What should I do? I need help

[FirstTimePC]

What should I do? Buy the GTX 1080 when it releases(reference version)? or wait a while for the non reference cards such as MSI or G1 gaming?

[chriscoolzap]

wait

 

[RyanMacRocks]

Depends on how much of a rush you're in. From what I've herd Nvidea reference coolers really aren't that bad (especially compared to my reference 7970 lol).

[Bananasplit_00]

get a none referance card because its going to overclock better probably and its going to be cheaper then referance

[I am an SSD]

5 minutes ago, FirstTimePC said:

What should I do? Buy the GTX 1080 when it releases(reference version)? or wait a while for the non reference cards such as MSI or G1 gaming?

I like reference...and their coolers arent half bad ...so why not

[PianoPlayer88Key]

I'm currently running Intel HD 4600 in my desktop (CPU is a 4790K).  I expect my planned GTX 1070 upgrade will blow it away.   Heck, I even wonder if it'll blow away my laptop's 970M as soundly as THAT blows away the HD 4600...

 

I'm planning to wait a bit - I'd say there's a 99% or better chance I won't be ordering on launch day.  Also I can't quite afford it just yet.  Technically, I have the money, but it wouldn't leave me anything for anything else.

 

Hopefully, when the time comes (I'm hoping mid-June to July or so), I could maybe get an EVGA SC 1070, or something like that.  I don't want to pay more than $400 if I don't have to.  I think I'd also be fine with Gigabyte and Asus, and under the right circumstances may consider MSI or Zotac.  If I could get a decent EVGA 1070 for like $350-360, that'd be awesome.

 

My original budget was $300-350, but now that we know the $379 price, I may delay a month more (August) to be sure I can afford it.  Several months ago I was considering buying a lower-end card to tide me over, due to crashing issues I was having at the time.  I since was able to change the driver and that mostly seems to have fixed it, with possible caveats - one Source engine game pops up an error when I exit the game.  Around that time, Luke made the video about buying low-end cards (where he tested the GT 730), and the suggestion was made that if you're on a tight budget, buy used.  So, I was looking on ebay at like 8800 GTX's, 9800 GX2's, GTX 285's, GTX 480's.  I ended up not buying one (figured my laptop's 970M should be used for gaming if my desktop's woes continued), and now I'm glad I waited.

 

As for the type of cooler for me... I'm not sure which to get.  My case is the Rosewill Thor V2, with a 140mm rear fan, and 230mm side, front and top fans.  My CPU cooler is the 212 Evo.  We don't have A/C at our house (east of San Diego, CA).  Indoor temps routinely exceed 28°C/82°F in summer, and have been known to hit 32°C/89°F the last few years.  Outdoor temperatures almost always hit 38°C/100°F sometime in summer, and the last couple summers we've seen 42C/108F.  (One particularly sweltering year, we had 47°C/117°F outside!! I don't remember the indoor temp, but from what it felt like, I think it could have been 40°C/104°F INDOORS!!  @Slick, how well would you have been able to handle that?  90° in Austin is cold, in comparison.  Now, they DO have humidity which we don't usually have here, although that year it was humid too.)

Would a reference design be better for me, or a twin-fan aftermarket-cooled card?  (I don't think I want a triple-fan card.)  Also I'd want something quiet, as my computer is next to my piano and I would like to be able to record music without having fan noise get in the recording.  (Even my 212 Evo can get quite loud.)

[FirstTimePC]

My specs right now is a : Intel Core Duo

4GB of ddr2 800 MHz SDRAM

300 GB Hdd

Nvidia Geforce 9400m 256Mb

[OneSaltyDog]

Wait for a Msi or Asus Oc version, will run much cooler and have better clock speeds

[i_build_nanosuits]

7 hours ago, FirstTimePC said:

What should I do? Buy the GTX 1080 when it releases(reference version)? or wait a while for the non reference cards such as MSI or G1 gaming?

i would never blow 600$+ on a reference card personally...

[i_build_nanosuits]

4 hours ago, FirstTimePC said:

My specs right now is a : Intel Core Duo

4GB of ddr2 800 MHz SDRAM

300 GB Hdd

Nvidia Geforce 9400m 256Mb

wow...so you need a brand new PC

[PianoPlayer88Key]

Just wondering, how good of a new build could we pcpartpick for him, for approximately the price of the founder's edition GTX 1080?  And could said build maybe include the reference 1070?  Or should we maybe leave the GPU off, suggesting he save a few hundred more (use the 9400 in the meantime) and get an aftermarket 1080 a little later?

[PianoPlayer88Key]

Okay, this is what I came up with so far.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($209.99 @ Micro Center) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.49 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($112.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($57.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($97.99 @ Adorama) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($67.49 @ Amazon) 
Total: $635.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-08 14:37 EDT-0400

 

Prices include shipping (and for Micro-Center, in-store pickup is used), but don't include tax (even though it says) or mail-in rebates, if any.

 

The video card isn't included, as the GTX 1080 isn't released yet.

 

I did meet my goal of having the build (not including the video card) be below the cost of the GTX 1080 founder's edition ... but I would have liked to shave a few hundred bucks off.

 

Is there a way to do that, while still having decent quality parts, overclockability, etc?  Should he drop the CPU to an i3-6100, switch to a 2.5" A-Data SP550 240GB SSD, go with just 8 GB RAM, and maybe the EVGA 430W or 500B PSU?  Or would those PSUs be questionable for handling the 1080?  (I definitely wouldn't trust a CX with one.)

 

Of course I have no idea what the OP's budget would be, I was just trying a build that's about the cost of the 1080.

 

Oh, also, I was hoping to pick a build for him that would last longer (as far as usability, etc) than his current build has.

[Simon771]

I don't know why should you wait for asus or MSI

They will make base OC, that you can do with reference version also.

 

And reference version can obe OCed to over 2000MHz and still run under 70°C. 

ASUS and MSI might be able to drop temps from 67°C on reference to like 62 or something.