What do I upgrade i5 to

[ripper101]

So after playing BF1 it's the first case I've seen my PC setup bottleneck (i5 4440, GTX 1070, and 1080p). I got above 60 fps on ultra but the game was jittery and I hit lag spikes (CPU usage: 100% GPU usage: 60% while playing BF1). want to upgrade my CPU not for one game but I think it's time I upgrade it for future games. What should I upgrade to thanks (don't have a budget right now open to suggestions).

[xephoneration]

i5 6600k or i7 6700k if you got the money and want to switch motherboards

[Enderman]

i5 + 2 = i7

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, xephoneration said:

i5 6600k or i7 6600k if you got the money and want to switch motherboards

never heard of i7 6600k

[xephoneration]

Just now, dexxterlab97 said:

never heard of i7 6600k

ffs welp rip me i7 6700k

[Thorimus]

Wait for Kaby Lake and get a Z270 motherboard and i7-7700K with a good cooler, like the Cryorig H5 Ultimate and 16GB of RAM.

[DarkBlade2117]

3 hours ago, xephoneration said:

i5 6600k or i7 6700k if you got the money and want to switch motherboards

Would it not make more sense for him to just get a 4790k since he already has the Motherboard and Ram?

[Guest]

1 minute ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

Would it not make more sense for him to just get a 4790k since he already has the Motherboard and Ram?

no. because everyone jumps to skylake bandwagon too soon.

[DarkBlade2117]

2 hours ago, dexxterlab97 said:

no. because everyone jumps to skylake bandwagon too soon.

What....?

[Imakuni]

7 minutes ago, ripper101 said:

So after playing BF1 it's the first case I've seen my PC setup bottleneck (i5 4440, GTX 1070, and 1080p). I got above 60 fps on ultra but the game was jittery and I hit lag spikes (CPU usage: 100% GPU usage: 60% while playing BF1). want to upgrade my CPU not for one game but I think it's time I upgrade it for future games. What should I upgrade to thanks (don't have a budget right now open to suggestions).

I wouldn't suggest an upgrade. Rather, use DSR to render the game at, say, 4k and cause a GPU bottleneck. This will get rid of the stuttering.

[xephoneration]

Just now, DarkBlade2117 said:

Would it not make more sense for him to just get a 4790k since he already has the Motherboard and Ram?

I mean he could not use DDR4 (motherboard not cpu terms of that), but like I said if you got the money go for it. other wise 4790k is good as well

[SLAYR]

A i7 4770, 4770k, 4790, or the 4790k, are much better options as all you have to do is just replace the i5 with it, with skylake you need new ram, motherboard, and the cpu, for similar performance to haswell.

[DarkBlade2117]

3 hours ago, xephoneration said:

I mean he could not use DDR4 (motherboard not cpu terms of that), but like I said if you got the money go for it. other wise 4790k is good as well

No, It has to be DD3L or whatever the name of it is and plus if it does say it supports DDR3, you still shouldn't do it since the voltage of DDr3 is different from DDR4 which can cause problems with the CPU.

[xephoneration]

17 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

No, It has to be DD3L or whatever the name of it is and plus if it does say it supports DDR3, you still shouldn't do it since the voltage of DDr3 is different from DDR4 which can cause problems with the CPU.

Oh that is right! sorry that you for correcting me. 

[Imakuni]

29 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

No, It has to be DD3L or whatever the name of it is and plus if it does say it supports DDR3, you still shouldn't do it since the voltage of DDr3 is different from DDR4 which can cause problems with the CPU.

11 minutes ago, xephoneration said:

Oh that is right! sorry that you for correcting me. 

That's actually not right. Skylake can support DDR3 just fine, RAM voltage doesn't matter and causes no harm. Modules running at 1.5v (or 1.65v for some kits) aren't a problem. In fact, it could run at 2.0v just fine. People do it with DDR4 even and their CPUs aren't dead, though I can't say the same aobut their RAM sticks...

 

At any rate, DDR3, by itself, is not the prblem. The problem with DDR3 + Skylake is that when mobos see that DDR3 with high volts, they tend to push VCCIO and VCCSA higher than they should. And THAT'S the real issue. It's not that DDR3 uses 1.5V, it's just that mobos are dumb; manually set both problematic voltages to proper levels and you'll be perfectly fine.

 

 

With that said, I still don't recommend DDR3 + Skylake in the slightest. It's dumb. One of the most dumb ideas ever. One of the main reasons to get the 6th gen was DDR4 in the first place. Not to mention a slight drop in performance. If one wants to stick to DDR3, go for Haswell, perhaps aim for a used i7.

 

But if you want Skylake, then do it right and get the thing along with DDR4.

[ripper101]

2 hours ago, Thorimus said:

Wait for Kaby Lake and get a Z270 motherboard and i7-7700K with a good cooler, like the Cryorig H5 Ultimate and 16GB of RAM.

When

[Imakuni]

21 minutes ago, ripper101 said:

When

Exact dates are unknown, but a good guess would be late Feb 2017.

[jett473]

3 hours ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

What....?

i think he was being sarcastic, mocking how everyone ignores what you suggested and just say, "yeah! spend a shit load of money because more performance!!!" 

[jett473]

with what i said in my latest post, go for a 4790 or something. it'll last you a good while and isn't going to require too much money.

[silverjay928]

get a 4790k or just the non k sku if you don't OC or go for skylake with an i5- 6400-6600k if you are willing to change MotherBoard and Ram as well.

[nbrigdan]

Depends how much you want to spend. For ultra cheap buy an i5-6400 bundled with a Z170 mobo, throw on a 30 dollar cooler (deepcool gammax 400, zalman, etc) download an OC enabled bios and OC it to ~4.5 GHz, then call it a day.

[Nena Trinity]

A i7 should help! Since you got LGA1150 why not i7-4790K?

[ripper101]

9 hours ago, Nena360 said:

A i7 should help! Since you got LGA1150 why not i7-4790K?

23 hours ago, jett473 said:

with what i said in my latest post, go for a 4790 or something. it'll last you a good while and isn't going to require too much money.

On 9/26/2016 at 0:53 PM, SLAYR said:

A i7 4770, 4770k, 4790, or the 4790k, are much better options as all you have to do is just replace the i5 with it, with skylake you need new ram, motherboard, and the cpu, for similar performance to haswell.

19 hours ago, silverjay928 said:

get a 4790k or just the non k sku if you don't OC or go for skylake with an i5- 6400-6600k if you are willing to change MotherBoard and Ram as well.

Does this even support an i7 because of Haswell refresh? 

Also if I went skylake what if i sold my RAM, CPU, MOBO to make some money back?

 

 

[Nena Trinity]

8 minutes ago, ripper101 said:

Does this even support an i7 because of Haswell refresh? 

Also if I went skylake what if i sold my RAM, CPU, MOBO to make some money back?

 

 

I think a friend of mine put a i7-4790K in a board like that, but he sold that computer some time ago... Check the web pages CPU compatibility list!

[jett473]

23 hours ago, ripper101 said:

Does this even support an i7 because of Haswell refresh? 

Also if I went skylake what if i sold my RAM, CPU, MOBO to make some money back?

 

 

whoops only just now saw this.

 

but yes! That board has a LG1150 socket, so as long as you get a i7 that fits the LG1150 socket (such as the 4590, 4690, 4790 etc.) you should be good!

 

(also, go by the initial number for CPUs. Anything with a 4 should fit that, and i wouldn't recommend getting a 4---k because, 1. You don't seem to care about overclocking so it'd be a waste of money 2. The board doesn't even support overclocking)

 

hope this helps!