Wait for Pascal?

[Chandres]

Hello, I'm gonna be building a new PC this June with a budget of 400$ for a GPU, should I wait for pascal?

[Aytex]

yes

[JPotze]

1 minute ago, Chandres said:

Hello, I'm gonna be building a new PC this June with a budget of 400$ for a GPU, should I wait for pascal?

If i am correct, computex or something is in june or juli. i bet my money on it that by then the new gpu will be announced. either you buy a new one or the 980's go on sale.

[Clonzoo]

Wait for Pascal yes, with every new generation of GPU's or CPU the previous generation always has quite the substational price drop meaning you will get more for your $400 budget.

[ChrisCross]

Just now, Chandres said:

Hello, I'm gonna be building a new PC this June with a budget of 400$ for a GPU, should I wait for pascal?

i wait. its a huge step from 28nm to 16nm

[UmaruChan]

Yes you should since you may find the older cards for a cheaper price then.Do not hurry to buy a new card there could be a fiasco like there was with the 970.

[ChrisCross]

Just now, UmaruChan said:

Yes you should since you may find the older cards for a cheaper price then.Do not hurry to buy a new card there could be a fiasco like there was with the 970.

to be honest as much as i like amd, it didnt change anything about the performance of the 970

[Rune]

Yes, wait for pascal.

[Delicieuxz]

Wait for AMD's Polaris, which indicators suggest could be better than Pascal.

[UmaruChan]

6 minutes ago, ChrisCross said:

to be honest as much as i like amd, it didnt change anything about the performance of the 970

Well yeah,but it was like Nvidia backstabbed everyone 

[ChrisCross]

Just now, UmaruChan said:

Well yeah,but it was like Nvidia backstabbed everyone 

really not the worst they have done when you look at the whole gameworks thing.

[Lethal Seraph]

Wait for Pascal just for the price drops on Maxwell GPUs.

[That Norwegian Guy]

You can wait, but I have my doubts it will be for Pascal

 

Unless Pascal is first to market and you're very impatient

[Thony]

You do it in June, thats when Pascal gets announced. 

 

Yes, wait for announcment of cards and prices and for your budget buy 1070 or look for discounted 980. In worst case scenario you will have to buy 970/r9 390

[TidaLWaveZ]

42 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

Wait for AMD's Polaris, which indicators suggest could be better than Pascal.

 

Is this just wishful thinking or did I miss something? I'm unaware of any confirmed specs or performance results for either Pascal or Polaris.

[Delicieuxz]

1 hour ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

 

Is this just wishful thinking or did I miss something? I'm unaware of any confirmed specs or performance results for either Pascal or Polaris.

It's speculation, based on:

 

- Understanding that Pascal is an improvement of the Maxwell process, while Polaris is entirely new

- Pascal being 16 nm, Polaris 14 nm

- Rumour that Nvidia hasn't improved its async compute

- Polaris will likely have better performance per watt and performance per die size

- AMD has been making talk of increasing its competitiveness in high-performance gaming

- HBM1 might be used on this summer's Polaris, compared to Nvidia's GDD45

 

These videos are a very thorough, interesting analysis of the subject:

 

 

 

 

It's speculation, with enough information to warrant waiting to see the result, IMO.

 

[SteveGrabowski0]

Polaris beating GP104 sounds crazy to me when AMD was marketing it as VR for the masses. Now when Vega comes out that might be the one to murder all competition, but Polaris at 232mm^2 isn't going to be that. I bet Polaris 10 ends up being their 480/480x and Polaris 11 their 470/470x. Polaris 10 will probably end up as really nice midrange cards but with a $400 budget you'll probably be right in GTX 1070 territory in the worst case. So yeah, wait for Pascal and Polaris, I can't imagine we won't get at least a paper launch at Computex in late May. The big price cuts we have been seeing on the 980 Ti make sense with the story that Nvidia has already stopped shipped the GTX 970/ 980 / 980 Ti.

[ivan134]

2 hours ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

 

Is this just wishful thinking or did I miss something? I'm unaware of any confirmed specs or performance results for either Pascal or Polaris.

I cant say anything for Pascal, but we at least know that one of the Polaris 10 chips performs like an r9 fury. AMD demoed a Polaris 10 card running the new Hitman at 1440p 60 fps. The R9 Fury does that.

[bgibbz]

i would wait for pascal soley becuase even if it is dissapointing in terms of power, it will lower the cost of last gen GPUs. When pascal drops, the 980ti could possibly get closer to your bugdet range even if the pascal isn't what you are looking for.

[UmaruChan]

3 hours ago, ChrisCross said:

really not the worst they have done when you look at the whole gameworks thing.

That + The dx12 implementation fiasco for maxwell.

[jett473]

3 hours ago, Chandres said:

Hello, I'm gonna be building a new PC this June with a budget of 400$ for a GPU, should I wait for pascal?

I read this wrong and thought OP was build a 400 dollar PC, and was considering pascal in their build.

[Scruffy90]

How long after the new chipset announcements do price drops usually occur?

[TidaLWaveZ]

3 hours ago, ivan134 said:

I cant say anything for Pascal, but we at least know that one of the Polaris 10 chips performs like an r9 fury. AMD demoed a Polaris 10 card running the new Hitman at 1440p 60 fps. The R9 Fury does that.

 

The closer we get the the actual release of the new gen cards, the more I feel like they are all gonna be extremely slight improvements over the current gen.  I mean come on, we're only like a month away from the supposed initial release and all we have is speculation, some mediocre numbers, and one bare shroud?  I feel like if either company had something that great this close to release, they'd at least have some teaser material to tout.

 

If Pascal/Polaris's best initial offering doesn't run Crysis 3 at 4K with the highest graphics settings 60+FPS, then Nvidia and AMD can both GTFO.

[ivan134]

4 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

 

The closer we get the the actual release of the new gen cards, the more I feel like they are all gonna be extremely slight improvements over the current gen.  I mean come on, we're only like a month away from the supposed initial release and all we have is speculation, some mediocre numbers, and one bare shroud?  I feel like if either company had something that great this close to release, they'd at least have some teaser material to tout.

 

If Pascal/Polaris's best initial offering doesn't run Crysis 3 at 4K with the highest graphics settings 60+FPS, then Nvidia and AMD can both GTFO.

I dont see how r9 fury performance for the price of a current 390 is bad.

[TidaLWaveZ]

14 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

I dont see how r9 fury performance for the price of a current 390 is bad.

 

I didn't say it was, I just have a sinking feeling that the new gen cards(let's say top of the line initial releases 1080/490) aren't going to be drastically better than what's available now.  Sure better performance/price is always welcome, but I really want to see the raw performance jump that should come with the architecture change.