[Officially confirmed] Intel unveils Broadwell-E CPUs with Complete Benchmarks, Price, 6950x's Overclocking results.

[kameshss]

Intel unveils their latest enthusiasts lineup of Broadwell-E CPUs today [31 May, 2016]

 

Coming in from 6800K which has 8 cores and 12 threads and all the way upto 6950x 10 cores and 20 threads CPUs.

 

Spec List:

 

 

 

All the CPU has 140W of TDP. With 6800K has 28 native PCI Lanes support and other 3 CPUs supports 40 native PCI Lanes!

 

Photos of CPUs:

 

 

CPU-Z Images:

 

 

 

 

 

Benchmarks:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Power Consumption Benchmarks:

 

 

 

 

Turbo Boost 3.0 Explained:

 

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According to Intel, its Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 gives you the ability to characterize a CPU’s performance via software, identify the strongest core and run single-threaded workloads on it. The idea is to maximize the amount of time you spend at high frequencies, scaling down as core utilization increases. It either requires OS awareness or Intel’s core affinitization driver; we used the latter on our Windows 10-based test benches. Intel doesn’t consider this overclocking, as the CPU continues to operate within its specifications. 

 

 

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This capability is enabled across all four Broadwell-E processors for now. Intel couldn’t tell us whether there’s any hardware on-die needed to support Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0, but motherboard BIOS support is required. We wouldn't be surprised to see this functionality make its way into the next generation of mainstream processors as well.

Turbo Boost Max does not take the place of Turbo Boost 2.0—that feature continues to increase clock rate up to predetermined limit based on core utilization. Rather, Turbo Boost Max appears to pin affinity to the “fastest” core and actually exceed that ceiling. The trick is it can be difficult to spot. There's a Utilization Threshold percentage that must be crossed during an Evaluation Interval, which assures Turbo Boost Max kicks in to help with demanding work. By default, the threshold is 90% and the interval is 1000ms. Our single-threaded LAME benchmark never hits 90%, so as we were looking for Turbo Boost Max in that real-world test, we never saw frequencies above 3.4GHz (within the -6950X's Turbo Boost 2.0 range). Cinebench's single-core benchmark tops out at 99.5% utilization on one core though, so it stretches all the way up to 4GHz according to ThrottleStop 8.10 Beta 2.

 

 

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There's naturally a limit to where Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 can no longer provide its benefit. In the graph above, we ran Prime95's torture test with one thread active, turned it off, increased to two threads, turned it off and then fired up three threads. The first pass gave us 3.9GHz before dropping back to an EIST-imposed 1.2GHz. Next, we saw 3.8GHz. By the time three threads were active, the Core i7-6950X was pegged at 3.4GHz.

Intel could probably do a better job documenting this feature, but we're not sure if it's guaranteeing up to 4GHz on a -6950X through Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 or simply telling enthusiasts they can expect some arbitrary degree of additional performance based on the quality of their CPU.

 

 

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The move from Haswell-E to Broadwell-E is a change from 22nm to 14nm process technology but the microarchitecture is mostly the same, barring minor adjustments. These adjustments include an improved memory controller (now qualified on DDR4-2400), a faster divider, slightly improved branch prediction, a slightly larger scheduler, and a reduction in AVX multiply latency from 5 cycles to 3 cycles. Due to this, the performance of the new Broadwell-E parts is somewhat predictable. Adding more cores and adjusting for latency is a good marker, adjusting for the new memory speed. That means a move from an i7-5960X to the i7-6950X gives two more cores at the same frequency, or about 25% extra more performance. The downside of this upgrade is the price: the i7-5960X was launched at $999/$1049, whereas the new i7-6950X is $1723. That’s a big jump in anyone’s book.

 

Source: The Verge, AnandTech

 

Pricing & Availability: 

 

[Shimejii]

Not Impressed at all with the 6950x, This is exactly why intel is getting out of the consumer CPU business. They cannot accomplish major performance boosts per generation. Its performance "increase" for the price is just not even worth it. Oh well  only the rich and stupid will most likely buy this chip, besides the Tech channels and other people that do it for the benchmark testing.

[nobelharvards]

On 31/05/2016 at 4:38 PM, kameshss said:

Intel unveils their latest enthusiasts lineup of Broadwell-E CPUs today [31 May, 2015]

We are half way through 2016 and you are still living in last year.

 

SMH.

 

If you edit your original post I am going to say some very mean words.

 

The little shitter edited his post. What a pansy. 

[Guest]

Before everyone jumps on the bandwagon of It's too expensive, keep in mind you've gone from say 6 cores in a 3970x at $999 to 10 cores.

[kameshss]

2 minutes ago, nobelharvards said:

We are half way through 2016 and you are still living in last year.

 

SMH.

 

If you edit your original post I am going to say some very mean words.

lol sorry man. imma gonna change that.  

[Dark_Fuzzy]

2 minutes ago, Windspeed36 said:

Before everyone jumps on the bandwagon of It's too expensive, keep in mind you've gone from say 6 cores in a 3970x at $999 to 10 cores.

I think the biggest problem was that they replaced the 5960x on the same platform which pretty much gave no reason for them to sell the 6950x at the same price.

[Shimejii]

i could see it priced at 1300ish, but not for 1750-1800, and probably close to 1900+ with taxes.

[agent_x007]

Xeon E5 2670 can be grabbed from eBay for 70$ (US), and U can get a Dual Socket MB with two of these for A LOT less than 1000$ (that's 16C/32T setup), not to metion the ridiculus 1723$ they want for the "new king" with 10C/20T.

To AMD :
Customers need you, please come back to high end CPU's 

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, agent_x007 said:

Xeon E5 2670 can be grabbed from eBay for 70$ (US), and U can get a Dual Socket MB with two of these for A LOT less than 1000$ (that's 16C/32T setup), not to metion the ridiculus 1723$ they want for the "new king" with 10C/20T.
 

But - NVME support, Turboboost 3.0, new power saving technology, PCIe 3.0, more SATA 6gig on board, warranty support for the boards..

[kameshss]

4 minutes ago, Windspeed36 said:

But - NVME support, Turboboost 3.0, new power saving technology, PCIe 3.0, more SATA 6gig on board, warranty support for the boards..

dont forget about newer enhanced architecture 

[agent_x007]

16 minutes ago, Windspeed36 said:

But - NVME support, Turboboost 3.0, new power saving technology, PCIe 3.0, more SATA 6gig on board, warranty support for the boards..

NVME - not a thing yet (at least for virualisation/rendering, at which this 6+ Core is aimed at).
Turbo Boost 3.0 ? 
16C/32T @ 3GHz, will "destroy" a 8C/16T @ 4GHz in any task that can scale to 16 Cores/32 threads.
PCI-e 3.0 ? 
Xeon E5 2670 supports that : LINK, and it has all 40 lanes of it build right in. 
SATA 6G is also not a problem since with this kind of price difference you can buy sata additional sata controller (if you need it).
Warranty support for board : Xeon will work in any X79 board.
It's true that with dual socket U will lose it, but server grade stuff is quite durable

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, agent_x007 said:

NVME - not a thing yet (at least for virualisation/rendering, at which this 6+ Core is aimed at).
Turbo Boost 3.0 ? 
16C/32T @ 3GHz, will "destroy" a 8C/16T @ 4GHz in any task that can scale to 16 Cores/32 threads.
PCI-e 3.0 ? 
Xeon E5 2670 supports that : LINK, and it has all 40 lanes of it build right in. 
SATA 6G is also not a problem since with this kind of price difference you can buy sata additional sata controller (if you need it).
Warranty support for board : Xeon will work in any X79 board.
It's true that with dual socket U will lose it, but server grade stuff is quite durable

• NVME isn't a thing? X99 entirely supports multiple NVME SSD's. Older X79 and older Xeon chipsets do not officially support it.
• Turbo boost 3.0 is the newer version with better power management and better scalling to load demand.
• Forgot that E5 v1 had PCIe 3.0 - was used to the Sandy Bridge consumer chips like my 3970X that only is PCIe 2.0.

 

[Gdourado]

From the reviews, how do you think the 6900k performs in comparison to the 5960X?
And is there a veredict on Overclock? Better or worse than Haswell-e?

Cheers!

[Liltrekkie]

The $1700 price tag isn't too far off form the wccftech price leak. 

 

Looks like my future build gets more and more expensive..

 

Any idea when these hit the shelves? didn't see anything about that. 

[Bouzoo]

2 hours ago, Windspeed36 said:

Before everyone jumps on the bandwagon of It's too expensive, keep in mind you've gone from say 6 cores in a 3970x at $999 to 10 cores.

That doesn't justify the price, since those are prices from two flaships. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Core 2 Extreme QX6850 had the same launch price as 3970X, one was C2Q X, the other one was i7 X.  4c vs 6c/12t.

Do you really justify 70% higher price because of 4c/8t?

[AnonymousGuy]

As usual we'll have to see how overclocking goes.  Compute server will probably get the 6950X.

[DELTAprime]

I watched PC Per's and Paul's videos. They both had to do limited testing but looks like the 6950X is the new money is no object CPU to lust over.

[Liltrekkie]

1 minute ago, Quibiss said:

The German online store I usually waste my money on has them in stock and you can order them already. 

• 6800K - 444,90€
• 6850K - 639,90€
• 6900K - 1079,90€
• 6950K - 1714,90€

 

Weird. I looked on Newegg, Amazon, Micro Center and on NCIX, neither have the 6950x or any other broadwell-e processor. Looks like they haven't hit the north american shores yet that I have seen

[deviant88]

2 hours ago, Windspeed36 said:

Before everyone jumps on the bandwagon of It's too expensive, keep in mind you've gone from say 6 cores in a 3970x at $999 to 10 cores.

what are you talking about? the 10 core should replace the 6 core at 999% but instead it costs 1700+ , basically you are giving intel free money since they have no competition, you must be blinded to actually believe a 10 core costs 1700$ at 14nm, that cpu probably costs to produce and cover R&D about 500$ and the rest is pure profit, and those prices are before tax too lol, id expect 2000$+ on shelves in some countries

[VerticalDiscussions]

Back to the black boxes eh :p? That 6800K would be perfect for me :/!

[Valentyn]

A monopoly sure is nice it seems.

I would love a nice 10 core with great performance, but that price? Nope, hoping Zen comes in with a massive storm.
 

[Thony]

I wonder when do we finally stop the "more cores = lower clock speeds"

 

[JoePro87]

5 minutes ago, Thony said:

I wonder when do we finally stop the "more cores = lower clock speeds"

 

When you switch to AMD.  Anyway, I'd love to have one of those bad boys in my rig, but NO WAY IN HELL would I pay that for it. I'd rather have a used Xeon for damn near nothing.

[Thony]

5 minutes ago, JoePro87 said:

When you switch to AMD.  Anyway, I'd love to have one of those bad boys in my rig, but NO WAY IN HELL would I pay that for it. I'd rather have a used Xeon for damn near nothing.

True but that single core performance on AMD side (as of now) is discouraging. 

 

I wanna see what Zen has to offer. It either shakes the whole world or it can fuck off because if after all these years of waiting AMD can't bring something amazing then they are dead to me in CPU market forever and can go manufacture their CPUs for low end laptops and consoles...

[JoePro87]

10 minutes ago, Thony said:

True but that single core performance on AMD side (as of now) is discouraging. 

 

I wanna see what Zen has to offer. It either shakes the whole world or it can fuck off because if after all these years of waiting AMD can't bring something amazing then they are dead to me in CPU market forever and can go manufacture their CPUs for low end laptops and consoles...

Agreed! I currently have an FX-8300...about the worst of the worst in the 8 core market. My son's i3 dual core (Idk what model) beats my 8 cores in EVERY fucking test. Yeah, if Zen can't deliver, I'm done with AMD cpus for good.