Windows Phone sales drops below 1%

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, Albatross said:

900, 920 and 1520.

 

Well of course I shouldn't have bought them. They're trash.

the 1520 was well documented to be shitty. Even I think it was nasty.

 

Honestly, walk up to a Microsoft store (now that they have them everywhere except Europe and Asia) and try out the Lumia 950.

 

 

the x20 generation were kind of shit. But the x30, x40 and x50 were and still are good.

[Albatross]

5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

the 1520 was well documented to be shitty. Even I think it was nasty.

 

Honestly, walk up to a Microsoft store (now that they have them everywhere except Europe and Asia) and try out the Lumia 950.

 

 

the x20 generation were kind of shit. But the x30, x40 and x50 were and still are good.

My experience is that they are all just as bad. I shouldn't have to go through three different kinds of their phones, returned more than once mind you, to find a semi-decent phone. The sales and poor reception of their phones clearly shows more than enough people feel the same way.

 

They just aren't good phones...

[AlTech]

4 minutes ago, Albatross said:

My experience is that they are all just as bad. I shouldn't have to go through three different kinds of their phones, returned more than once mind you, to find a semi-decent phone. The sales and poor reception of their phones clearly shows more than enough people feel the same way.

 

They just aren't good phones...

whatever.............

 

I'm more than happy.

 

[Thony]

18 hours ago, BHS4K said:

For me its To Galaxy or to Nexus

I love my Nexus 5. Almost 2 years old and still as fast as on the day I bought it.

 

For some reason I smiled when I read the topic title

[sof006]

Good please crash and burn. I hate Windows phones. I have to deal with so many faulty ones day to day/ week to week/ month to month in my job and it literally makes me want to cry.

 

I want them gone.

[AlTech]

20 minutes ago, sof006 said:

Good please crash and burn. I hate Windows phones. I have to deal with so many faulty ones day to day/ week to week/ month to month in my job and it literally makes me want to cry.

 

I want them gone.

lol.is that cos you don't know they work?

[GoodBytes]

44 minutes ago, sof006 said:

Good please crash and burn. I hate Windows phones. I have to deal with so many faulty ones day to day/ week to week/ month to month in my job and it literally makes me want to cry.

 

I want them gone.

Yea right. You probably never seen one.

[AlTech]

35 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Yea right. You probably never seen one.

A lot of people claim to hate on windows phones when I have to wonder whether they've ever used one.

[sof006]

1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

A lot of people claim to hate on windows phones when I have to wonder whether they've ever used one.

Have you ever used a Lumia 550? Disgusting phone. They released it with the most buggy version of Windows 10 ever. Had so many customers bring it back in saying their email account won't sync on it, apps stop responding or down right refusing to work. Seen the same fault at least 5 times on that very phone. Fault being that you cannot add any contacts to people, if you try to add one the people hub app force closes. 

 

I work in a phone shop and do tech support, most faulty kind of phones I have in are either iPhone or Windows phone. iPhone probably the most due to popularity and the vast majority of Windows phones because I don't think Microsoft could careless about how they test their OS before releasing it.

 

The only decent Windows phone I have used is the Lumia 950 and its XL version.

 

EDIT: Also the number of errors codes you get on Windows phone that when you google them they give you an answer to fix them but the fix doesn't work.

[Real_PhillBert]

3 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

I've had a few..couple to be exact.  I had an HTC Trophy, and now I have a Lumia 640.  However, I am using an S4 now.

It seems there is a small (perhaps very small) group of people who really like them. Personally, I've never used one so I cant say anything good or bad about them.

 

People should use whatever they want to, if that happens to be a windows phone, more power to ya. My current phone is an S6, FWIW.

[sof006]

4 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

That is one model.

I'm pointing out one of the more faulty ones... there are plenty other ones that are very faulty.

 

Lumia 650 is often terrible. Battery life is horrible on it, similar faults to the 550.

 

Lumia 530 is better than the newer models but has issue where if the phone becomes completely full on storage then the phone stops working completely and you need to do a hard wipe using Windows Recovery tool on PC...

 

The only decent Windows phones are the very expensive ones. You can get a decent Android phone for the same price as the phones i've listed just here and you won't have any of these issues.

 

EDIT: In fact I had a guy swap his 650 to a Samsung Core Prime the other day and I haven't seen him since.

[GoodBytes]

12 minutes ago, sof006 said:

Have you ever used a Lumia 550? Disgusting phone. They released it with the most buggy version of Windows 10 ever. Had so many customers bring it back in saying their email account won't sync on it, apps stop responding or down right refusing to work. Seen the same fault at least 5 times on that very phone. Fault being that you cannot add any contacts to people, if you try to add one the people hub app force closes. 

Sure, but as Microsoft said that currently Windows 10 Mobile is aimed at fans, and is aimed at Insiders. Basically, Microsoft expects you to join the Fast Ring. Fast Ring is like comparing Android 1.0 with Android N. Microsoft released like 1 version update of the production ring. The company is only releasing Fast Ring (almost weekly), and casually Slow ring release (almost monthly). I don't particularly agree with this direction, but it is what it is.

 

Then again, the times I wanted to throw out of the window my Moto G with shitty Android version it shipped, and unlike Windows 10 Mobile, carrier is blocking OS updates preventing me to have a working phone, was just fantastic.

 

This is why Microsoft is not advertising the OS or any of its phones. The OS is not ready, unless you are on the Slow or Fast Ring, and remain there until minimum at least Anniversary Update. But i would say Redstone 2 (with the Surface Phone expected release date in March)

[sof006]

1 minute ago, GoodBytes said:

Sure, but as Microsoft said that currently Windows 10 Mobile is aimed at fans, and is aimed at Insiders. Basically, Microsoft expects you to join the Fast Ring. Fast Ring is like comparing Android 1.0 with Android N. Microsoft released like 1 version update of the production ring. The company is only releasing Fast Ring (almost weekly), and casually Slow ring release (almost monthly). I don't particularly agree with this direction, but it is what it is.

 

This is why Microsoft is not advertising the OS or any of its phones. The OS is not ready, unless you are on the Slow or Fast Ring, and remain there until minimum at least Anniversary Update. But i would say Redstone 2 (with the Surface Phone expected release date in March)

Then why sell a phone to customers in a commercial store if the OS isn't ready?

 

The lumia range is our most returned/exchanged handset in our shop (I work for a big retailer)

[GoodBytes]

12 minutes ago, sof006 said:

Then why sell a phone to customers in a commercial store if the OS isn't ready?

 

The lumia range is our most returned/exchanged handset in our shop (I work for a big retailer)

That I can't answer you. In US and Canada and in most regions, it is through Microsoft store only, or with the carrier website only (like AT&T). AT&T have the device in display, but the store have very few (which was at release) to none, and you are normally asked to order online on AT&T website for what I am told on forums (or they order it for you and shipped to their store for you come and pick it up at a later date when it arrives)

 

I don't know why your store has it in store. What I would suggest is to switch them to the Slow Ring of Windows 10 Mobile at least, and make sure the firmware is fully updated, if they really want a Windows 10 Mobile phone, at least until the Anniversary Update is released (which you'll need to update the phones to, in any case) Make sure that the apps are also fully updated after the upgrade, because the apps on the Slow/Fast Ring are massively better over the Production ring, like no joke. They have have way more features, way more solid, and is way more polished. Heck, Windows 10 Maps has tabs, Cortana voice, faster, improved directions, and more. And that is just 1 app. Again, I don't agree with what Microsoft is doing on this, basically rejecting the production ring, but it is what it is.

 

[sof006]

1 minute ago, GoodBytes said:

That I can't answer you. In US and Canada and in most regions, it is through Microsoft store only, or with the carrier website only (like AT&T). AT&T have the device in display, but the store have very few (which was at release) to none, and you are normally asked to order online on AT&T website for what I am told on forums (or they order it for you and shipped to their store for you come and pick it up at a later date when it arrives)

 

I don't know why your store has it in store. What I would suggest is to switch them to the Slow Ring of Windows 10 Mobile at least, and make sure the firmware is fully updated, if they really want a Windows 10 Mobile phone, at least until the Anniversary Update is released (which you'll need to update the phones to, in any case) Make sure that the apps are also fully updated after the upgrade.

I do that all for them in store when they come in with the issues, it fixes the issues for a short while but they tend to come back again. Just because i'm not fond of slandering the image of a brand in front of a customer i'll tend to blame it on the fact that the handsets price class is of mid to low end and therefore you get what you pay for.... and then suggest they return and exchange within 14 days (as they are legally allowed to)

 

Like I say though this isn't always the case, some people are happy with their Windows phone as they generally don't try to use it for more than calls or texts.

[Annoyingnerds]

23 hours ago, DioOmicida said:

For the vast majority of the market, it's a simple question:
To Galaxy or to Iphone. 

If that's the only two option I'll go for Galaxy

 

[Vivilacqua1]

I'm going to have to agree with all the people that have stopped buying Win phones. I'm sick and tired of my Lumia 929 not working and at the price of a flagship phone when it came out. 

[GoodBytes]

10 hours ago, Vivilacqua1 said:

I'm going to have to agree with all the people that have stopped buying Win phones. I'm sick and tired of my Lumia 929 not working and at the price of a flagship phone when it came out. 

Did you try Windows 10 Mobile?  A new build on the Fast Ring was just released with focused improved on the 929 and 930.

[Vivilacqua1]

10 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

Did you try Windows 10 Mobile?  A new build on the Fast Ring was just released with focused improved on the 929 and 930.

 

 

 

I checked and they said it wouldn't be released on the 829 even though it meets the specifications.

 

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[GoodBytes]

14 minutes ago, Vivilacqua1 said:

I checked and they said it wouldn't be released on the 829 even though it meets the specifications.

Lumia 829 doesn't exists. I guess you meant to type 929.

The 929 is fully supported under the Insider Program.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/preview-supported-phones

 

 

[Vivilacqua1]

8 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Lumia 829 doesn't exists. I guess you meant to type 929.

The 929 is fully supported under the Insider Program.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/preview-supported-phones

 

 

yah, sorry phone keyboard. I just checked the windows update advisor and it said its ready, but the phone is showing up to date (and I know this isn't 10). Possibly Verison has not released it yet?

[GoodBytes]

9 minutes ago, Vivilacqua1 said:

yah, sorry phone keyboard. I just checked the windows update advisor and it said its ready, but the phone is showing up to date (and I know this isn't 10). Possibly Verison has not released it yet?

To join the Insider program to get Windows 10 Mobile for your phone, you need to get this app:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/windows-insider/9wzdncrfjbhk

 

Once you install it, run it, and follow the wizard. And join the Fast Ring.

You will need to restart the phone after (the app will do that for you), and once booted back up, now check for updates, and it should show up. If it's like Windows 10 desktop, you may need to wait several hours before it shows up after you check (takes time to join the required wave, and once in, now Windows Update will show the new build).

 

To recover your phone back to Windows Phone 8, in the case you want to:

You can download and run on your PC, the Windows Device Recovery Tool: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/10662/windows-phone-recover-my-phone

It is also a good way to check and upgrade your firmware if your carrier is blocking them. This will help you get a better experience out of your phone.

The problem is that this tool will also format everything form your phone, so backup your stuff before. The tool should be able to tell your your current firmware, and latest one available for your phone before starting anything.