6.0Ghz

[Cyrus Howbrook]

Hi,

 

I was just wondering (it may be really stupid) but if I put my 4790k in a normal motherboard, If I put a OC of 6Ghz on it, with like a aio liquid cooler, will it burn out?

 

Thank You wonderfull people of the forums <3

[DunePilot]

Maybe on a single core under liquid nitrogen for a screen shot... sound reasonable? Yeah... not to me either. 

[DunePilot]

Shoot for 4.5-4.9 and call it a day. 

[Rune]

It would probably turn itself off before any serious damage was done, but it would certainly not work, no.

[Coaxialgamer]

3 minutes ago, Cyrus Howbrook said:

Hi,

 

I was just wondering (it may be really stupid) but if I put my 4790k in a normal motherboard, If I put a OC of 6Ghz on it, with like a aio liquid cooler, will it burn out?

 

Thank You wonderfull people of the forums <3

No . Not with an aio

 

 

You need at least phase change for that if you are lucky , and ln2 otherwise.

[Nacho Marco Segui]

@Lays knows about this

[Enderman]

no, you will just get a black screen because its not stable

if you try to make it stable by putting 1.7v through it then it will either shut down from overheating or it will fry itself if it doesnt have time to shut down

[flibberdipper]

First off, pretty much any CPU you get will not really be able to hit 6GHz unless you go sub-zero and have a GOOD motherboard (at least a Maximus 7 Formula IMO). And even then, you would probably be pushing LUDICROUS amounts of voltage through it.

[kachel94]

19 minutes ago, Cyrus Howbrook said:

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Have you ever overclocked?

[-iSynthesis]

Forget it. I once tried it with my Athlon II, it wont burn out it will just crash and that's it.

[Dash Lambda]

That's in suicide run territory.

Of course, absolutely nothing would happen if you just set the multiplier to 60 and neglected voltage --The moment it ramps up, it'll crash. All you have to do is clear the CMOS.

[das affe]

Just now, Dash Lambda said:

That's in suicide run territory.

Of course, absolutely nothing would happen if you just set the multiplier to 60 and neglected voltage --The moment it ramps up, it'll crash. All you have to do is clear the CMOS.

if he did push up the voltage to lets say 1,5 or 1,6 would it instantly burn or would it last for an hour? never been over 1,37 or so to try gettin 4.8 on my old 2500k 

[Jumper118]

you could easy get that with task manager oc

[harrynowl]

It won't boot cause you need the temperature co-efficients to run that kind of clock on silicone.

[Dash Lambda]

6 minutes ago, das affe said:

if he did push up the voltage to lets say 1,5 or 1,6 would it instantly burn or would it last for an hour? never been over 1,37 or so to try gettin 4.8 on my old 2500k 

CPUs have pretty strict fail-safes that shut them off if they get too hot. There is such thing as a "death voltage" where if you pump above a certain voltage through a chip it just dies, but that varies a bit between chips. Silicon lottery~

I think 1.6 is pushing death voltage for 90%+ of 4790Ks...

 

EDIT: To clarify, I don't mean anything under death voltage is safe. Anything above 1.35 isn't really safe for Haswell, and anything above 1.4 is likely to shorten the life of the chip dramatically.

[das affe]

Just now, Dash Lambda said:

CPUs have pretty strict fail-safes that shut them off if they get too hot. There is such thing as a "death voltage" where if you pump above a certain voltage through a chip it just dies, but that varies a bit between chips. Silicon lottery~

I think 1.6 is pushing death voltage for 90%+ of 4790Ks...

thats what i thought. I think you could cool it so that it never gets hot but even if the voltage doesnt kill it instantly it will degrade the cpu over time which happened with my 2500k. gets hotter and takes more voltage to ran stable over time.

[Dash Lambda]

1 minute ago, das affe said:

thats what i thought. I think you could cool it so that it never gets hot but even if the voltage doesnt kill it instantly it will degrade the cpu over time which happened with my 2500k. gets hotter and takes more voltage to ran stable over time.

Electromigration will always happen, just faster if you push your hardware. Especially with these smaller and smaller process nodes we're getting where the voltage just gets more and more significant.

Sure, your 2500K is degrading, but that's a 3 year old chip. I wonder when the first wave of 6700Ks at comparable overclocks will hit that point...

[das affe]

28 minutes ago, Dash Lambda said:

Electromigration will always happen, just faster if you push your hardware. Especially with these smaller and smaller process nodes we're getting where the voltage just gets more and more significant.

Sure, your 2500K is degrading, but that's a 3 year old chip. I wonder when the first wave of 6700Ks at comparable overclocks will hit that point...

one can only dream...  but i'm over cpu overclocking. running a small xeon undervolted and pushing my 980. 

[Dash Lambda]

1 minute ago, das affe said:

one can only dream...  but i'm over cpu overclocking. running a small xeon undervolted and pushing my 980. 

I could never use a Xeon in my personal machine...

I mean, the performance gains from overclocking the CPU are marginal, sure, but I hate the number 3. I absolutely hate it. I haven't even bothered going through the whole overclocking gamut since changing my motherboard (yet), but I still set the multiplier to at least 4.2 so I can see a number I don't despise under load.

 

Similar thing with my 980ti. 1324 is an ugly-ass number, 1484 is great.

[das affe]

19 minutes ago, Dash Lambda said:

I could never use a Xeon in my personal machine...

I mean, the performance gains from overclocking the CPU are marginal, sure, but I hate the number 3. I absolutely hate it. I haven't even bothered going through the whole overclocking gamut since changing my motherboard (yet), but I still set the multiplier to at least 4.2 so I can see a number I don't despise under load.

 

Similar thing with my 980ti. 1324 is an ugly-ass number, 1484 is great.

oh i have a friend that has a very similar relationship to numbers.. just that he hates random numbers idk..... 
My gpu is running at frequencies you will not like - 1472 on core and effective 7406 on memory. 
Edit: is it just the 3 or uneven numbers? or nombers that can be devided by 3?

[Dash Lambda]

8 minutes ago, das affe said:

oh i have a friend that has a very similar relationship to numbers.. just that he hates random numbers idk..... 
My gpu is running at frequencies you will not like - 1472 on core and effective 7406 on memory. 
Edit: is it just the 3 or uneven numbers? or nombers that can be devided by 3?

I hate the primes 3 and 7, and I dislike most numbers that include them.

It's mostly because numbers usually have a certain color (Not like a savant, my colors aren't useful... Though math is my strong suit~): 3 has a really sickly disgusting yellow, and 7 has a pale, almost earthy orange/red/brown.

Powers of 2, however, are blue. Those of 4 and 8 are a lighter blue and sky blue, respectively. Even numbers containing mostly powers of 2 are a pleasant blue, ones where every digit is even and a majority are 8 or 4 are icy blue, those containing mostly 8 and 2 are nearer white, 0 always lowers the color temperature, etc...

6, even though it's a multiple of 3, is a sort of steel grey. 1 and 9 are black. 5 is dull orange, but not nearly as bad as 7.

 

2048 and 4096 are my favorite numbers. That's one of the reasons I like the Fury X, 4096 stream processors... I'm fine with 2816 CUDA cores though.

... 3072, though, is a terrible number. I do not like the Titan X.

[LittleCarrot]

3737

[harrynowl]

2 hours ago, tmcclelland455 said:

First off, pretty much any CPU you get will not really be able to hit 6GHz unless you go sub-zero and have a GOOD motherboard (at least a Maximus 7 Formula IMO). And even then, you would probably be pushing LUDICROUS amounts of voltage through it.

In fairness a CPU without a coldbug would do 6GHz at like 1.6V

 

my amds all do 6ghz on single stage phase easy (-40c). 8ghz is possible on most of those full pot ln2

 

The 4770K a friend of mine has has a -124c coldbug and still did 5.9 at 1.65V

[Coaxialgamer]

2 hours ago, das affe said:

if he did push up the voltage to lets say 1,5 or 1,6 would it instantly burn or would it last for an hour? never been over 1,37 or so to try gettin 4.8 on my old 2500k 

i actually ran my 3770k with 1.6V for a few minutes by accident once .  The cpu throttled when i hit it with a stress test  , and my old OC wasn't stable anymore (had to add 5mv )

[Lilithty]

*See's overclocking thread* 

Oh cool something about overclocking

*Sees the numbers*

aww hell naw