Posted May 29, 2016 Im Building my first pc and I don't really know which one of these cpu's to get AMD fx-6300 ($130 Canadian) or AMD Athlon 880k ($132 Canadian) By the way I have in my setup a PNY GTX 950, 500gb hdd, diypc-f2-0 case, 8gb single chanel memory, windows 10 Thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 The FX chips, especially the lower-end ones like the 6300, are basically a waste of money at this point. I'd go with the 860K instead of the 880K--better value--and not look back. Aerocool DS are the best fans you've never tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 Author why the 860k instead of the 880k? whats the difference between the 2, because its only $15 less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, MaxCraft said: why the 860k instead of the 880k? whats the difference between the 2, because its only $15 less get the 880k........ its the same as 860k but the cpu is soldered.. so its probably gonna run at lower temps... and oc more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, aisle9 said: The FX chips, especially the lower-end ones like the 6300, are basically a waste of money at this point. I'd go with the 860K instead of the 880K--better value--and not look back. I disagree some of my friends use the 6300 and it is capable of getting the job done, not at the best framrates in the world, but for a budget cpu its pretty damn good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 Bruh why we even speaking of AMD FX it's 2016... Just get an i5 and please never look back. Im not trying to sound biased or one sided but cmon, you really are not going to regret it in the long run. 4690K // 212 EVO // Z97-PRO // Vengeance 16GB // GTX 770 GTX 970 // MX100 128GB // Toshiba 1TB // Air 540 // HX650 Logitech G502 RGB // Corsair K65 RGB (MX Red) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Swndlr said: Bruh why we even speaking of AMD FX it's 2016... Just get an i5 and please never look back. Im not trying to sound biased or one sided but cmon, you really are not going to regret it in the long run. LOL like someone is going to get a 950 and an i5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 1 minute ago, XamN said: LOL like someone is going to get a 950 and an i5 Thats a rather powerful setup for 1080p games, have you ever seen a 1080p 950 benchmark? And worse comes to worst just get a new GPU when you actually need it, rather than having a processor that by this point is pretty much obsolete and having a decent GPU. 4690K // 212 EVO // Z97-PRO // Vengeance 16GB // GTX 770 GTX 970 // MX100 128GB // Toshiba 1TB // Air 540 // HX650 Logitech G502 RGB // Corsair K65 RGB (MX Red) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Swndlr said: Thats a rather powerful setup for 1080p games, have you ever seen a 1080p 950 benchmark? And worse comes to worst just get a new GPU when you actually need it, rather than having a processor that by this point is pretty much obsolete and having a decent GPU. Maybe if u want to future proof, but thats not really the point in budget systems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 Just now, XamN said: Maybe if u want to future proof, but thats not really the point in budget systems Has nothing to do with future proofing, its a good way to not waste money. If you were to get an FX 6300 and a GTX 950, Im willing to bet that you would be wanting to swap the 6300 out for a new chip before you begin to think of getting another graphics card. 4690K // 212 EVO // Z97-PRO // Vengeance 16GB // GTX 770 GTX 970 // MX100 128GB // Toshiba 1TB // Air 540 // HX650 Logitech G502 RGB // Corsair K65 RGB (MX Red) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 FX-6300 is the best option you really want that extra module and you should get a decent cooler out of the box so you can OC it a bit unless the board you get is terrible, then you may not want to do that... This may help if you want a cheap one but I cannot guarantee it will be safe or work... 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Posted May 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Swndlr said: Has nothing to do with future proofing, its a good way to not waste money. If you were to get an FX 6300 and a GTX 950, Im willing to bet that you would be wanting to swap the 6300 out for a new chip before you begin to think of getting another graphics card. In this case it means spending more money for the same performance. The 950 is not going to use the i5s full potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 1 minute ago, XamN said: In this case it means spending more money for the same performance. The 950 is not going to use the i5s full potential And the 6300 will not use the 950's full potential performance... 4690K // 212 EVO // Z97-PRO // Vengeance 16GB // GTX 770 GTX 970 // MX100 128GB // Toshiba 1TB // Air 540 // HX650 Logitech G502 RGB // Corsair K65 RGB (MX Red) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 5 minutes ago, XamN said: LOL like someone is going to get a 950 and an i5 A Skylake i5 might be overkill for this build by a hair, given the budget, but an i3-6100 would be an ideal CPU. Costs about the same as the FX-6300, but it actually has a future and can be upgraded to a Skylake i5/i7, whereas a 6300 is basically pooping money away because it's on its last legs as a relevant gaming processor. Aerocool DS are the best fans you've never tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 1 minute ago, aisle9 said: A Skylake i5 might be overkill for this build by a hair, given the budget, but an i3-6100 would be an ideal CPU. Costs about the same as the FX-6300, but it actually has a future and can be upgraded to a Skylake i5/i7, whereas a 6300 is basically pooping money away because it's on its last legs as a relevant gaming processor. I agree with you, i3s are great for the money. Correct me if im wrong but can i3s play games that require 4 cores because the i3 has hyperthreading? I think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, aisle9 said: A Skylake i5 might be overkill for this build by a hair, given the budget, but an i3-6100 would be an ideal CPU. Costs about the same as the FX-6300, but it actually has a future and can be upgraded to a Skylake i5/i7, whereas a 6300 is basically pooping money away because it's on its last legs as a relevant gaming processor. I am not sure about that because the FX-6300 is not the FX-4300 and 880K on the other hand is on their last legs since DX11 uses 6-cores decently and DX12 and Vulkan on the way a 6-threaded CPU seems like a good option! 1 minute ago, XamN said: I agree with you, i3s are great for the money. Correct me if im wrong but can i3s play games that require 4 cores because the i3 has hyperthreading? I think so Yes the i3-6100 should be able to but its a bit more costly than FX-6300! 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Posted May 29, 2016 Just now, XamN said: I agree with you, i3s are great for the money. Correct me if im wrong but can i3s play games that require 4 cores because the i3 has hyperthreading? I think so Yes, games recognize the two extra threads as additional cores. Makes it a worthwhile step up from the G3258, but if all someone wants is a dirt-cheap gaming box that can handle today's stuff at 1080p, high settings, 860K is still the way to go. Aerocool DS are the best fans you've never tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 Author so the athlon 880k? because intel is way over my budget, and I don't really need 6 cores, I only really need to play a game like World of Tanks and Warthunder on medium graphics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, MaxCraft said: so the athlon 880k? because intel is way over my budget, and I don't really need 6 cores, I only really need to play a game like World of Tanks and Warthunder on medium graphics Yes it works fine for me! But I used fast RAM also (2133MHz with CL9) But as a owner of both FX-8370 and 880K I advice you to get 1 extra module for more CPU intensive games... 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Posted May 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, MaxCraft said: so the athlon 880k? because intel is way over my budget, and I don't really need 6 cores, I only really need to play a game like World of Tanks and Warthunder on medium graphics Skip the 880K and go with the Athlon X4 860K, then put whatever you save towards a better GPU. The 880K is, in many respects, just a factory overclocked 860K. Aerocool DS are the best fans you've never tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 1 minute ago, aisle9 said: Skip the 880K and go with the Athlon X4 860K, then put whatever you save towards a better GPU. The 880K is, in many respects, just a factory overclocked 860K. I am not sure the 860K gets a good cooler out of the box... (880K did not get Wraith it got the 125w near silent one...) 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Storage 1 & 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD / Storage 3: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 4: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Storage 5: Crucial P1 1000GB M.2 SSD/ Storage 6: Western Digital WD7500BPKX 2.5" HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter (Qualcomm Atheros) Zen-II-X6-3600+ (Gaming PC) R23 score MC: 9893pts | R23 score SC: 1248pts @4.2GHz R23 score MC: 10151pts | R23 score SC: 1287pts @4.3GHz R20 score MC: 3688cb | R20 score SC: 489cb Spoiler Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, 6-cores, 12-threads, 4.2/4.2GHz, 35MB cache (T.S.M.C. 7nm FinFET) / Display: HP 24" L2445w (64Hz OC) 1920x1200 / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT DUAL OC RDNA2 32CUs @2607MHz (T.S.M.C. 7nm FinFET) / 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Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: AMD FX-8370 (Base: @4.4GHz | Turbo: @4.7GHz) Black Edition Eight-Core (Global Foundries 32nm) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC @1501MHz (Samsung 14nm FinFET) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING, Socket-AM3+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1866MHz CL8-10-10-28-37-2T (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN951N 11n Wireless Adapter Godavari-X4-880K | R20 score MC: 810cb Spoiler Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 95w Thermal Solution / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 880K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Display: HP 19" Flat Panel L1940 (75Hz) 1280x1024 / GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC 2GB (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 V2, Socket-FM2+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: SK hynix DDR3-1866MHz CL9-10-11-27-40 (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) / Operating System 2: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Western Digital My Passport 2.5" 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter Acer Aspire 7738G custom (changed CPU, GPU & Storage) Spoiler CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo P8600, 2-cores, 2-threads, 2.4GHz, 3MB cache (Intel 45nm) / GPU: ATi Radeon HD 4570 515MB DDR2 (T.S.M.C. 55nm) / RAM: DDR2-1066MHz CL7-7-7-20-1T (2x2GB) / Operating System: Windows 10 Home / Storage: Crucial BX500 480GB 3D NAND SATA 2.5" SSD Complete portable device SoC history: Spoiler Apple A4 - Apple iPod touch (4th generation) Apple A5 - Apple iPod touch (5th generation) Apple A9 - Apple iPhone 6s Plus HiSilicon Kirin 810 (T.S.M.C. 7nm) - Huawei P40 Lite / Huawei nova 7i Mediatek MT2601 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TicWatch E Mediatek MT6580 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TECNO Spark 2 (1GB RAM) Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (orange) Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (yellow) Mediatek MT6735 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - HMD Nokia 3 Dual SIM Mediatek MT6737 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - Cherry 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Posted May 29, 2016 Author Thanks guys! ill get the 860k! can't wait to build my first pc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, MaxCraft said: Thanks guys! ill get the 860k! can't wait to build my first pc! Good choice. Enjoy LGA775 Overclocking Guide - LGA771 to LGA 775 mod - Rigs in spoiler - Subzero Overclocker - HWBOT - Sandybridge-E Frequency WR Holder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 29, 2016 4 hours ago, CUDA_Cores said: may want to consider buying something like an i5-2500K used if you want good single-threaded performance. I agree. let us all remember now and today, computers do not like abuse, they will fight back! Old Skool KILLBOX. XEON E5640 4.0ghz / ASUS P6X58D-E ~ Noctua NH-L12 ~ eVGA GTX 670 SC 2GB 1312/7000 ~ 4TB 7200 RPM RAID0 ~ CoolerMaster Haf 922 ~ DELL P214H 23" 1080 IPS 2ms ~ HP w2007v 1680x1050. Now Playing: Splinter Cell OG XBOX / CSGO PC Original XBOX - Xecuter 2 4981.67 Bios. Playstation 2 Slim SCPH-70002. Sega Dreamcast. N64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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