PS4 is 50% faster than the Xbox One

[threadysparrow]

What about The Last of Us?

TLOU pretty much looks like a next gen game and what Naughty Dog was able to accomplish with 512MB RAM and a 7 year old cell processor was amazing. IMO Sony can use popsicle sticks and make a structurally sound home.

[TopWargamer]

TLOU pretty much looks like a next gen game and what Naughty Dog was able to accomplish with 512MB RAM and a 7 year old cell processor was amazing. IMO Sony can use popsicle sticks and make a structurally sound home.

*256MB of RAM...just saying

[Vitalius]

What about The Last of Us?

TLOU pretty much looks like a next gen game and what Naughty Dog was able to accomplish with 512MB RAM and a 7 year old cell processor was amazing. IMO Sony can use popsicle sticks and make a structurally sound home.

This basically^

 

*256MB of RAM...just saying

Ha. 

The point is, The PS3 is better than the Xbox 360, graphically. It just took developers forever to learn how to make games like The Last of us and Beyond: Two Souls with it.

[DirkaFat]

This basically^

 

Ha. 

The point is, The PS3 is better than the Xbox 360, graphically. It just took developers forever to learn how to make games like The Last of us and Beyond: Two Souls with it.

I didn't find the graphics to be particularly... fantastic

[berna]

I really don't thank them for it the ps3 and xbox 360 had a good amount of power for games unlike this gen which will run for 10 years, We will end up being held back by console so much more by the end of the "next gens" life cycle

 

I know what are you saying, but developers will be always chained to the consoles, only the pc exclusives will have that freedom, but AAA games are 90% multiplatform, I believe that this 10 year cycle will not be equal to the last one, they have the stream technology, I hope on their 6/7 year they really kick that service and start using it the same way Nvidia Grid is and in that time consoles will be at the same level as pc in a way, and pc and console will start to blur the lines as a desktop and living room entertainment.

[JORDANonPC]

I know what are you saying, but developers will be always chained to the consoles, only the pc exclusives will have that freedom, but AAA games are 90% multiplatform, I believe that this 10 year cycle will not be equal to the last one, they have the stream technology, I hope on their 6/7 year they really kick that service and start using it the same way Nvidia Grid is and in that time consoles will be at the same level as pc in a way, and pc and console will start to blur the lines as a desktop and living room entertainment.

I think consoles are trying to be more like pc's every gen so I think they will blur in with pc's or die in the next 10 years could just be me being hopeful

[threadysparrow]

Hi everyone, my name is Patrick and I am a PS4 fanboy. (Hi Patrick) Can I tell you guys something in confidence?

 

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I plan on making my PS4 more than just a gaming console. I plan on using it for 3D Blu Rays an Netflix just as much as I use it for games if not more. I spend more time watching movies than playing games.

 

I will now yield to the flames

[berna]

I think consoles are trying to be more like pc's every gen so I think they will blur in with pc's or die in the next 10 years could just be me being hopeful

 

There is the public need to living room game entertainment, and the games for pc, even the OS is not optimized for it, maybe the future for Microsoft will stop making consoles hardware and just make an OS for a regular PC but its optimized to be controlled by a gamepad(ex: Windows 9 = desktops, Xbox OS=livingroom), and sony well or they get into the OS business or they are fked, maybe they join forces with google and do an android/psn OS.

 

Edit: Oh got the perfect idea for sony, team up with Valve, build a OS dedicated to living room gaming and GG.

[beebskadoo]

The PS3 was a bitch to develop for and is just now being used to it's full potential. If the Xbox ones Esram is a pain in the ass for devs, it won't be utilized properly. So the PS4 has so many advantages going for it. the devs that want to make a proper fantastic looking game will go with PS4 because MSoft ruins creativity.

[Xorbot]

Let's recap:

 

PS4 is 50% faster than Xbox One, and BF4 for PS4 runs only at 720p to achieve 60 FPS?

 

Would this mean that BF4 for Xbox One runs at 480p to achieve similar framerates? LOL

[totjup5]

What I see when console people fight over which one is more powerful:

[James_AJ]

So now even consoles are going to be held back by other consoles now

... holy shit, you're right!

[Kuzma]

Guess who's not looking forward to doing any kind of development for the xbone? ._.

[JORDANonPC]

There is the public need to living room game entertainment, and the games for pc, even the OS is not optimized for it, maybe the future for Microsoft will stop making consoles hardware and just make an OS for a regular PC but its optimized to be controlled by a gamepad(ex: Windows 9 = desktops, Xbox OS=livingroom), and sony well or they get into the OS business or they are fked, maybe they join forces with google and do an android/psn OS.

 

Edit: Oh got the perfect idea for sony, team up with Valve, build a OS dedicated to living room gaming and GG.

I think pc could potentially take it all and the choice be between htpcs and regular desktops and maybe steam big picture coming into it's own on htpcs

[orangecat]

My favorite part was "Ten years ago, you could argue that a console’s power was summed up in terms of a few of its specs, but Xbox One is designed as a powerful machine to deliver the best blockbuster games today and for the next decade. Xbox One architecture is much more complex than what any single figure can convey. It was designed with balanced performance in mind, and we think the games we continue to show running on near-final hardware demonstrate that performance. In the end, we’ll let the consoles and their games speak for themselves."

[xRAGExSounDxRIOTX]

Now I'm going to think of the consoles like AMD and NVidia, a game might be optimized for a certain company but the other company quickly comes out with a patch for that game to give it the max. FPS as smooth as possible, if you understand what I'm saying. I really don't believe that there will be that much of a performance gap between the two.

 

I do like some games on the PS4 but not enough of them to make pre-order a day one console like the Xbox One.

[FellTheSky]

putting slow memory's in a apu system

nice try guy

[eshbop]

The way the ESRAM works it might become more beneficial as the console ages, when optimizations are trying to squeak all the performance out of the system, though I find it strange they didn't just go with the GDDR5 solution.

 

This said I think you're going to find it hard to pick which looks better in a blind test, especially without comparing individual frames, I'm not sure you'll notice tangible improvements if you moved from playing game Y on the Xbone to the playing it on the PS4. Also, console gamers seem to have a wider tolerance to overall graphics quality and aren't as critical on "what would be considered sub-par PC resolutions, FPS and effects". Before I got a gaming PC I certainly put up with frame rates that I now couldn't deal with without really caring.

[Henry]

Since when did console users care about specs? lolol

I'm slowly watching them turn into PC users....JOIN THE DARK SIDE U CONSOLE PEOPLE!

[xRAGExSounDxRIOTX]

Since when did console users care about specs? lolol

I'm slowly watching them turn into PC users....JOIN THE DARK SIDE U CONSOLE PEOPLE!

I refuse to become a full PC gamer, I will not join the dark side.

[Kuzma]

I refuse to become a full PC gamer, I will not join the dark side.

Your sig says what?!

[Yoinkerman]

10 years ago the best pc graphics were like world of warcraft 1.0. The best graphics of today that an apu can power are like skyrim with decent textures and a bit of filtering.

10 years from now skyrim will look like daggerfall.

I don't want to play low textured unfiltered daggerfall

[LAwLz]

50% sounds a bit on the high side to me.

We already know what GPUs the Xbone and PS4 uses so it's fairly easy to figure out which is more powerful, and by how much.

 

PS4:

8 Jaguar cores at ~1.6GHz

1152 GPU cores (maximum shader throughput: 1.84TFLOPs)

8GB GDDR5 - 5500MHz (effective frequency) - 176GB/s bandwidth

 

Xbox One:

8 Jaguar cores at 1.75GHz.

768 GPU cores (maximum shader throughput: ~1.3TFLOPs)

8GB DDR3 - 2133MHz (effective frequency) - 68.3GB/s bandwidth

32MB of eSRAM for the GPU (102GB/s)

 

For shader throughput, the PS 4 is about 41% faster than the Xbone (and yes I took the recently announced overclock into consideration). The use of GDDR5 makes a ton of sense since it uses an APU, and that will greatly help for raw GPU horsepower, but it might have a small impact on general CPU tasks (since it has much higher latency).

The Xbone has some eSRAM but that's most likely just there to cover up for the lack of bandwidth for the GPU, not to give the Xbone an advantage over the PS4. It might make it so that the two systems are fairly comparable as far as memory bandwidth goes, but the PS4 most likely still have a slight edge.

 

So yeah, the PS4 destroys the Xbox One when it comes to GPU performance. 50% might be a bit of a stretch, but it is probably about 35-40% faster. The Xbone has a slightly more powerful CPU (probably) but it also has to run 3 OSes (Hypervisor, Xbox OS and some scaled down Windows 8 thing for apps) so that slightly faster CPU might be very busy handling all that, while the PS4 only has 1 OS to take care of.

The Xbox One will probably run a lot cooler though. Not only does it have a much smaller GPU to produce heat, the memory also uses a lot less power. Oh and the thing is huge so it probably has better cooling.

[silencerbob]

Let's recap:

PS4 is 50% faster than Xbox One, and BF4 for PS4 runs only at 720p to achieve 60 FPS?

Would this mean that BF4 for Xbox One runs at 480p to achieve similar framerates? LOL

Exactly dot dot dot

[silencerbob]

Sry double post