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hi I kinda stuck iv got a amd a8-7600 and I want to upgrade and I also whant to get a motherboard as

my raid controller on the board (Gigabyte F2A78M-HD2 ) stoped working

 

I was thinking of getting a AMD Kaveri A10-7850K 3.7Ghz, ASUS A88XM-PLUS priced at £159.99 but I no I can't upgrade cpu on that socket for better cpu latter down the line but I do like the idea of 2dims and sli  or should I get a INTEL Core i5 4430 3.0Ghz, ASUS H81M-PLUS CPU & Motherboard Bund at £209.99 but it probably take me a year to get a new cpu if I get the i5 and only two dims and no sli

 

tthanks in advanced 

 

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sorry about the boxes couldn't delete them on my phone

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1 processor, 3 cores, 6 threads overclocked to 4.4 GHz
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Go with Intel, all the way!

If you buy new, go with Skylake or Kabylake!

I see no reason for you to buy the H mobo in LGA 1150.

 

You should buy refurbished, I bought mine from BesyBuy for $400cdn, which is $300usd. HP brand with i5-4570, then I upgraded the ram to 12GB keeping the stock 4gb installed. When you do it that way, no need to spend $ on O/S, which is ike $100cdn/$75usd.

 

But if you want to OC then buy Z board and K chip.

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If you're planning on getting a brand new CPU and motherboard, you may as well get whatever fulfills your needs at the best that you can afford. If that's Intel, get Intel. If it's AMD, then go AMD.

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If at any point your going to be using a dedicated gpu get intel.

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thank you I for got to say my budget is around £200gbp

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1 processor, 3 cores, 6 threads overclocked to 4.4 GHz
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4 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

Go with Intel, all the way!

Go with Skylake or Kabylake!

 

You should buy refurbished, I bought mine from BesyBuy for $400cdn, which is $300usd. HP brand with i5-4570, then I upgraded the ram to 12GB keeping the stock 4gb installed.

 

But if you want to OC then buy Z board and K chip.

Why would you buy a prebuilt

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Used to be Buizel10. Forgot email password and LTT password. Check that account for my info.

 

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I'm using nvidea gtx 750 ti with a flashed bios and overclocked

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1 processor, 3 cores, 6 threads overclocked to 4.4 GHz
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Processor Codename Vishera
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2 minutes ago, ninpauline said:

thank you I for got to say my budget is around £200gbp

AMD's budget hardware it is then.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700x / GPU: Asus Radeon RX 6750XT OC 12GB / RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3200
MOBO: MSI B450m Gaming Plus / NVME: Corsair MP510 240GB / Case: TT Core v21 / PSU: Seasonic 750W / OS: Win 10 Pro

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it's not a pre build its an ofer for cpu and motherboard 

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1 processor, 3 cores, 6 threads overclocked to 4.4 GHz
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Processor Codename Vishera
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L1 Instruction Cache 16 KB x 3
L1 Data Cache 64 KB x 6
L2 Cache 2048 KB x 3
L3 Cache 8192 KB
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4 minutes ago, RealBuizel10 said:

Why would you buy a prebuilt

I was looking for the best value around.

I priced out building my own in LGA-1151 and LGA-1150, but it ALWAYS came up more expensive.

It came down to the O/S price and a few other smaller factors. I had my own PSU, GPU, SSD and an HP case that would or would not fit.

 

But I priced it all out both ways and then some.

 

The computer I bought was on sale, I saved $75 on it at the time. They still sell the same computer online.

 

If your budget is 200GPB, thats about $330cdn which is $225usd. Then you should go with AMD, but realize there is no upgrade path. You could wait for Zen.

 

Or just buy used. I did that with my recent 2nd computer purchase. I was wanting a X58 board, and found a complete system for $200cdn/$150usd. There would be lots available used in LGA-1150 because people want the newest.

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If you want to get a REALLY good CPU then go to something like a 4690K or Xeon E3-1231 V3

If you want to get a MID RANGE CPU then get one of the new Zen CPU's from AMD (when they come out) or get a i3 6100 / i5 4670

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Wait for Zen before upgrading.

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thank you evey one for the quick response, the only problem with Zen is it might be out of my price range

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Processor AMD FX-6300 @ 3.80 GHz 
1 processor, 3 cores, 6 threads overclocked to 4.4 GHz
Processor ID AuthenticAMD Family 21 Model 2 Stepping 0
Processor Codename Vishera
Processor Package Socket AM3+ (942)
L1 Instruction Cache 16 KB x 3
L1 Data Cache 64 KB x 6
L2 Cache 2048 KB x 3
L3 Cache 8192 KB
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29 minutes ago, ninpauline said:

thank you I for got to say my budget is around £200gbp

There are a couple options here that are pretty common for around that price point.

 

You could buy an FX-8350 and a cheaper 970-series chipset motherboard and get that at around 180-200 GBP. There's little upgrade path to speak of, as AM3+ is pretty dead now, but it's not bad. You will get some CPU bottlenecks on some of today's games, but it should still perform very well even so.

 

You could buy an i3-6100 and a budget H170, B150, or H110 motherboard and get that at around 160 GBP. If you're willing to stretch your budget, get an i5-6400. The i3-6100 is just fine for many of today's games, but a quad-core i5 is simply better and won't suffer from CPU bottlenecks on some games like the i3 or FX CPUs.

 

28 minutes ago, RealBuizel10 said:

Why would you buy a prebuilt

You can get an excellent deal by buying an old cheap system that someone is getting rid of and work off of that. Some people dump cruddy prebuilts with older LGA 775 socket motherboards (basically your Intel Core 2 Duo/Quad era) for under $100, which all they need is a Core 2 Quad and a graphics card to do something great. It ultimately comes down to price to performance, though.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, ninpauline said:

thank you evey one for the quick response, the only problem with Zen is it might be out of my price range

There is nearly a 100% chance atleast 1 zen cpu will be in your price range, considering most people will spend around 300$ at absolute most for a cpu unless they want overkill.

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25 minutes ago, ninpauline said:

thank you evey one for the quick response, the only problem with Zen is it might be out of my price range

While you don't know if it's in your price range, you could always wait and see. However, you shouldn't force yourself to wait if it isn't an option.

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22 minutes ago, Kavawuvi said:

You can get an excellent deal by buying an old cheap system that someone is getting rid of and work off of that. Some people dump cruddy prebuilts with older LGA 775 socket motherboards (basically your Intel Core 2 Duo/Quad era) for under $100, which all they need is a Core 2 Quad and a graphics card to do something great. It ultimately comes down to price to performance, though.

 

 

At that point you are probably better off getting used AM3+/FM2, though -you'll hardly pay $100 for the mobo even new, although it's true the CPU will cost more than a Core 2.

 

Some cost-cutting alternative to consider is to get the FM2 board but with an Athlon X4 instead the A10, since you are using a discrete GPU anyway.

You are definitely going to get better performance from quad core intel from Sandy Bridge onwards, or even i3 from Ivy Bridge onwards, so it boils down to the best prices you can find for used stuff (plus any features you care about - but are you actually going to put a second GPU?)

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6 minutes ago, samocamo123 said:

There is nearly a 100% chance atleast 1 zen cpu will be in your price range, considering most people will spend around 300$ at absolute most for a cpu unless they want overkill.

thank you the only problem with that is I'll have to get new ram az I doubt they will be compatible with ddr3

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Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
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Processor AMD FX-6300 @ 3.80 GHz 
1 processor, 3 cores, 6 threads overclocked to 4.4 GHz
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Processor Codename Vishera
Processor Package Socket AM3+ (942)
L1 Instruction Cache 16 KB x 3
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L2 Cache 2048 KB x 3
L3 Cache 8192 KB
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1 minute ago, ninpauline said:

thank you the only problem with that is I'll have to get new ram az I doubt they will be compatible with ddr3

Yes, Zen (socket AM4) is DDR4.

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5 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

At that point you are probably better off getting used AM3+/FM2, though -you'll hardly pay $100 for the mobo even new, although it's true the CPU will cost more than a Core 2.

 

Some cost-cutting alternative to consider is to get the FM2 board but with an Athlon X4 instead the A10, since you are using a discrete GPU anyway.

You are definitely going to get better performance from quad core intel from Sandy Bridge onwards, or even i3 from Ivy Bridge onwards, so it boils down to the best prices you can find for used stuff (plus any features you care about - but are you actually going to put a second GPU?)

I was thinking about it maby in a year's time get a second gtx 750 ti

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Processor AMD FX-6300 @ 3.80 GHz 
1 processor, 3 cores, 6 threads overclocked to 4.4 GHz
Processor ID AuthenticAMD Family 21 Model 2 Stepping 0
Processor Codename Vishera
Processor Package Socket AM3+ (942)
L1 Instruction Cache 16 KB x 3
L1 Data Cache 64 KB x 6
L2 Cache 2048 KB x 3
L3 Cache 8192 KB
Motherboard MSI 970A SLI Krait Edition (MS-7693)
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Just now, SpaceGhostC2C said:

At that point you are probably better off getting used AM3+/FM2, though -you'll hardly pay $100 for the mobo even new, although it's true the CPU will cost more than a Core 2.

My point was that if you're getting a used prebuilt, you could get a better deal than if you bought the parts separate. It doesn't really matter what you get as long as it's good enough. Just make sure to do your research.

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1 minute ago, ninpauline said:

I was thinking about it maby in a year's time

I guess it all depends on the price of a 750 by then, but I'll be surprised if you are not better off with a GPU upgrade (selling yours, adding what you would pay for the second card, and buying a newer model). It would restrict you less in terms of compatibility as well.

I mean, I did get a second GPU at some point for the sake of it, so if it's something you always wanted to try, why not? Just bear in mind it may not be the most cost-effective alternative.

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1 minute ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

I guess it all depends on the price of a 750 by then, but I'll be surprised if you are not better off with a GPU upgrade (selling yours, adding what you would pay for the second card, and buying a newer model). It would restrict you less in terms of compatibility as well.

I mean, I did get a second GPU at some point for the sake of it, so if it's something you always wanted to try, why not? Just bear in mind it may not be the most cost-effective alternative.

before my raid controller died I was contemplating on getting a gtx 960 

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Model MSI MS-7693
Processor AMD FX-6300 @ 3.80 GHz 
1 processor, 3 cores, 6 threads overclocked to 4.4 GHz
Processor ID AuthenticAMD Family 21 Model 2 Stepping 0
Processor Codename Vishera
Processor Package Socket AM3+ (942)
L1 Instruction Cache 16 KB x 3
L1 Data Cache 64 KB x 6
L2 Cache 2048 KB x 3
L3 Cache 8192 KB
Motherboard MSI 970A SLI Krait Edition (MS-7693)
Northbridge AMD RD9x0 02
Southbridge AMD SB910/950 40
BIOS American Megatrends Inc. V25.4
Memory 8192 MB DDR3 SDRAM 800MHz
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