Haswell or Skylake?

[Busconian]

I got two main choices. Feel free to add but here is what I got so far.

I am going to upgrade my system pretty soon and its more of a budget system at the moment, so just gonna upgrade to get better frames and nicer quality.

I play at 1080p usually but might step up to a 1440p

 

Current Rig:

CPU: AMD 4300 @ 3.8Ghz

Mobo: MSI 760gm-p34

RAM: 8gb 1333 Mhz DDR3

GPU: GTX 750ti

PSU: 600w Thermaltake (I know its terrible im dumb :P)

HDD: 500gb and 2TB WD Drives

Case: Fractal Define R4
 

Choice 1:

CPU: i5 6500

Mobo: Gigabyte H110m Motherboard

RAM: 8gb 2133 Mhz DDR4

GPU: GTX 1060 

PSU: 600w Thermaltake 

SSD: 120gb Adata drive

HDD: 500gb and 2TB WD Drives

Case: Fractal Define R4

Price: $980

 

Choice 2:

CPU: i5 4690k *I already have a 212 evo*

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z97 Motherboard

RAM: 8gb 1333 Mhz DDR3

GPU: GTX 970

PSU: 600w Thermaltake 

HDD: 500gb and 2TB WD Drives

Case: Fractal Define R4

Price: 1,000

 

There are benefits to both. 

Choice 1:

-6GB of VRAM

-Faster memory

-Newer chipset

 

Choice 2:

-Can upgrade to SLI later

-Overclockable CPU

-Motherboard that can support more than 1 GPU

-Better CPU clock speed

-Supports quad channel RAM

 

Opinions? 

 

 

[Antony Leung]

The real question is did you read this?

Please clear out the main questions of the posting guideline.

[Busconian]

Just now, Antony Leung said:

The real question is did you read this?

 

Yes.... And your point is?

[VAkena]

Tough one. I'd personally opt for option 2 becuase the pros outweigh the pros of option 1. I think you should get another 8GB stick of RAM to add to the build.

[jmert]

skylake imo

[Antony Leung]

Just now, Busconian said:

Yes.... And your point is?

You didn't clear out the question of 

On 27/1/2013 at 3:16 AM, Windspeed36 said:

2. Aim

What is the system going to be used for? Web browsing, 3D work?

[Busconian]

Just now, VAkena said:

Tough one. I'd personally opt for option 2 becuase the pros outweigh the pros of option 1. I think you should get another 8GB stick of RAM to add to the build.

That adds about an extra $50. Perhaps if I can find a sale or something, in consideration.

[Antony Leung]

Also let me introduce you to http://pcpartpicker.com/list/, if you didn't about this page, is used here for mark the list of hardware you want to get.

[TrigrH]

Choice X:

CPU: i5 6400 + 212 evo

Mobo: Asrock Fatal1ty B150 Gaming K4/Hyper

RAM: 8gb 2133 Mhz DDR4

GPU: RX 480 devil

PSU: 600w Thermaltake 

SSD: 120gb Adata drive

HDD: 500gb and 2TB WD Drives

Case: Fractal Define R4

[Busconian]

Just now, Antony Leung said:

Also let me introduce you to http://pcpartpicker.com/list/, if you didn't about this page, is used here for mark the list of hardware you want to get.

If you are not going to help please leave the post.

[VAkena]

1 minute ago, Busconian said:

That adds about an extra $50. Perhaps if I can find a sale or something, in consideration.

In all honesty though, I really like the build (option 2). I only say add another stick of similar RAM because it just adds that little bit of future-proof-ness; otherwise I can't fault it. 

[Busconian]

Just now, VAkena said:

In all honesty though, I really like the build (option 2). I only say add another stick of similar RAM because it just adds that little bit of future-proof-ness; otherwise I can't fault it. 

Sweet.  

[TheRandomness]

Just now, Busconian said:

Sweet.  

Build 1 because it's Skylake and offers an upgrade path. Also, you should change the 600W pos that is that thermal take PSU. Get something from XFX (except XT), Seasonic or from EVGA's GS/GQ/G2 lineups. 

[Busconian]

2 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

Choice X:

CPU: i5 6400 + 212 evo

Mobo: Asrock Fatal1ty B150 Gaming K4/Hyper

RAM: 8gb 2133 Mhz DDR4

GPU: RX 480 devil

PSU: 600w Thermaltake 

SSD: 120gb Adata drive

HDD: 500gb and 2TB WD Drives

Case: Fractal Define R4

What does the Asrock board add to help with performance? Not shutting down just curious.

[RS2007GOD]

Id go skylake but somehowfit in a z170 for the future if you ever want to go with a k series

[TrigrH]

8 minutes ago, Busconian said:

What does the Asrock board add to help with performance? Not shutting down just curious.

Choice X:

-Can upgrade to crossfire later (16/4 lane config)

-Overclockable CPU (via BLCK thanks to the motherboard)

-Motherboard that can support more than 1 GPU

-Better CPU clock speed (when OC)

-8GB of VRAM

-Faster memory

-Newer chipset

-NVME ssd support

[Busconian]

Just now, TheRandomness said:

Build 1 because it's Skylake and offers an upgrade path. Also, you should change the 600W pos that is that thermal take PSU. Get something from XFX (except XT), Seasonic or from EVGA's GS/GQ/G2 lineups. 

Yea, I was going to upgrade it most likely just could not decide to do so or not.

[Antony Leung]

9 minutes ago, Busconian said:

If you are not going to help...

Sure thing, i want help but i dont know the contex of what it will used for. i dont read minds, i dont know how much you will spend. but i wil assumed that you will used for gaming  and is under 1000$ mark so here my submission.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170-GAMING 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($77.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($59.98 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($63.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.43 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card  ($269.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($85.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $905.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-30 01:04 EDT-0400

 

 

[Busconian]

Just now, TrigrH said:

Choice X:

-Can upgrade to crossfire later (16/4 lane config)

-Overclockable CPU (via BLCK thanks to the motherboard)

-Motherboard that can support more than 1 GPU

-Better CPU clock speed (when OC)

-Supports quad channel RAM

Alright, its only a like 3 bucks more than Choice 2 and if it can overclock and such that would be wonderful.

[TrigrH]

Just now, Busconian said:

Alright, its only a like 3 bucks more than Choice 2 and if it can overclock and such that would be wonderful.

yes, you are able to overclock via base clock only, not via the multiplier.

[TheRandomness]

Just now, Busconian said:

Alright, its only a like 3 bucks more than Choice 2 and if it can overclock and such that would be wonderful.

It doesn't support quad channel RAM. That's a CPU thing. It overclocks via the BCLK which can get to 165 before dying iirc. Also, you can get an i5-6400 (cheaper than the 6500) and overclock it further than a 6600 if you're lucky. 

[Busconian]

Just now, Antony Leung said:

Sure thing, i want help but i dont know the contex of what it will used for. i dont read minds, i dont know how much you will spend. but i wil assumed that you will used for gaming  and is unde 1000$ mark so here my submission.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170-GAMING 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($77.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($59.98 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($63.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.43 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card  ($269.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($85.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $905.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-30 01:04 EDT-0400

 

 

I am just upgrading my current tower and I am in CAD currency. Definitley going to use this list to my advantage.

[Busconian]

Just now, TheRandomness said:

It doesn't support quad channel RAM. That's a CPU thing. It overclocks via the BCLK which can get to 165 before dying iirc. Also, you can get an i5-6400 (cheaper than the 6500) and overclock it further than a 6600 if you're lucky. 

Sounds pretty good to me. I do editing in Sony Vegas so if I can even get a small kick out of the overclock for rendering that is fine by me.

[TheRandomness]

2 minutes ago, Busconian said:

I am just upgrading my current tower and I am in CAD currency. Definitley going to use this list to my advantage.

Could get a cheaper mobo, 8GBs of RAM and a G2 instead of a P2 PSU and using the money saved you could get a nicer graphics card like the Red Devil 480 or Nitro 480 instead of reference. 

[Busconian]

2 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

yes, you are able to overclock via base clock only, not via the multiplier.

Did not know that, thanks for the info.