6700 vs 6600k vs 4790k

[kakhat]

so which should I choose 6700 is non k , I am not into overclocking and I love gaming also if 6700 I want to stick with stock cooler with 980 ti inside of nzxt h440

so what is your advice

 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, kakhat said:

so which should I choose 6700 is non k , I am not into overclocking and I love gaming also if 6700 I want to stick with stock cooler with 980 ti inside of nzxt h440

so what is your advice

 

6700...hands down. It's an i7 and it allows you to be a:

"Tab Fiend"

  - Linus Sebastian, 2015

[i_build_nanosuits]

if you are not going to overclock it then the 6700 gets my vote...if overclocking later to extend the useful life of your CPU is an option then my vote is to the 4790K which is the most powerful chip if you consider it's overclocking potential.

[aeroencychris]

Depends on your budget. If you're just gaming something like a 6500 (or 4460 if you're going haswell) will be fine. If you're doing a bit more (or have the money to spend) something like a 6700k would be a good choice as well.

[Big-G]

6700 should be fine if you don't plan on OC, stock cooler will be OK, but playing anything intensive for long periods can stress the CPU a bit, so I'd still recommend a fairly mid-range cooler just to ensure you don't experience thermal throttling.

[Mikeak172]

I don't think the 6700 comes with a cooler

[kakhat]

Just now, Mikeak172 said:

I don't think the 6700 comes with a cooler

it is non k so it comes with stock cooler

 

[Darkseth]

Yup it does. And not only that, the 6700 has only 65w TDP. And since its a newer architecture, it should be almost on par with an 4790k @ stock.

[xiej]

9 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

Yup it does. And not only that, the 6700 has only 65w TDP. And since its a newer architecture, it should be almost on par with an 4790k @ stock.

4790K beats it by just a little.

6700 - 3.4 GHz

4790K - 4.0 GHz

Skylake is about 5-20% faster than Devils Canyon.

3.4 *= 1.1 == 3.7 GHz Devils Canyon to match.

[Darkseth]

Dont forget, the 6700 might have a Base clock of 3.4, but the 4-Core-Turbo is 3,7 Ghz ^^

 

The 4790k should be 4,0 Ghz during 4-core-turbo

[xiej]

Just now, Darkseth said:

Dont forget, the 6700 might have a Base clock of 3.4, but the 4-Core-Turbo is 3,7 Ghz ^^

 

The 4790k should be 4,0 Ghz during 4-core-turbo

Turbo of 4790K is 4.4 for single core, the highest turbo speed indicaties how fast it will go while using only 1 core, so the 1-Core Turbo of the 6700 is 3.7 GHz.

Do Europeans use commas instead of decimal points?

[Big-G]

1 minute ago, xiej said:

Do Europeans use commas instead of decimal points?

Most metric countries do I reckon...

[Darkseth]

Um... idk, i use commas or points whatever i feel like (Since everyone knows what is meant ). But both should work.

 

sure? Everywhere i look, it says turbo max is 4.0 ghz (which would be 1 core) for the 6700. And 3.7 for 4 core

[xiej]

57 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

Um... idk, i use commas or points whatever i feel like (Since everyone knows what is meant ). But both should work.

 

sure? Everywhere i look, it says turbo max is 4.0 ghz (which would be 1 core) for the 6700. And 3.7 for 4 core

Umm... why would it run at a HIGHER clock speed when it is using MORE cores? It turbo boosts because it can withstand the heat with only 1 core at a higher clock speed. The 4.0 GHz is the base clock speed for the 4790K, and 3.4 is the base clock speed for the 6700. Base is the highest clock speed it can go to with all its cores.

[ThomasStolberg]

6700 non k for sure it run cooler and has simerler performance plus it cheaper

[Darkseth]

1 hour ago, xiej said:

Umm... why would it run at a HIGHER clock speed when it is using MORE cores? It turbo boosts because it can withstand the heat with only 1 core at a higher clock speed. The 4.0 GHz is the base clock speed for the 4790K, and 3.4 is the base clock speed for the 6700. Base is the highest clock speed it can go to with all its cores.

No, that's not true.

 

And it doesnt go higher with more Cores.

i7 6700:

1 Core: 4.0 Ghz

2 + 3 Cores: 3,8 Ghz

4 Cores: 3.7 Ghz

 

Base Clock of 3.4 Ghz means nothing pretty much. Only, if during Turbo the Temperature rises too high (whitch should be impossible if the cooling isnt Garbage), it would clock down. But as long Cooling is enough, the minimum Clock speed, the i7 6700 will EVER have, will be 3.7 Ghz (on 4 Cores). Of less Cores are used, then Higher.

 

With other Words: As long it doesnt overheat, the CPU will never have effective 3.4 Ghz, because 3.7 will be the Minimum during Load.

 

 

Edit: On the other hand, the 4790k: 1 Core Turbo is 4.4 Ghz, 4 Core Turhbo is 4.2 Ghz. so, effective, 500 Mhz difference if all 4 Cores are under Load.

So, even if those 500 Mhz are better, than the skylake architecture benefit, the 6700 will still have only 65w TDP, which is a WHOLE different Level to Cool, than 90-95w TDP of the i7 (i know it, i had the 65w i5 6600, and went over to the 91w 6700k. Temperatures were a different level)

[xiej]

23 hours ago, Darkseth said:

No, that's not true.

 

And it doesnt go higher with more Cores.

i7 6700:

1 Core: 4.0 Ghz

2 + 3 Cores: 3,8 Ghz

4 Cores: 3.7 Ghz

 

Base Clock of 3.4 Ghz means nothing pretty much. Only, if during Turbo the Temperature rises too high (whitch should be impossible if the cooling isnt Garbage), it would clock down. But as long Cooling is enough, the minimum Clock speed, the i7 6700 will EVER have, will be 3.7 Ghz (on 4 Cores). Of less Cores are used, then Higher.

 

With other Words: As long it doesnt overheat, the CPU will never have effective 3.4 Ghz, because 3.7 will be the Minimum during Load.

 

 

Edit: On the other hand, the 4790k: 1 Core Turbo is 4.4 Ghz, 4 Core Turhbo is 4.2 Ghz. so, effective, 500 Mhz difference if all 4 Cores are under Load.

So, even if those 500 Mhz are better, than the skylake architecture benefit, the 6700 will still have only 65w TDP, which is a WHOLE different Level to Cool, than 90-95w TDP of the i7 (i know it, i had the 65w i5 6600, and went over to the 91w 6700k. Temperatures were a different level)

 

 

[Darkseth]

Doesnt Change the Fact, that Base clock is NOT the Clock speed, that all 4 Cores have while beeing on Load.

 

I had an i5 6600, which has 3.3ghz (Turbo up to 3.9).

When using stress tests, like Prime, RealBench, Cinebench etc, ALL 4 Cores ran fulltime at 3,6 Ghz (which is the 4-core-turbo clock speed).

 

So this little part in Linus' Video is sadly Wrong. I've tried it myself.

[xiej]

1 minute ago, Darkseth said:

Doesnt Change the Fact, that Base clock is NOT the Clock speed, that all 4 Cores have while beeing on Load.

 

I had an i5 6600, which has 3.3ghz (Turbo up to 3.9).

When using stress tests, like Prime, RealBench, Cinebench etc, ALL 4 Cores ran fulltime at 3,6 Ghz (which is the 4-core-turbo clock speed).

 

So this little part in Linus' Video is sadly Wrong. I've tried it myself.

The 4-Core Turbo clock speed is 3.9 GHz

[Darkseth]

Its not, thats the 1-Core Turbo.  If you are Refering to i5 6600.

[xiej]

4 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

Its not, thats the 1-Core Turbo.  If you are Refering to i5 6600.

Oops, thats what I meant.

But the Base Clock Speed of your 6600 is 3.3 Ghz, so your chip cannot go to 3.6 Ghz with all 4 cores at max load.

[Darkseth]

2 hours ago, xiej said:

Oops, thats what I meant.

But the Base Clock Speed of your 6600 is 3.3 Ghz, so your chip cannot go to 3.6 Ghz with all 4 cores at max load.

It can, because 3.6 Ghz is the 4-Core-Turbo level.

 

That's why i was saying, the base clock doesnt matter, because the CPU will always run at 3.6 Ghz (in the i5 6600 case). Or more, if less than 4 Cores are used ^^

 

Idk why Intel put it this way, but my 6600 ran on 3.6 with all 4 Cores.

 

Intel has the all 4 Turbo-Stages for 1-4 Cores somewhere on their Site, but i just can not find it.... Sorry =(

 

[Big-G]

2 hours ago, xiej said:

Oops, thats what I meant.

But the Base Clock Speed of your 6600 is 3.3 Ghz, so your chip cannot go to 3.6 Ghz with all 4 cores at max load.

I recommend you go wiki it to edumecate yourself

[ybriK]

lol people thinking haswell and skylake have such big differences when it comes to gaming. Anyway 4460 > all you listed, price to performance period. But if you want to spend more cash for more "oomph", Xeon 1231 v3 4 cores 8 threads.