i7 6700K Xeon Equivalent

[Guest]

So you know how we have the E3 1231 for the i7 4770, do we have a xeon for the 6700/6700K

[Enderman]

skylake xeons are not compatible on consumer motherboards

you need a special server motherboard to use xeons now

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

skylake xeons are not compatible on consumer motherboards

you need a special server motherboard to use xeons now

What about the 1231? I was looking at the E3 line, the consumer ones. I mean an equivalent. So it can be used in consumer pcs

What would you suggest for a xeon then? I was originally looking at the E3 1231 v3 because of it's 4770 equivalent, but now I'm after an equivalent to the 6700 with no iGPU

[Cereal5]

3 hours ago, jkeasley said:

What about the 1231? I was looking at the E3 line, the consumer ones. I mean an equivalent. So it can be used in consumer pcs

What would you suggest for a xeon then? I was originally looking at the E3 1231 v3 because of it's 4770 equivalent, but now I'm after an equivalent to the 6700 with no iGPU

the 1231 v3 will fit in a normal H87/H97 or any equivalent just fine afaik

[Guest]

Just now, Cereal5 said:

the 1231 v3 will fit in a normal H87/H97 or any equivalent just fine afaik

But is it as good as a 6700? Or is there even much of a difference?

[Cereal5]

3 hours ago, jkeasley said:

But is it as good as a 6700? Or is there even much of a difference?

No, it's not "as good as" a 6700(K). It's Haswell architecture with a 22nm dye. So it is as good as a 4770(K). The 6700(K) has typical improvements, maybe a slightly higher clock speed, and the typical 10ish% better performance. If you're not overclocking, get the 1231 v3. From what I've heard it's a great CPU and it has all the benefits of being a xeon without the price.

[NumLock21]

Skylake Xeon will only work on motherboards using the server chipsets. Some board makers knows, no one wants a ugly board in their beautiful rig, so they also made nice looking ones just for them Skylake Xeons. MSI has a Krait Edition just for it. As for Xeon equivalent, just look up ark and check out their clock speeds.

[Enderman]

31 minutes ago, jkeasley said:

What about the 1231? I was looking at the E3 line, the consumer ones. I mean an equivalent. So it can be used in consumer pcs

What would you suggest for a xeon then? I was originally looking at the E3 1231 v3 because of it's 4770 equivalent, but now I'm after an equivalent to the 6700 with no iGPU

the 1231v3 is the last xeon you can use

the 6700 equivalent is the 1230v5 which only works on special server motherboards

 

so at that point you may as well just buy a 6700k and and have a motherboard you can use in the future too

[Dinkleberg]

The Xeon E3 1230 V5 is the Xeon equivalent to the i7 6700, it's like $60 cheaper, supports ECC memory, is more (ever so slightly) more reliabe, but the motherboards are more expensive, especially if you're willing to go with an H110 board if you get the i7 6700, and the motherboard selection is a bit limited, on average 2-3 motherboards from each manufacturer that are targeted at people who want to get Xeons as a cheaper alternative to i7s. If you want my opinion, go with a 1230 V5, get the cheapest ASRock motherboard you can get that doesn't look like Mr Turner, get a Cryorig H7, search for an older BIOS that allows BCLK overclocking and OC your Xeon to i7 6700K levels while saving about $70.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Dinkleberg said:

The Xeon E3 1230 V5 is the Xeon equivalent to the i7 6700, it's like $60 cheaper, supports ECC memory, is more (ever so slightly) more reliabe, but the motherboards are more expensive, especially if you're willing to go with an H110 board if you get the i7 6700, and the motherboard selection is a bit limited, on average 2-3 motherboards from each manufacturer that are targeted at people who want to get Xeons as a cheaper alternative to i7s. If you want my opinion, go with a 1230 V5, get the cheapest ASRock motherboard you can get that doesn't look like Mr Turner, get a Cryorig H7, search for an older BIOS that allows BCLK overclocking and OC your Xeon to i7 6700K levels while saving about $70.

Something like this: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/wfrjt6

Seems pretty cheap...would it do well with gaming and rendering videos and other stuff like that?

[Dinkleberg]

In gaming applications, it'll do as slightly better than an i5 6500 in games that don't use all four cores and hyperthreading, in games that do use all four cores and HT, it'll do as well as an i7 4790K, BCLK overclock it and it'll do better than the 6600K and 6700K, respectively. In rendering and stuff like I think it'll do as slightly better than an i7 4790K due to the increase in IPC.

[typographie]

11 hours ago, jkeasley said:

Something like this: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/wfrjt6

Seems pretty cheap...would it do well with gaming and rendering videos and other stuff like that?

It seems to be a rebranded i7-6700, which is about $40 more than the E3-1230v5 on the Australian sites. However, the C232 boards listed on Australian PCPartpicker start at $190 AUD, whereas you could get an H110 board starting at $85. So by paying $40 more for the i7, you can save up to $100 or so on the motherboard.

 

To clarify what was said earlier: the E3-1231v3 is a Haswell chip, and the Haswell Xeons were compatible with consumer chipsets like Z97, H87, H81, etc. Skylake Xeons, on the other hand, are still compatible with the LGA-1151 socket but require the C232 or C236 chipset, and therefore Skylake Xeons do not share motherboard compatibility with Skylake i3/i5/i7's. At least in your case a C232 board adds quite a bit to the cost.

[GarnetDevil]

Intel Xeon E3 1230V5 is the equivalent of a 6700K (Now literally cause we can OC it, yay!)

 

But unlike Haswell, HR, 1230V5 requires server chipset (C236 and C232 AFAIK), but recently Asus, Gigabyte, Asrock and MSI have started manufacturing consumer board with C236 server chipset (including those with "gaming" brand), they are more expensive than H170 but still cheaper than the majority of Z170

 

 

[NumLock21]

15 hours ago, Enderman said:

the 1231v3 is the last xeon you can use

the 6700 equivalent is the 1230v5 which only works on special server motherboards

 

so at that point you may as well just buy a 6700k and and have a motherboard you can use in the future too

There is a server z170

 

[typographie]

4 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

There is a server z170

If there's a Z170 board marketed for server use, it would be incompatible with Skylake Xeons.

[NumLock21]

3 minutes ago, typographie said:

There might be a Z170 board marketed for server use, but it would be incompatible with Skylake Xeons.

I mean chipset features. I think its c236 is basically a z170.

[typographie]

1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

I mean chipset features. I think its c236 is basically a z170.

Probably, but a Skylake Xeon still requires C232 or C236 to be on the board. It may be an artificial lock, but it's still a lock. The feature sets don't change anything.

[GarnetDevil]

33 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

I mean chipset features. I think its c236 is basically a z170.

C236 consumer only support upto 2133MHz ram, and all of them doesn't support SLI

[NumLock21]

22 minutes ago, GarnetDevil said:

C236 consumer only support upto 2133MHz ram, and all of them doesn't support SLI

SLI depends on the whether motherboard manufacture wants to enable it or not. Asus Z10PE-D16 WS a dual socket Xeon board, that requires a server chipset supports SLI. The gigabyte X170 supports SLI since it's basically a Z170 with some differences, that's catered towards the business environment, but both of them have a total of 26 HSIO lanes. 6 are reserved so that leaves you with 20 lanes to go around.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5806#ov

 

50 minutes ago, typographie said:

Probably, but a Skylake Xeon still requires C232 or C236 to be on the board. It may be an artificial lock, but it's still a lock. The feature sets don't change anything.

Server chipset supports Xeon as well as consumer cpus. All they're missing is OC and XMP, unless board makers want to enable it. Maybe it is enable, just not mentioned.

[typographie]

2 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

SLI depends on the whether motherboard manufacture wants to enable it or not. Asus Z10PE-D16 WS a dual socket Xeon board, that requires a server chipset supports SLI. The gigabyte X170 supports SLI since it's basically a Z170 with some differences, that's catered towards the business environment, but both of them have a total of 26 HSIO lanes. 6 are reserved so that leaves you with 20 lanes to go around.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5806#ov

 

Server chipset supports Xeon as well as consumer cpus. All they're missing is OC and XMP, unless board makers want to enable it. Maybe it is enable, just not mentioned.

I think I may have lost track of the point… how does this affect the OP's options? C232 motherboards are still more expensive than H110/H170 boards, and I don't see much point in spending more when an i7-6700 + H110 will provide all the performance and functionality they're likely to need.

[NumLock21]

4 hours ago, typographie said:

I think I may have lost track of the point… how does this affect the OP's options? C232 motherboards are still more expensive than H110/H170 boards, and I don't see much point in spending more when an i7-6700 + H110 will provide all the performance and functionality they're likely to need.

OP wants to know if there was a Xeon equivalent to the 6700 and 6700K. There is no Xeon equivalent to the 6700K. 6700K runs at 4GHz boost to 4.2GHz. Highest Xeon 1280 v5, starts at 3.7GHz and boost up to 4GHz, but that cpu has a similar price tag to the $600+ 5930K.

Core i7 6700 runs at 3.4GHz and turbo boost up to 4GHz. The Xeon equivalent to that will be the 1230 v5. Runs at 3.4GHz and boost up to 3.8GHz, just 200Mhz shy of 4GHz. Next there is the 1240 and 1245 v5. Starts at 3.5GHz and boost up to 3.9GHz, which is close to that 4GHz turbo, that's on the Core i7 6700.

It seems OP is interested in a Xeon, cause they're like a Core i7 with the price of a Core i5. Skylake Xeons forces users to buy boards with server chipset. While they cost more, but they're almost no difference in terms of price.

cheap xeon cpu + more expensive board

expensive core i7 cpu + decent cheap motherboard

OP can go a Core i7 6700 and a cheap H110 board, but all H110 are limited to just 2 ram slots. H170's price is close to a Z170.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V5 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($252.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock E3V5 Performance Gaming/OC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $383.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-04 16:52 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper B7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($69.49 @ Newegg)
Total: $369.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-04 16:56 EDT-0400

By getting a Core i7 with a decent cheap board, OP saves $14 bucks.

C232 similar to B150

C236 similar to Z170

C232 supports RAID. B150 does not

6700K: 4GHz to 4.2GHz

1280 v5: 3.7GHz to 4GHz

6700: 3.4GHz to 4GHz

1245 v5 3.5GHz to 3.9GHz (has igpu)

1240 v5 3.5GHz to 3.9GHz

1230 v5 3.4GHz to 3.8GHz

 

 

[Guest]

12 hours ago, Dinkleberg said:

In gaming applications, it'll do as slightly better than an i5 6500 in games that don't use all four cores and hyperthreading, in games that do use all four cores and HT, it'll do as well as an i7 4790K, BCLK overclock it and it'll do better than the 6600K and 6700K, respectively. In rendering and stuff like I think it'll do as slightly better than an i7 4790K due to the increase in IPC.

1. I'm rendering videos, so I need the 4 cores, 4 threads

2. I'm not getting the 4790K because it is an i7, I want a Xeon to save money

3. I've decided to stick with the Xeon E3 1231 v3