Did I make a mistake by taking the GTX 1060 over the RX 480 ?

[TheRealZenith]

So as usual, when upgrading to a new GPU, I did my usual research, checking benchmarks for Power Usage, Games and temps. GTX 1060 seemed like the slightly better choice and I went with it. However, today, I saw the massive gain RX 480 gets on DX12 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uoanTrMenI : and researched more about Async and realized  AMD’ newer cards have ACE's (Asynchronous Compute Engines) physically built into their silicon chips. Nvidia cards simply don’t.Now what Nvidia has is a software driver that allows them to Run the Game engine code on a DX12 game where Asynchronous compute is running. But they run the code in a serial pipeline like DX11.

So your card can run the code but it cannot take advantage of the code. You get no performance boost and you actually lose a little bit of performance because of schedule switching that slows up your GPU a little bit depending on how well optimized nvidia drivers are.So you can theoretically with GOOD drivers run a DX12 game with Async-compute but you cannot leverage that feature to reduce frame latency and boost FPS because you do not have the physical SMT(simultaneous multi-threading) engines build into your hardware.

So in terms of future games and the overall shift , the RX 480 would have been the far better choice

It sucks even more when i realized that in most cases the difference between the 480 and the 1060 is around 5-8 fps, something I could have easily lived with. 

Am I overthinking it here ?  

[GreezyJeezy]

no

[zMeul]

no

[fwright18]

no

[App4that]

No, lets look at the largest Steam release of 2016 that just happened days ago. The 1060 is 40% faster than the 480.

 

 

[handymanshandle]

I'm going to go against what others said, and say well that's really up to you.

The 1060 is great in current and older games, and not too bad in newer games. The 480 does edge it out in DX12 and Vulkan. However both are great cards, and for 1080p gaming both are fine. Sure if you want all the eye candy the 1060 is great for that. Or 1080 144hz or 1440p 60hz is really where the 1060 is best suited for. But for 1080p 60hz the 480 is just fine. 

[TheRealZenith]

Just now, App4that said:

No, lets look at the largest Steam release of 2016 that just happened days ago. The 1060 is 40% faster than the 480.

 

 

 

Thats fine, but my concern as you can read is elsewhere. See the benchmarks i posted as well, the shift to dx12 + vulkun will happen and then 480 will probably take the lead. I am aware that my card wins on most games atm though  

[handymanshandle]

5 minutes ago, App4that said:

No, lets look at the largest Steam release of 2016 that just happened days ago. The 1060 is 40% faster than the 480.

a.) Are they comparing reference card to reference card?

b.) No mans sky doesn't account for all games. In the Hardware Unboxed comparison review the average difference between the reference 1060 (iirc) and reference 480 was about 12%.

 

[App4that]

3 minutes ago, TheRealZenith said:

Thats fine, but my concern as you can read is elsewhere. See the benchmarks i posted as well, the shift to dx12 + vulkun will happen and then 480 will probably take the lead. I am aware that my card wins on most games atm though  

Like Dues Ex? No, that's being released on DX11. See the point? DX12 and Vulkan are AMD's boogie man to scare good little gamers into buying their product. Only the switch isn't happening because of problems with Dx12. 

 

No worries mate, you bought a great card. Don't let the marketing get you twisted. 

[Masada02]

Both are great cards and you made a fine decision. People are going to argue back and for about which one is slightly better than the other, but it doesn't really matter. Your card performs well, and so does the 480. End of story.

[Citadelen]

8 minutes ago, App4that said:

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Oh please, No Man's Sky, really? It uses OpenGL, of course it runs terribly on AMD. How many relevant games do you know use OpenGL?

Averaged out the 1060 is 7-10% faster than the RX 480 in DX11, with the RX 480 being faster in both DX12 and Vulkan. 

[ThinkWithPortals]

15 minutes ago, App4that said:

 

And yet neither can get 60fps average at 1440p medium settings... go home No Man's Sky, you're drunk...

 

Anyway, the GTX 1060 is the statistically better card, but if you're a European scrub like I am and the 1060 is upwards of £50 more expensive than the 480, than the 480 is the better buy.

[App4that]

Just now, Citadelen said:

Oh please, No Man's Sky, really? It uses OpenGL, of course it runs terribly on AMD. How many relevant games do you know use OpenGL?

Averaged out the 1060 is 7-10% faster than the RX 480 in DX11, with the RX 480 being faster in both DX12 and Vulkan. 

 

Just now, ThinkWithPortals said:

And yet neither can get 60fps average at 1440p medium settings... go home No Man's Sky, you're drunk...

You didn't get the point. You can cherry pick ether way, so getting upset over a cherry picked game benchmark is silly. The 1060 is in no danger of having any issues playing any modern game or any on the horizon. 

[ThinkWithPortals]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

 

You didn't get the point. You can cherry pick ether way, so getting upset over a cherry picked game benchmark is silly. The 1060 is in no danger of having any issues playing any modern game or any on the horizon. 

Forgive me, I wasn't criticising your choice of benchmark, I was criticising No Man's Sky for being a buggy, unoptimised, overpriced disappointment of a game.

[App4that]

Just now, ThinkWithPortals said:

Forgive me, I wasn't criticising your choice of benchmark, I was criticising No Man's Sky for being a buggy, unoptimised, overpriced disappointment of a game.

You preach then brother. I couldn't agree more. What a disappointment. 

[Citadelen]

Just now, App4that said:

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Please enlighten me, what is the point? Oh and lay off the sublime superiority rhetoric as well, I'll take you more seriously.

No it isn't, I don't think anyone here said it was, it's simply that it won't be as good as the RX 480.

[App4that]

Just now, Citadelen said:

Please enlighten me, what is the point? Oh and lay off the sublime superiority rhetoric as well, I'll take you more seriously.

No it isn't, I don't think anyone here said it was, it's simply that it won't be as good as the RX 480.

[Citadelen]

Just now, App4that said:

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I was expecting some kind of angry barrage ala zMeul, ignore ala Majestic or big words ala Patrick.  

[App4that]

5 minutes ago, Citadelen said:

I was expecting some kind of angry barrage ala zMeul, ignore ala Majestic or big words ala Patrick.  

As my brother said above both the 480 and 1060 are great cards, and they will trade blows in the games being released as did their fathers before them the 390 and 970. Fueling healthy debate here in the senate, but not really effecting anyone with ether cards ability to enjoy their games. 

 

No that's for ironic names like Hello Games. They and those like them will cause us to curse, not AMD or Nvidia. 

[TheRealZenith]

Thanks everyone for weighing in on this thread, learned a lot and did some more research. I will be exchanging my GTX 1060 with the Sapphire RX 480 tomorrow.  

[App4that]

15 minutes ago, TheRealZenith said:

Thanks everyone for weighing in on this thread, learned a lot and did some more research. I will be exchanging my GTX 1060 with the Sapphire RX 480 tomorrow.  

Good luck with that. 

[JabroniBaloney]

I did the opposite of what OP is doing and couldn't be happier with the 1060. But different strokes and all.

[TheRealZenith]

36 minutes ago, JabroniBaloney said:

I did the opposite of what OP is doing and couldn't be happier with the 1060. But different strokes and all.

Wanna give me the reasons ? always open to more info 

[xAcid9]

6 hours ago, TheRealZenith said:

Thanks everyone for weighing in on this thread, learned a lot and did some more research. I will be exchanging my GTX 1060 with the Sapphire RX 480 tomorrow.  

What make you go for that decision? 

[Dabombinable]

7 hours ago, Citadelen said:

Oh please, No Man's Sky, really? It uses OpenGL, of course it runs terribly on AMD. How many relevant games do you know use OpenGL?

Averaged out the 1060 is 7-10% faster than the RX 480 in DX11, with the RX 480 being faster in both DX12 and Vulkan. 

My 2 cents worth-between 2010 and 2013 AMD reduced OpenGL performance to around a third of what it was...which might explain the low performance they have now.