Windows 7, and now Windows 7 officially gets support for Skylake until 2020.

 

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-extends-again-support-for-windows-7-8-1-skylake-based-devices/

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1 minute ago, rphawks said:

I'd go Skylake just for upgradibility. Also, what CPUs are you comparing?

6500 (non K) and 4460

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I'd just go with Haswell. I don't think you'll see any real difference between the two especially since you're at the bottom end of their SKU's.

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Just now, dizmo said:

I'd just go with Haswell. I don't think you'll see any real difference between the two especially since you're at the bottom end of their SKU's.

how about upgradibility? 

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Just now, Apollo Refugio said:

how about upgradibility? 

Chances are by the time he'd need something more powerful than a 4790 he'd be upgrading the entire platform again anyway.

His upgrade to a 4790 would be cheaper than anything on 1151.

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Just now, dizmo said:

Chances are by the time he'd need something more powerful than a 4790 he'd be upgrading the entire platform again anyway.

His upgrade to a 4790 would be cheaper than anything on 1151.

oh i didn't know he was getting a 4790. seems gucci

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2 minutes ago, Apollo Refugio said:

oh i didn't know he was getting a 4790. seems gucci

im not lol id be getting a 4460

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Just now, imPixelTV said:

im not lol id be getting a 4460

oh, then yes, get skylake. they say kabylake will work on some z170 boards.

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5 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I'd just go with Haswell. I don't think you'll see any real difference between the two especially since you're at the bottom end of their SKU's.

yeah i probably will. much cheaper

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Just now, Apollo Refugio said:

oh, then yes, get skylake. they say kabylake will work on some z170 boards.

i think ill get haswell. winodws 7 and cheaper

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Just now, imPixelTV said:

i think ill get haswell. winodws 7 and cheaper

I wouldn't but... *shrug*

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1 minute ago, rphawks said:

I wouldn't but... *shrug*

id be able to get haswell now instead of January

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