How does AMD survived

[zehao39]

I have do some research few months ago on and. According yahoo fiance that AMD are losing millions of money every years in past 5 years. How do they lose so much money ? And how do they live with that?

[RadiatingLight]

Where did you see that?

they make money off selling GPUs and CPUs

[themaniac]

Just now, RadiatingLight said:

Where did you see that?

they make money off selling GPUs and CPUs

they still dont make a proftit though

 

1 minute ago, zehao39 said:

I have do some research few months ago on and. According yahoo fiance that AMD are losing millions of money every years in past 5 years. How do they lose so much money ? And how do they live with that?

you do realize they can take out loans and they had a billion or two in reserve(i'm not sure on this) and iirc they are projected to go bankrupt somewhere in 2018-2020 if they cant make a profit

[Magikarpdrowned]

2 minutes ago, zehao39 said:

I have do some research few months ago on and. According yahoo fiance that AMD are losing millions of money every years in past 5 years. How do they lose so much money ? And how do they live with that?

They live with that shamefully. It's truly disheartening to see anyone lose millions of money. Millions of one singular money. Good job.

[TriFlix Films]

AMD lives because NVIDIA allows them to... If NVIDIA bought out AMD, NVIDIA would be a monoply on the GPU industry and would become government regulated.

 

Same thing with Apple/Android or Verizon/Other large Carriers

[zehao39]

here is income statement for AMD in past few years. The number in buckets mean it is negative and all the number are in thousands

[Magikarpdrowned]

Just now, Magikarpdrowned said:

They live with that shamefully. It's truly disheartening to see anyone lose millions of money. Millions of one singular money. Good job.

Anyways to answer your question they stay afloat because they hold a near monopoly on the low-price CPU market, and thy are pretty popular manufacturers of laptop processors and graphics devices.

[themaniac]

Just now, TriFlix Films said:

AMD lives because NVIDIA allows them to... If NVIDIA bought out AMD, NVIDIA would be a monoply on the GPU industry and would become government regulated.

 

Same thing with Apple/Android or Verizon/Other large Carriers

honestly if anything its intel that wants to keep them alive

[Oshino Shinobu]

2 minutes ago, TriFlix Films said:

AMD lives because NVIDIA allows them to... If NVIDIA bought out AMD, NVIDIA would be a monoply on the GPU industry and would become government regulated.

 

Same thing with Apple/Android or Verizon/Other large Carriers

They wouldn't become a monopoly in the GPU industry. They'd have close to a monopoly in the dedicated graphics card industry, but for GPUs, there's guys such as Qualcomm and Intel that move gigantic quantities of GPUs. Nvidia's market share in the mobile GPU industry is small in comparison to Qualcomm, for example. 

[forthe48]

When were you when AMD was survive?

 

I was sat at home drinking whiskey when Nvidia ring.

 

'AMD is survive'

 

'no'

 

and you????

[zehao39]

I just do not get how do they lose that mount of money. We are talk about thousands of million. If they are good at low end how do they lose that much?

[GirlFromYonder]

Well honestly i just hope not because amd is actually the only company here u treats its users nicely, specially in the gpu market(nvidia's hidden fees)

[Julian5]

Just now, zehao39 said:

I just do not get how do they lose that mount of money. We are talk about thousands of million. If they are good at low end how do they lose that much?

I grammar much million thousad

[Prokart2000]

I guess with zen they could make money as long as it is decent

[TriFlix Films]

1 minute ago, themaniac said:

honestly if anything its intel that wants to keep them alive

 

Just now, Oshino Shinobu said:

They wouldn't become a monopoly in the GPU industry. They're have close to a monopoly in the dedicated graphics card industry, but for GPUs, there's guys such as Qualcomm and Intel that move gigantic quantities of GPUs. Nvidia's market share in the mobile GPU industry is small in comparison to Qualcomm, for example.

My point still stands, the largest comany's could easily destroy AMD at a moments notice. NVIDIA is holding back their technology and AMD is struggling to keep up. (Gaming performance wise).

 

In the CPU market yes.... Intel would be the competition. I actually forgot AMD made CPU's when i posted lol. But don't compare Intel Graphics to Nvidia in terms of gaming/workstations hahaha. Intel has the ability to create one but yeilds to in terms of price/performance ratio that is.

[zehao39]

So are the CPU and gpu just sit in the warehouses and just can not sell? Or their income are much less than their R&D cost?

 

[themaniac]

Just now, TriFlix Films said:

 

My point still stands, the largest comany's could easily destroy AMD at a moments notice. NVIDIA is holding back their technology and AMD is struggling to keep up. (Gaming performance wise).

 

In the CPU market yes.... Intel would be the competition. I actually forgot AMD made CPU's when i posted lol. But don't compare Intel Graphics to Nvidia in terms of gaming/workstations hahaha. Intel has the ability to create one but yeilds to in terms of price/performance ratio that is.

well if you think about it intel is doing something quite amazing in the gpu area, seeing as AMD and Nvidia have a huge amount of patents in the gpu area and their still able to compete with amd in the igpu division, if patents weren't a problem they could easily out develop both AMD and Nvidia probably even if AMD and Nvidia worked together

[kaylexmorgana]

8 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

They wouldn't become a monopoly in the GPU industry. They'd have close to a monopoly in the dedicated graphics card industry, but for GPUs, there's guys such as Qualcomm and Intel that move gigantic quantities of GPUs. Nvidia's market share in the mobile GPU industry is small in comparison to Qualcomm, for example. 

gaming gpus.

[zehao39]

Just now, themaniac said:

well if you think about it intel is doing something quite amazing in the gpu area, seeing as AMD and Nvidia have a huge amount of patents in the gpu area and their still able to compete with amd in the igpu division, if patents weren't a problem they could easily out develop both AMD and Nvidia probably even if AMD and Nvidia worked together

that is true. Intel is a much bigger company than NVIDIA in fiance point of veiw

[SageOfSpice]

5 minutes ago, TriFlix Films said:

 

My point still stands, the largest comany's could easily destroy AMD at a moments notice. NVIDIA is holding back their technology and AMD is struggling to keep up. (Gaming performance wise).

 

In the CPU market yes.... Intel would be the competition. I actually forgot AMD made CPU's when i posted lol. But don't compare Intel Graphics to Nvidia in terms of gaming/workstations hahaha. Intel has the ability to create one but yeilds to in terms of price/performance ratio that is.

Intel creates igpus small enough to fit onto a CPU die that outperforms some dedicated graphics cards.

 

If you ask me, that's stupidly impressive.

[themaniac]

Just now, zehao39 said:

that is true. Intel is a much bigger company than NVIDIA in fiance point of veiw

its less finance and more just engineering skill

[TriFlix Films]

Just now, SageOfSpice said:

Intel creates igpus small enough to fit onto a CPU die that outperforms some dedicated graphics cards.

 

If you ask me, that's stupidly impressive.

What iGPU is performing 750ti or higher? I mean I use a 970 that is over double the performance of a 750ti but still we have 1060/70/80's now... price to performance? Yeah, iGPU's are good but even then a 750ti is under $100 now and plays most games on medium-high.

 

 

[AresKrieger]

6 minutes ago, 69ing Rainbow Dash said:

gaming gpus.

That isn't a different industry just a specialty in the field of GPUs, since it's not like you can't game on an igpu it's just fairly weak

[zehao39]

Just now, TriFlix Films said:

What iGPU is performing 750ti or higher? I mean I use a 970 that is over double the performance of a 750ti but still we have 1060/70/80's now... price to performance? Yeah, iGPU's are good but even then a 750ti is under $100 now and plays most games on medium-high.

 

 

well. The igpu are using ram as vram that could effect a lot. But I do agree that igpu is nothing

[SageOfSpice]

1 minute ago, TriFlix Films said:

What iGPU is performing 750ti or higher? I mean I use a 970 that is over double the performance of a 750ti but still we have 1060/70/80's now... price to performance? Yeah, iGPU's are good but even then a 750ti is under $100 now and plays most games on medium-high.

 

 

You can buy an i3 with an igpu for less than $100 if you want to talk value.